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State lotteries head to Washington to enforce states' rights on gambling

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Posted: March 26, 2015, 7:30 am - IP Logged

Not a big fan of online gambling but the Federal Government is constantly pumping out new rules and regulations which really hamper our freedoms.

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    Posted: March 26, 2015, 11:27 am - IP Logged

    WOW. This bill is being sponsored by the representative from Utah. One of only two states that do not have legalized gambling. It sounds to me like this representative is trying to force his views about gambling on the rest of the country.

    Of course he's trying to force his views on everyone else. There are two types of politicians - those that think people need to be regulated and those that think businesses need to be regulated. There's a bit of overlap between the two, but the only thing they all have in common is taking care of themselves and thinking  that what they want is what's best for everyone else.

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      Posted: March 26, 2015, 6:05 pm - IP Logged

      Not a big fan of online gambling but the Federal Government is constantly pumping out new rules and regulations which really hamper our freedoms.

      Argue

      "Not a big fan of online gambling"

      Congressman Jason Chaffetz (R-UT-3) must not a big fan of Article IV (States Rights) of the U.S. Constitution and probably not Internet savvy either. Any state lottery can offer online wagering and limit the wagering to within its states borders, but Chaffetz wants no online gambling anywhere in the United States. Utah's neighbor Nevada has several legal online poker sites, but to play, they must either have a Nevada residence or be physically inside the state of Nevada.

      Do we really want people in other states deciding what is better for us?

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        Posted: March 26, 2015, 7:13 pm - IP Logged

        The federal restrictions on lotteries only encourages people to play foreign lotteries. It would be far more sensible to allow people to play legitimate state lotteries. It would keep the revenue in the US, but more importantly players would have a genuine chance of winning.

        We all get a lot out of lotteries!

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          Posted: March 26, 2015, 7:28 pm - IP Logged

          Gambling is a personal matter. This government intends to limit or restrict any or all personal rights, and dictate everything, period!!

           

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            Posted: March 26, 2015, 9:22 pm - IP Logged

            Id like to see someone try to stop from going across the line to play, I know Im not going to win in my state what do thy expect us to do.

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              Posted: March 27, 2015, 1:13 am - IP Logged

              https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr707

              https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/jason_chaffetz/412270

              He is from Utha where they don't have a state lottery, so he is not about to get into any trouble there.

              I guess that mormons don't play the lottery.

              Maybe they go to the Nevada casinos instead.

              The republicans don't want people to play the lottery online.

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                https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr707

                https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/jason_chaffetz/412270

                He is from Utha where they don't have a state lottery, so he is not about to get into any trouble there.

                I guess that mormons don't play the lottery.

                Maybe they go to the Nevada casinos instead.

                The republicans don't want people to play the lottery online.

                Mormons don't go to casinos, but it's OK for them to own them.

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                  Posted: March 27, 2015, 11:05 am - IP Logged

                  Momos (as they're called in Meridian, ID) trying to force themselves on the rest of us.  Wish President Obama would insruct the DOJ to ignore enforcing this archaic, anti-American law.

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                    Posted: March 27, 2015, 7:12 pm - IP Logged

                    The federal restrictions on lotteries only encourages people to play foreign lotteries. It would be far more sensible to allow people to play legitimate state lotteries. It would keep the revenue in the US, but more importantly players would have a genuine chance of winning.

                    There are no federal restrictions on state lotteries because the Fifth Court of Appeals ruled the Interstate Wire Act only applies to sports betting. That same ruling is why the Massachusetts Lottery can offer subscriptions.

                    "It would be far more sensible to allow people to play legitimate state lotteries."

                    The future is online lottery wagering, but it will be awhile before there will be interstate online lottery wagering because that does require state agreements and/or Federal legislation. Currently the rules for states with online wagering are the same as purchasing tickets at lottery retailers, players must be physically make ticket purchases within the state.

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                      Posted: March 28, 2015, 12:59 am - IP Logged

                      Anybody can throw numbers up on a screen and make it look good to the public,,,there is only about 4 big hits that hit this state a year,,as the screen says.

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                        Posted: March 29, 2015, 6:18 am - IP Logged

                        What role will the FCC have in this with their new passage on internet control?

