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malin1257's avatar - 8ball
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Posted: November 25, 2013, 12:06 pm - IP Logged

Stellar Idiots  Crazy

 Fate has placed "a spell"  on you for being mean and critical of the victim

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    Posted: November 25, 2013, 6:37 pm - IP Logged

    Since you are soooooo brillant and critical of the victims - Fate has placed "a spell on you". You will never win the lottery.    Just kidding.

    It doesn't take any brilliance to understand there are people buying lottery tickets every day that don't know what they are buying. My guess is after reading Karim and Nabil Jaghab scammed a 34-year-old man who doesn't speak English, you took it personal because you're an advocate against the English language and for the dummying down of America.

    Do you believe someone who doesn't speak English should get a pat on the back for being scammed after buying a lottery ticket he had no way of knowing if it won or not?

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      Posted: November 25, 2013, 6:50 pm - IP Logged

      I respectfully but wholeheartedly disagree. It would be one thing if an unlocked car was pilfered by a common thief. Another thing entirely if the unlocked car was pilfered by the guy paid to patrol the parking lot. People can't just open up shop and sell lottery tickets. They have to be licensed to do so. They are considered to have a certain amount of trustworthiness about them. Which is why when they pull stunts like this their licenses get revoked. Oftentimes permanently, because there is a betrayal of trust and the breaking of what having that license entails. It goes beyond the illegal activity of scamming a customer. 

      I consider a willing victim to be someone like Whitakker who left piles of money in his unlocked truck not once but twice and was outraged that he could actually get robbed like that twice...from the same place...outside a strip club.

      I respect your respectful disagreement. Thumbs Up

      But I don't think that your average 7-11 clerk or the sleazy nephew of a liquor store owner goes through any special screening or background check or bonding by the lottery to be a clerk at the store. I don't trust them any further than than I can throw them. Always be vigilant.

      I prefer to cash tickets at my regular store where I know the clerk/owner, or a big chain supermarket, etc.

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        Posted: November 25, 2013, 6:58 pm - IP Logged

        No NoYou tell'em Teddi. I have a nagging suspicion that some of these guys who blame the victim, have a very high propensity, to commit crimes, or have actually committed crimes before. Indeed, they are just looking for justification, no matter how fickle, to justify their previous or future criminal endeavours .  A crime is a crime morons...quit blaming the victim, one of these days, you or your loved ones will succumb to the nefarious activities of the criminally inclined, then you get a taste of your own medicine. You don't have to be dumb or stupid to be a crime victim, but you have to be both, to be a criminal, or a victim basher. Thumbs Down

        Whoa...so if people disagree with your opinion on this issue, they're a criminal? Nice. Thumbs Down

        If guess you didn't get my playful analogy with Gunnery Sgt.

        Basically, some people are good, some people are bad. Most are in the middle and can be swayed in either direction depending on the situation. Whether it's an unlocked footlocker, unlocked car, or giving a clerk a $1M ticket without knowing what it's worth, you are tempting the bad side of a person, tempting fate...participating in the temptation of your fellow man. Best to avoid that and not be a participant in evil temptation.

        I often turn in many tickets at a time, and a few times the clerk has credited me with too much. But I corrected them because I knew the value of my tickets and told them it was too much. They were really surprised and shocked that I actually was honest! I'm sure they don't get that every day.

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          Posted: November 25, 2013, 7:04 pm - IP Logged

          I could not agree more. I'm surprised at how many people are actually blaming the victim here for being scammed. Stands to reason that if he was an illegal citizen, he wouldn't have gone to the police and reported it. 

          It tells you something about these people when they tried to scam him not once, but twice. And it takes serious balls to then blame the 'mistake' on the machine, as if anyone is really going to believe they didn't know exactly what they were doing and how much the ticket was worth. If we even pretended that was true, they knew he won enough that he was supposed to have gone to the lottery office to get the money, they weren't supposed to have given him the cash for that amount. There's no way they are going to be able to explain that away. 

          How about we actually put the blame on the CROOKS (who are still lying and still trying to finagle their way out of the crime THEY commited) instead of the guy whose only fault seemed to have been initially assuming that they were honest people. There have been American, English-only speaking players who have been scammed like this too. Just because they weren't born the sharpest tool in the shed doesn't mean they deserve to get robbed.

          I Agree!

          Don't blame the victim, they didn't deserve that whether they speak English or not.

          I'm surprised that your surprised how many have blamed the victim lol  I'm not, there

          are some cold hearted people out there.

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            Posted: November 25, 2013, 11:11 pm - IP Logged

            I dont know what's sleazier....the people who said that they would pick up the money and keep it themselves....or the people who pick it up and kee it themselves and then lie on here and say they wouldnt...what is scarier is the ones who say they wont do it but when it happens all that trustworthyness goes out the window...I guess that is why on money itself we print IN GOD WE TRUST....period

            Thank you billionaire2bee.  Who u r is when no one is looking.

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              Posted: November 26, 2013, 12:11 am - IP Logged

              There are many ways to check and verify your tickets long before going to the store. Newspaper, online,poster boards in stores where they write the results.

              plus phoning the lottery hotline as well as its website where winning numbers are often posted as soon as the games are played!!!

