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Posted: May 17, 2014, 8:18 pm - IP Logged

I was wondering how the Patels upgraded their Taxis.

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    Posted: May 18, 2014, 7:36 am - IP Logged

    the state lotto is partly resposible, if after knowing some dodgey dealing is goibg on, refuse to prosecute and allow stores to continue,  thebn what are store owners to do??  they will here form store successfully   scamming players, ge4tting away and join the   fun.

    if ther state allowed a  store owner to continue 200+ thern prosecute on the4 next one? whos fault is that 201st   crime?

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      Posted: May 18, 2014, 9:29 am - IP Logged

      the state lotto is partly resposible, if after knowing some dodgey dealing is goibg on, refuse to prosecute and allow stores to continue,  thebn what are store owners to do??  they will here form store successfully   scamming players, ge4tting away and join the   fun.

      if ther state allowed a  store owner to continue 200+ thern prosecute on the4 next one? whos fault is that 201st   crime?

      Yep, their hands are definitely dirty. They want all that extra "revenue" from clerks/owners playing and are reluctant to give it up.

      And remember how all this started. Not from their own internal audit or the goodness of their heart, but by an investigative story by the Palm Beach Post. This is all a reaction to the negative publicity of that story. They can negate this in the future by allowing all winners to claim anonymously. That way the pesky nosey newspapers can't go around doing investigation and research and stir up trouble. Confused

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        Posted: May 18, 2014, 2:23 pm - IP Logged

        What I don't like about this story is how the FL Lottery and their auditors likely turned a blind eye to this entire situation for years.  The data is right there, staring them in the face.  It was only after the Post's article was published that their legislature demanded an investigation, and now suspensions and terminations are moving at a fast pace.

        My sentiments exactly!!

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          Posted: May 18, 2014, 6:17 pm - IP Logged

          Not surprised.  Last month, I had a female clerk at my favorite store jip me around $10 twice.  My sight is pretty bad so I figured I miscounted.  However, I felt something wrong.  So the last time I went in to cash out, she tried it again.  But this time I also had a friend verify and sure enough, she tried to short me $30 this time.  Glad there was a line of folk behind me as I called her out.  Of course she apologized over and over and promised she wasn't trying to jip me.  Not sure how true she was but I'm sure she'll think twice next time...

           

          I also noticed a ticket scan machine in the store a few days later.  Think I'll be using that more frequently.

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            Posted: May 18, 2014, 9:53 pm - IP Logged

            "The chances of winning any lottery prize worth $600 or more are remote. Only one in every 8,700 scratch-off tickets sold is worth that much, and the rate is far worse for online games such as Play 4.

            Mathematicians calculated that many of the top winners would have to spend millions to have a low chance of winning hundreds of thousands of dollars."

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            They seem to be telling people that they are wasting their time and money playing the lottery;

            That you would sooner get hit by lightning than make a regular profit playing any lottery games.

            That those very few people who make a regular profit must be doing it unlawfully.

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              Posted: May 19, 2014, 1:00 am - IP Logged

              This problem can be solved considerably by letting customers play online or on mobile phones like EU lotto tickets and cutting the middle man out.

              Winnings are deposited directly to customer's bank account and also customers never looses winnings due to a misplaced ticket.

              Minnesota is planning to have online scratch off games and then the idiots in legislature intervened and killed the idea.

              Give people want they want and politicians should stayout from meddling in profitable businesses.Let market sort out the goods and bads.

              I always prefer vending machines like in the wawa in newjersey over cashiers.only problem is that they wont give change.

              I wish they roll out vending machine that give out cash from lottery winnings like casino bill machines and I think the new generation vending machines will be like that.

              I know it may be difficult for older people to play online but as demographics changes the online option will be more desirable.

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                Posted: May 19, 2014, 11:13 am - IP Logged

                Data is meaningless without someone to read it.  I had a clerk steal 100 from me once - before I knew to check payouts, I knew I had 4 of 6 correct, but she told me I won $5.  After I cashed out it seemed low so I checked online and found it was 105.  Lesson learned.   I do think some of the self serve machines could provide payouts, if they redesigned them.   I love the self scan on the machines.  Clerks suck.

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                  Posted: May 19, 2014, 11:51 am - IP Logged

                  I mark the winning numbers on the ticket with an orange marker and calculate the payout before.

                  With a bigger win, I used to calculate the payout in Excel to know how much I won.