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                          There are no federal restrictions on state lotteries because the Fifth Court of Appeals ruled the Interstate Wire Act only applies to sports betting. That same ruling is why the Massachusetts Lottery can offer subscriptions.

                          "It would be far more sensible to allow people to play legitimate state lotteries."

                          The future is online lottery wagering, but it will be awhile before there will be interstate online lottery wagering because that does require state agreements and/or Federal legislation. Currently the rules for states with online wagering are the same as purchasing tickets at lottery retailers, players must be physically make ticket purchases within the state.

                          I live in KY, but originally from MA.  You can only buy subscriptions for multi-state lotteries in that state,  no mail or phone calls.  I have a subscription for Mega Bucks Doubler from MA which I was able to purchase over the phone.  States like NY, VA and MD you have to have a physical address in those states to purchase subscriptions for multi-state lotteries.  Massachusetts does not have this restriction so when I ask my Brother to get my subscription when they're on sale he will.  Interesting if you get them during the sale period, you get a few weeks free!  So yes, this antiquated 1961 law (Federal) does indeed restrict sales over the phone, Internet or Mail.

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                            "Restoration of America's Wire Act" legislation would restrict your rights to spend your money as you please

                            State Lottery officials from across the United States held meetings with members of Congress today in Washington, D.C., to add their voices to those of state lawmakers advocating for the federal government to continue to support states' authority to establish their own gambling policies.

                            The lottery officials expressed their concerns about proposed federal legislation designed to restrict states' rights in regulating Internet gaming. House Resolution 707, introduced Feb. 4, would amend America's Wire Act by instituting strict regulations covering Internet gaming that could have serious consequences for state lotteries across the nation.

                            The bill is sponsored by Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT-3).  The latest action on the bill came on March 16th, when it was referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, and Investigations.

                            The full text of the bill can be found below in the Related Links section.

                            "While we understand the concerns many have about Internet gaming, states have a long and successful history of listening to their constituents and developing a regulated approach that's working," said Charlie McIntyre, Executive Director of the New Hampshire Lottery Commission. "Shifting that responsibility to the federal government is not only an infringement of states' rights, it's a bad policy decision."

                            State lottery directors met with elected leaders on both sides of the aisle to express their concerns about the unintended consequences of the proposed legislation.

                            Topping the list of those concerns is that under the proposal, expansion could continue of a dangerous and unregulated black market for Internet gaming that not only poses risks to children, but also leads to criminal activity. Lottery officials said that the legislation as it currently reads also will dramatically reduce revenues generated by voter-approved lotteries to fund important services like education, conservation and services for senior citizens to name a few.

                            "This bill creates far more problems than it actually addresses," says David Gale, Executive Director of NASPL. "The purpose of our visit is to ensure members of Congress understand the real problems this bill creates. The voters of each state should have a right to make this choice."

                            McIntyre commented that the proposed legislation forever puts lotteries at an extreme disadvantage moving forward and changes the ways in which lottery games are offered and played.

                            "The decision to offer games of chance within its own borders is that state's right to make, just as it is the right of Utah and Hawaii to make the decision not to have games of chance within their borders," says McIntyre.

                            No, the Federal Government don;t need any more new rule or regulations to steal any more freedom of choice from people. We are adults, here lately our government, as gone to far with their restricting adult activity. The don't give us credit, that we're wise enough to know what we really want to do. or credit to make our own decisions. Our Government, is inching closer to the line of no return. It seem to be head toward taking "FREE WILL" away. A right the Almighty give & not them. Enough is enough. I would like the Government, not to use Terrorism again {fear factor to keep the public in line}, it just another excuse to have your way. Keep the public eyes focused on that, so you can continue to do nothing about things you're send to do for the people. Our government must belief we all have blinders on. Plus no one can see but them. It really seems like our government has become control freaks, constantly crying about something they want. Never grateful for what it all ready blessed with. They're starting to look, spoil , greedy & out of control. If they don't get it , they are not above temp tandems, don't want work together. So, federal government , put your hands back in your own pockets go back to the drawing table and do better then these. We are adults. Now. tell me, beside more restrictions, as a adult, what have you done for us lately , that benefit the people only not you? They want a ruling on this legislation, it really sound like they want the right to be Rulers. We don.t need that.