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Man found $1M lottery ticket while raking leaves

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Posted: December 28, 2013, 4:49 pm - IP Logged

Anyone read this and still doubt the existence of the Lottery Faerie?

Lep

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

Lep

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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    Posted: December 28, 2013, 5:10 pm - IP Logged

    I'd be interested to know if the lottery officials are in any way obligated to look into or investigate who really bought the ticket like they did in Iowa when that New York lawyer tried to claim a large prize there on the last day.

    I wonder if they looked at any video and if they did, would they be obligated to publicize the video to try to find the original buyer of the ticket?

    I'm not advocating for either side but "Bearer Instrument" seems to mean different things in different states.

    It's not like the guy who really brought the ticket lost a million dollars, he just lost a ticket which to him was only the cost of the ticket as most. 

    Players lose lottery tickets every day and never give them much thought or else they would check them as soon as possible after buying them. 

    Chances are if they checked where it was bought and published the information, hundreds of people would have come forward claiming they remember being in that store and buying a similar ticket probably more than the store actually sold and nobody could have claimed the money.

     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
       
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      Posted: December 28, 2013, 5:29 pm - IP Logged

      Anyone read this and still doubt the existence of the Lottery Faerie?

      Lep

      This is a snowflakes fairy. The lottery fairy is actually the back pocket of a store clerk.

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        Posted: December 28, 2013, 7:37 pm - IP Logged

        When it's YOUR TIME, it can show up ANYWHERE!!!  And to think that people frowned on the idea of my friends and I exploring TRASH CANS with GLOVES ON to find possible big winning tickets like the DUMPSTER DIVER did last year I think. I guess no one really believes in the SEEK AND YE SHALL FIND deal!! My buddy's son worked at a Shell station during that time, and before he left for a better job, he had found a total of $145 in winning tickets that were simply overlooked, misread, and tossed away. Call it what you want, but he came out ahead on the scratch-offs with no money spent whatsoever.

         

        L.L.

        Yep, it's a fact that lots of scratch ticket winners get thrown away.(in the trash or on the sidewalk) Mostly low tier prizes and small ticket value wins.

        Many people on LP admitted to have done it.(dumpster digging) I've seen it done, and know of people that play lottery only with free found money from thrown away Scratchers.

        But the game features that make it easy to throw away small winners also seems to be there for top prizes. It works out in favor of the lottery if people throw away winners: the game ends up being more profitable.

        Seems very likely with this NY Win for Life $2 scratch game, easy to misunderstand how it is won.

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          Posted: December 28, 2013, 8:20 pm - IP Logged

          Makes ya think twice about signing the back of your ticket as soon as you get it...... tickets get lost or stolen all the time but once it's signed you are the rightful owner of that ticket.

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            Posted: December 28, 2013, 10:21 pm - IP Logged

            Recently a player in the 5 million dollar scratch game in California found out only when he was rejected for the second chance draw.  The ticket was in his trash can for days prior to his second chance attempt.

            I know in California they have a scan code to check your own scratchers, to double check if they won.  Is it the same every where?

            I see alot of refrences to the clerks stealing.  I find it hard to beileve they can't see the clerk terminal checked the winning ticket.  They know when a terminal activates the pack and when they redeem winners.  I'm sure they know when a claim form ticket was checked.  I believe it can print something in California for the customer.

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              Posted: December 29, 2013, 12:47 am - IP Logged

              Hmmm..something doesn't add up here is what I'm thinking.

              2012 he was raking leaves? Is THAT what I read...then 2013 he turns in the ticket. 27 years old...a wet, dirty old ticket

              in the leaves on the job...he takes it home, dries it out and finds out it's worth a million dollars? I've seen wet dirty tickets

              in the parking lot of many places. I don't take them home to dry them off and see if they are winners, I assume they

              are there for a reason, they're losers and trash that didn't find its way to the trash can.

              The odds of finding a top prize are slim..but in a pile of leaves must be the absolute worst odds in the world -

              most likely worse than MM or PB odds.

              Off to read the story again...I must've missed something.

              246 ~~ 485 ~~ 369 ~~ 890 ~~ 705 ~~ 357 ~~ 129 ~~ 165 ~  007 ~ 225 ~ 818 ~ 440 ~  7775 5557

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                Posted: December 29, 2013, 12:56 am - IP Logged

                Recently a player in the 5 million dollar scratch game in California found out only when he was rejected for the second chance draw.  The ticket was in his trash can for days prior to his second chance attempt.

