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Payout situation getting worse for Illinois lottery winners

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Smoke Fan's avatar - stewart
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Posted: October 16, 2015, 12:21 pm - IP Logged

I live in Southeastern Illinois 10 miles west of Vincennes, IN.

No big deal to me if the Illinois lottery wants to commit fraud against it's players. I just cross the state line and play the Hoosier Lottery. And if I were to win, I would pack my rags and move to Indiana.

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    texas
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    Posted: October 16, 2015, 1:51 pm - IP Logged

    Now this is some bullsh*t.Every person in Illinois should stop playing the lottery immediately.Until the politicians get their sh*t together.

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      Posted: October 16, 2015, 2:14 pm - IP Logged

      Now this is some bullsh*t.Every person in Illinois should stop playing the lottery immediately.Until the politicians get their sh*t together.

      This sh*t has made national news.


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        Posted: October 16, 2015, 2:34 pm - IP Logged

        Anyone still playing the lottery in Illinois is an idiot at this point.

        A massive boycott would fix this.  If lottery money quit rolling in altogether for a few months, I'm sure the bumbling idiots in Springfield would be scrambling to figure out a way to pay winners in full.

        If you're in driving distance of MO, come play here.

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          Posted: October 16, 2015, 3:40 pm - IP Logged

          Looks like the scariest thing this Halloween is winning the Lootery in Illinoisss.

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            Posted: October 16, 2015, 4:48 pm - IP Logged

            Looks like the scariest thing this Halloween is winning the Lootery in Illinoisss.

            Scared

            but I could see that happening Green laugh

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              Posted: October 16, 2015, 7:56 pm - IP Logged

              Anyone still playing the lottery in Illinois is an idiot at this point.

              A massive boycott would fix this.  If lottery money quit rolling in altogether for a few months, I'm sure the bumbling idiots in Springfield would be scrambling to figure out a way to pay winners in full.

              If you're in driving distance of MO, come play here.

              I agree , IL players have to boycott.

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                Posted: October 16, 2015, 8:31 pm - IP Logged

                Inside Edition says that a lawyer says the non-payments now equal $288M

                http://news.yahoo.com/families-outraged-illinois-fails-pay-210047539.html

                Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

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                There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                  Posted: October 16, 2015, 10:12 pm - IP Logged

                  It is making the news on all the TV channels here in IL.  I for one went to WI this afternoon to buy my Mega Millions tickets there.  Purchased tickets for the next 8 drawings which will cover me until Nov 15.  After that, I will head back for another 8 drawings.  Illinois new name should be called  "The Titanic State."  It's not the Illinois Lottery that's doing this; its the Representatives in the State House.  By the time they agree on a budget, it will all ready be too late.  They will not have the funds to support it.  They cannot hear what the people are telling them as they all ready have their heads up their A##.... I certainly don't want to be a politician when the next election comes around......................

                  Sorry, but absolutely the lottery is partly to blame. I know of no successful business that has no deadline requirements. This is essentially a business enterprise handling millions of dollars which had nothing in its contract saying the state MUST pay out funds within a set period of time. They have a system set up to keep collecting funds no matter what financial upheaval the state is in, but that same system isn't set up to disburse the funds within a contractually designated timeframe. 

                  These are the very same people who tell you you better present your ticket within x months or we get to keep your money. You think they just overlooked the flipside to that?

                  Winners have to jump through very specific hoops to get access to that money, and Illinois can present them with an IOU instead?

                  And how is it they don't have the authority to stop the sale of tickets until funds can be released? Illinois can legally keep filling their coffers with lottery money and they don't have to pay out a dime until they feel like it. Who were the lottery attorneys who never thought to have contingent measures in place?

                  The state can ruin their brand (which they love to claim is very important to them and the reason winners identities have to be revealed) and they have no measures in place to make sure that would never have happened. Are they kidding? Oh yes, I most definitely think they have their share of blame in this.