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                Posted: November 26, 2013, 12:23 am - IP Logged

                We have members here who admitted in another thread that if somebody in line in front of them dropped a hundred dollar bill they would pick it up and keep it.

                So the sleaze factor isn't limited only to lottery clerks. We have crooks right here in our own ranks.

                No segment of society has a monopoly on virtue.

                I like to there are still good, decent, honest people in this world who won't stab me in the back the second I turn around or drop my guard.

                But the truth is, I don't really trust anybody that I don't know anymore.

                And that's a shame.

                Over four decades in a country where I originally grew up, I stumbled across a 10 shilling note. I do not know who dropped it. I went and bought ten lotto combinations and I ended up winning in some of them.

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                  Posted: November 26, 2013, 11:05 am - IP Logged

                  Greed makes people do some incredibly scummy things.Bash

                  Following the trends and patterns means following the money!Banana

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                    Posted: November 27, 2013, 12:27 am - IP Logged

                    Whatever happened to honesty, trust, dignity, and self respect?. Just because an individual{your customer for that matter}, cannot speak the language, or lacks the wherewithal to enable them to decipher the value of that particular instrument, is no reason for you to take advantage of the situation. What are you gonna do when you think that nobody is watching?. ONCE A THIEF, ALWAYS A THIEF. I hope they lock'em up and throw away the key. Dumba$$e$!!!.

                    I totally agree with you, be honest with people no matter what their circumstances may be.

                    Plus, you may be old and helpless someday... who will be honest with you then? Just a thought.

                    I'm no angel, I have done things I knew were wrong, hopefully I have learned better in my old age.

                    Remember, there is nothing wrong with doing the right thing for someone, no matter thge circumstances.

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                      Posted: November 27, 2013, 1:16 am - IP Logged

                      Over four decades in a country where I originally grew up, I stumbled across a 10 shilling note. I do not know who dropped it. I went and bought ten lotto combinations and I ended up winning in some of them.

                      That's different if you don't know who dropped it, to a degree.

                      But if you saw the person drop it and you take it and keep it...

                      Then you're a crook, no better than the lottery clerks who rip people off for their winnings

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                        Posted: November 27, 2013, 2:48 am - IP Logged

                        I have a similar story, a few months ago I bought a five or six scratch tickets right around the corner from where I live.

                        (I won $132 all together on four of the tickets).

                        I went back in to the store to get them cashed. The woman scanned the tickets, then told me:

                        You won $112.00     I said: No I didn't, I won $132.00

                        Then I rattled-off to her what each ticket was worth. Then she gave me some stupid lie about she forgot to scratch off the code on one. This was right after she scanned them with the machine. I think she just thought I was stupid or something. You scan the winning tickets and the machine tells you how much they are worth. I didn't bother to tell her I worked in a store before and know that you scan the ticket, and then the machine tells you how much it is worth. She apologised after I rattled off what I won on each ticket, once she scratched the $20.00

                        But to blattenly lie to me like she did amazed me. I know that if she tried to rip me off, that she probably has ripped others off also. I mean, to tell me that: "She didn't see" it was $20 winner because she forgot to scratch the code off?? Some people have nerve, and hope we are too stupid to know better. I let it go but I do not trust her now. I am just very careful and am aware of what I win on each ticket before I redeem them.

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                          Posted: December 21, 2013, 4:24 am - IP Logged

                          It is really hard to trust someone with money. There are so many greedy people who will take advantage of other people. So players should be very careful and check the worth of their tickets. I hope the winner will be able to claim his prize!


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                            Posted: December 21, 2013, 4:43 am - IP Logged

                            Over four decades in a country where I originally grew up, I stumbled across a 10 shilling note. I do not know who dropped it. I went and bought ten lotto combinations and I ended up winning in some of them.

                            Over four decades in a country where I originally grew up, I stumbled across a 10 shilling note. I do not know who dropped it. I went and bought ten lotto combinations and I ended up winning in some of them.

                             

                             My name is PATEL.

                            I found a ten pound note.

                             

                            I dont know who dropped it, but I went and bought ten lotto combinations and I ended up winning in some of them.

                            I spent 10 schill pounds and made 2 schill pounds. 

                            I must be fÜcking Jesus Christ!!!!Big Grin AngelEvil Looking

                             

                            P.S. Curt Shilling is a Pussi!!!  Bloody foot and all.  Sorry, dont know where that came from.

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                              Over four decades in a country where I originally grew up, I stumbled across a 10 shilling note. I do not know who dropped it. I went and bought ten lotto combinations and I ended up winning in some of them.

                               

                               My name is PATEL.

                              I found a ten pound note.

                               

                              I dont know who dropped it, but I went and bought ten lotto combinations and I ended up winning in some of them.

                              I spent 10 schill pounds and made 2 schill pounds. 

                              I must be fÜcking Jesus Christ!!!!Big Grin AngelEvil Looking

                               

                              P.S. Curt Shilling is a Pussi!!!  Bloody foot and all.  Sorry, dont know where that came from.

                              Some day you'll answer for the way you use the name of God.

                              To Him.