                  I suppose that some machines are not working properly. I hope for everybody that nobody worked on those machines!

                  When I don't see a payout when I expect one, I ask to check the ticket again or ask the ticket back. I suppose that some crooks just throw it immediately in a box with hundred tickets and say, sorry I can't help you anymore, when you asked to get back your ticket. I heard this once, he made me loose money and I let him go. He deserved a beating with wooden sticks, but who would hit an old man with thick glasses?

                  What?

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                    Posted: May 19, 2014, 2:14 pm - IP Logged

                    This can all be fixed by allowing people to claim prizes anonymously.

                    That way The Post would not have discovered this and The Lottery would not have investigate these anomalies.

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                      Posted: May 19, 2014, 2:18 pm - IP Logged

                      the state lotto is partly resposible, if after knowing some dodgey dealing is goibg on, refuse to prosecute and allow stores to continue,  thebn what are store owners to do??  they will here form store successfully   scamming players, ge4tting away and join the   fun.

                      if ther state allowed a  store owner to continue 200+ thern prosecute on the4 next one? whos fault is that 201st   crime?

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                      but, then D PB Post cums along & KICK'$ their BUTT'ssss^^^^>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>!!!!!

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                        Posted: May 20, 2014, 1:49 am - IP Logged

                        Pick 4 constituted a substantial portion of the "fraudulent" winners.

                        It's amazing how nobody working for the Florida state lottery figured out these store owners are buying winning tickets valued of $600 from players wanting to remain anonymous. It goes back to 2005 for some of these owners and if it's not legal and/or against lottery rules, they should have stopped it years ago.

                        Fort Pierce gas station owner Vipul Shukla has cashed in tickets 149 times, collecting $323,000, since 2006. He previously told The Post that he'd been cashing in tickets for others, but he had stopped.

                        The story isn't about telling players their $1000 winning tickets were worthless so which laws was broken?

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                          Posted: May 20, 2014, 9:27 am - IP Logged

                          If you don't scan your ticket yourself and are handing it over for the clerk to do it AND believe them

                          when they say:

                          SORRY NOT A WINNER...

                          chances are, some of those SORRY NOT A WINNER replies should have been:

                          CONGRATULATIONS!! Here's your claim form.

                          Why stay in your own country and suffer when you can come here and prosper?

                          I Was Ripped Off Years Ago By A Store Clerk Here In Galveston, Tx On A Scratch Off Way Before They Got The Ticket Scanners... I Knew I Had Won What I Thought Was 25.00 On A New Scratch Off Game That Had Just Began But The Clerk Said It Wasn't A Winner So I'm Assuming It Was Probably More Than That For Her To Want To Be A Thief... After I Left The Store Later That Night I Begin Thinking The Computer Makes 2 Different Sounds 1 Beep No Winner And Another Sound When You've Won And I Realized This After The Fact But I Couldn't Go Back And Get Crazy Bc That Was My Fault Now I Pay Very Close Attention To ALL Sounds And Scan My Ticket/Tickets Before I Hand It Over...I Won't Be Taken Like That Again... I'm Glad They Have Self Check Scanners Now...All In All Pay Attention To The Clerks Because They Are Crooks Atleast Some Of Them...

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                            Posted: May 20, 2014, 11:42 am - IP Logged

                            Something fishy is going on here, and not just with retailers. This happened to me YESTERDAY!!! I went into a store to check some old tickets i had from Megamillions March 14th draw. Scanned all 3 of my tickets myself and all said  "sorry not a winner". Normally i either throw them away after or have the retailer scan them on the machine just to verify. Well i did gave them to the cashier and the tickets would not scan properly so she punched in the codes and it said "not a winner". Still not sure why but i decided to keep my tickets. I JUST checked them like five minutes ago here on my computer and see that i actually won $15...(2 numbers + mega ball x multiplier).

                            I am soo F****** pissed. Not because this could have been a simple error, but because TWO different machines said "NOT A WINNER". Of course this is no big money but it counts. God knows how many times this has happened to not only me but to millions of other lotto players in the past without our knowledge.

                            "It's good to have money and the things that money can buy, but it's good, too, to check up once in a while and make sure that you haven't lost the things that money can't buy." - George Lorimer

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                              Posted: May 25, 2014, 11:07 am - IP Logged

                              What's up with these folks? Don't they realize they would be eventually caught? What?