                  I might wake up early and go running.  I might also wake up and win the lottery.

                  The odds are about the same.

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                    Posted: October 18, 2015, 12:19 am - IP Logged

                    So why are state officials still getting their paychecks?

                    Exactly. They should not get their paychecks if they're not doing their job.

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                      Posted: October 18, 2015, 1:50 am - IP Logged

                      Such BS.  State lottery funds are kept in separate accounts from general budget funds, because state officials know if the lottery refused to or couldn't pay out, players wouldn't play.  As they're seeing now, with Illinois players deciding to play in neighboring states.  Per an article I recently read, a state budget audit disclosed that the payout monies are there in their accounts.  For all intents & purposes, what state officials (including the Governor) are doing is holding state lottery winners hostage for political purposes, to exert pressure on others to agree to budget cuts/changes.  A lawsuit, which was just filed on behalf of state lottery winners, will itself be a winner in court, and will, more than likely, cost numerous politicians their careers.

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                        Posted: October 18, 2015, 1:15 pm - IP Logged

                        good post ^^^^

                        Rep. Franks HB4295 (releasing lottery funds) was referred to the rules committee.   

                        A new bill,  HB4316, (suspending lottery sales) unless funds for winnings are also appropriated, was just introduced.

                        I'll bet the lawsuit by winners awaiting payment gets action before either of those bills goes anywhere. 

                        [ I tried to post links to the actual bills, but as a new member, I'm not allowed to post links]

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                          Posted: October 18, 2015, 8:19 pm - IP Logged

                          Players should just boycott the Illinois lottery until the issue is resolved. Play other state lotteries, in some cases you may need an instate address to participate.

                          We all get a lot out of lotteries!

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                            Posted: October 18, 2015, 8:24 pm - IP Logged

                            I'm sure sales are down. When/where/how do they release numbers so we can see by how much?

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                              Posted: October 28, 2015, 9:49 am - IP Logged

                              Suspends lottery payouts for winners of $600 or more

                              Feeling like you've hit the jackpot through the Illinois Lottery? Well, think again. 

                              State officials announced Wednesday that winners who are due to receive more than $600 won't get their money until the state's ongoing budget impasse is resolved. Players who win up to $600 can still collect their winnings at local retailers.

                              In a statement, the Illinois Lottery said that its account for writing out checks to winners would be exhausted as of Thursday, and the agency does not have the legal authority to replenish its own funds. Officials say the legislature must authorize the state comptroller to release the funds.

                              Despite the payment delay, lottery officials have continued selling tickets. 

                              Last month, the Illinois comptroller's office announced that without a budget for the July 1 fiscal year, the agency didn't have the authority to write checks of more than $25,000 and payments would be delayed.

                              "Once a budget is passed in Springfield, all outstanding claims will be paid," according to the statement.

                              Two lottery winners have filed a federal lawsuit against the Illinois Lottery for stopping payouts of prizes above $25,000 because of the budget impasse. The lawsuit seeks to force the lottery to pay winners of more than $25,000 with 5 percent interest and asks that the lottery be barred from paying its administrative or operational costs until the winners receive their prizes. The lawsuit alleges dozens await more than $288 million in prizes.

                              "If I was the one selling raffle tickets and I didn't pay, I would be sued or in jail or both," Rhonda Rasche, one of the winners who filed the suit, said in a recent interview.

                              Tuesday's announcement came the same day state Comptroller Leslie Munger said the budget impasse means next month's $560 million payment to Illinois' pension system will be delayed. She said retirees will still receive benefit checks as scheduled. But the impasse has led to an immediate cash shortage, altering the way her office will dole out payments to the system.

                              Despite the budget impasse, money is still being allocated through state laws and consent decrees at last year's rates while less revenue is coming in.

                              Illinois unpaid lottery winners can get their tickets paid at WindyCityInvestments. Several winners have already received funds from this source.