                I know in California they have a scan code to check your own scratchers, to double check if they won.  Is it the same every where?

                I see alot of refrences to the clerks stealing.  I find it hard to beileve they can't see the clerk terminal checked the winning ticket.  They know when a terminal activates the pack and when they redeem winners.  I'm sure they know when a claim form ticket was checked.  I believe it can print something in California for the customer.

                Ohio has something similar where the terminal will hollow out "WINNER" three times and if the clerks run the online ticket through the terminal it will print something on it too but all those features can be bypassed. 

                I once asked a manager while his clerks didn't use those features and he said they took too much time and he instructed his clerks to just flash the tickets in front of the scanner and tell the customers the results.  Now I only buy gas at his place and buy lottery tickets else where.

                Until clerks are totally removed from the routine of buying and checking lottery tickets, there will always be some slick crooked clerks thinking they can get away with steeling someones winning ticket.

                 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                   
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                  Posted: December 29, 2013, 1:20 am - IP Logged

                  Makes ya think twice about signing the back of your ticket as soon as you get it...... tickets get lost or stolen all the time but once it's signed you are the rightful owner of that ticket.

                  Could have worked out in this case where the actual purchaser would have got the one million dollars and he/she could have tipped the guy raking the leaves a couple of bucks for his troubles.

                   * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                     
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                    Posted: December 29, 2013, 1:41 am - IP Logged

                    Recently a player in the 5 million dollar scratch game in California found out only when he was rejected for the second chance draw.  The ticket was in his trash can for days prior to his second chance attempt.

                    I know in California they have a scan code to check your own scratchers, to double check if they won.  Is it the same every where?

                    I see alot of refrences to the clerks stealing.  I find it hard to beileve they can't see the clerk terminal checked the winning ticket.  They know when a terminal activates the pack and when they redeem winners.  I'm sure they know when a claim form ticket was checked.  I believe it can print something in California for the customer.

                    Are you a clerk?

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                      Posted: December 29, 2013, 5:47 am - IP Logged

                      Raking in the big money Cheers

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                        Posted: December 29, 2013, 5:50 am - IP Logged

                        Good point Ranger!

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                          Posted: December 29, 2013, 5:52 am - IP Logged

                          What a way to start the New Year, I'm happy for the guy!Smash

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                            Posted: December 29, 2013, 6:25 am - IP Logged

                            I am thinking the same thing.....his buddy is a store clerk and told the customer the ticket was not a winner.  The clerk kept the ticket and gave it to this man and both are laughing all the way to the bank . Sounds reasonable to me.

                            "...his buddy is a store clerk and told the customer the ticket was not a winner.  The clerk kept the ticket and gave it to this man..."

                            If the guy legitimately found the ticket in the leaves like he said, I'm glad for him.

                            But I just have a funny feeling that pick4master's scenario above is closer to the truth.

                            We really need to automate everything the clerks do.

                            It's just too doggone easy to ripoff a lot of people who aren't as aware of the risks with crooked clerks as we are.

                            I bet if we knew the true frequency of these crimes taking place and the amount of the money stolen it would be jaw-dropping. 

                            I had somebody try to pull one on me today.

                            I went to a drive-up window at a place I've never been before to cash a ticket and after the clerk ran the ticket, she came back and asked me what I thought I won. Heh,heh,heh,heh,heh... I wonder how many people fall for that line?

                            I said "I know what I won, what does the machine say?"

                            She looked somewhat taken aback and said "12 bucks."

                            I said "that's right" and stuck my hand out and she went back to the register and got my money.

                            You can imagine what would happen though if someone doesn't know what they won.

                            I don't trust a clerk any further than I can throw 'em.

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                              Posted: December 29, 2013, 8:19 am - IP Logged

                              I think the problem of less then honest clerks here in Indiana has been greatly reduced given hoosier lottery provides scanners in all stores for customers to scan their own tickets. I use it to double check my tickets before tossing them and to double check my winning tickets before turning them in. I think the clerks know the odds of a customer not knowing what their ticket is worth is very slim given. Since they put the scanners in place, i have not seen one person ask a clerk to check their ticket for them Thumbs Up