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Iraqi's Oregon jackpot raises questions on lottery sales

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Posted: December 14, 2015, 1:39 pm - IP Logged

* Out of curiosity l took a gander at this Lotto site that sold the winning ticket to this man from Iraq and they " bragging" on their blog about their hand in his accomplishment. 

People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it- George Bernard Shaw.

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    Posted: December 14, 2015, 2:23 pm - IP Logged

    * Out of curiosity l took a gander at this Lotto site that sold the winning ticket to this man from Iraq and they " bragging" on their blog about their hand in his accomplishment. 

    What you call "bragging" is actually smart marketing.  If you owned such a business and managed to sell a jackpot-winning ticket, you would be an absolute fool to not be sure everyone knew about it.

     

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      Is Lottery Post owned from Canada or some other parts of the world?  If it is it would explains well about the Lotter and its supporters.   I cannot find it in the About or the Contact page.  Most US players bought the subscription from Lottery Post because it has the most information from US lotteries which is the biggest in the world and this is wonderful for people all over everywhere could use this and benefit from it is wonderful.  BUT I want the same right to extend to me if someone else can buy from the Lotter from the US - I should too, otherwise it should be BAN.   For those of you nut brains who can't understand that happy day for you for now.  Be warn Lotter you will not last if you think you can get away with something from the US without letting it's citizen in and snatch it to other That is Discrimination and Theft from its own people.   I don't care how you supporters word it otherwise just because someone wins big this time you think you will gain more customers from other parts of the world  -  YOU ARE DONE! 

       

      Yes I email Lotter, they informed me the US legislation would not allow it and I should write to my legislator,  I don't know who said the thing about bank transaction they are not from the US.  and is a Big fat liar!

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        What you call "bragging" is actually smart marketing.  If you owned such a business and managed to sell a jackpot-winning ticket, you would be an absolute fool to not be sure everyone knew about it.

        I Agree!.. l  posted that statement with tongue in cheek Todd. Your Usamega site does the same thing " asking the general public to credit that site" should it be used when a winner bags the jackpot. As you said " smart marketing. ."

        People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it- George Bernard Shaw.

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          @#$%^&*  I may even get BAN from Lottery Post after I posted all this stuff about the Lotter.  Will see Lottery Post is US based in and for its people!   will seeeeeeeeeee

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            @#$%^&*  I may even get BAN from Lottery Post after I posted all this stuff about the Lotter.  Will see Lottery Post is US based in and for its people!   will seeeeeeeeeee

            You are lucky you live in the US and can buy a lottery ticket for its regular price and don't have to pay a stranger 3X that price to do it for you.  You should be counting your blessings instead of complaining about the fortunes of the folks that have to do that.

            You probably don't play any of the Oregon lotteries so you couldn't have won anyway.

             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
               
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              Posted: December 14, 2015, 6:48 pm - IP Logged

              Is Lottery Post owned from Canada or some other parts of the world?  If it is it would explains well about the Lotter and its supporters.   I cannot find it in the About or the Contact page.  Most US players bought the subscription from Lottery Post because it has the most information from US lotteries which is the biggest in the world and this is wonderful for people all over everywhere could use this and benefit from it is wonderful.  BUT I want the same right to extend to me if someone else can buy from the Lotter from the US - I should too, otherwise it should be BAN.   For those of you nut brains who can't understand that happy day for you for now.  Be warn Lotter you will not last if you think you can get away with something from the US without letting it's citizen in and snatch it to other That is Discrimination and Theft from its own people.   I don't care how you supporters word it otherwise just because someone wins big this time you think you will gain more customers from other parts of the world  -  YOU ARE DONE! 

               

              Yes I email Lotter, they informed me the US legislation would not allow it and I should write to my legislator,  I don't know who said the thing about bank transaction they are not from the US.  and is a Big fat liar!

              Are you old enough, and do you have the means to play the lottery?. Are you still living in Mom's basement and never bothered with high school?. I only ask because your level of comprehension is highly suspect. You appear to be all over the place. ARE YOU OK?. This hysteria is sounding more and more like TOTAL BS.

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                Are you old enough, and do you have the means to play the lottery?. Are you still living in Mom's basement and never bothered with high school?. I only ask because your level of comprehension is highly suspect. You appear to be all over the place. ARE YOU OK?. This hysteria is sounding more and more like TOTAL BS.

                Got you annoyed huh Major?

                It is written " And forgive us our trespasses as we forgive them that trespass against us " Big Smile

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                  Got you annoyed huh Major?

                  It is written " And forgive us our trespasses as we forgive them that trespass against us " Big Smile

                  Go in Peace MPM.

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                    Posted: December 14, 2015, 11:34 pm - IP Logged

                    Wow!

                     

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                      PartyUS FlagPartyIt sucks that people from the U.S. can't buy EURO tickets  ...Not everything in the U.S. is perfect but you know what.....I'm so glad I was born,raised and still living here in this great country of the United States of America..

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                        Posted: December 16, 2015, 7:09 am - IP Logged

                        Sounds like sour grapes for alot of us, we can play so many things, he placed his money down

                        spent the wheel and hit the lotto, good for him, enjoy your life and good luck to you,

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                          Sounds like sour grapes for alot of us, we can play so many things, he placed his money down

                          spent the wheel and hit the lotto, good for him, enjoy your life and good luck to you,

                          Out of all the replies, this one hit the nail on the head.

                           

                          Nothing illegal was done plain and simple.  I am happy for him and his win regardless of where he calls home.

                           

                          Wish Congress would repeal parts of that antiquated 1961 forbidding lottery sales over the telephone, so naturally it carried onto electronic means of this day and age.  I see they just repealed a 40 year old law allowing the USA to export oil.  Honestly don't believe they know the implications or that this law even exists, it would be a good shot in the arm of lottery heavy states.  Also would help those folks in forbidden lottery states; AL, AK, HI, MS, NV and UT.

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                            So I guess if I win a big jackpot here in Oregon, I'll have to just sue the state to keep my name anonymous.

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                              I contacted the Attorney General's office here in Mass. in 2014 when I was thinking about signing up for thelotter. Here is a copy of our dialogue, I've substituted Mattapan for my name and AGO for the Paralegal's name. As you can see they weren't very helpful:

                               

                              From: Mattapan

                              To: AGO

                              Sent: June 13, 2014

                              subject: Online Lottery Concierge Services

                              Hello AGO,
                              I am writing to find out the legality of online butler services. There are websites like "thelotter" and "" who advertise that when you sign up and deposit money into your account that is registered on their site, they will then purchase lottery tickets for you in various locations. For example they advertise that they will buy a lottery ticket for you in Brazil, and in europe for the euromillions. My question is whether or not these types of services are legal for united states citizens to play? Is it legal for dominicans who are residents here to play? Thank you,
                              Mattapan

                               

                              -----Original Message-----
                              From: (AGO) (AGO) <XXXXXXXX@ Mass Mail. State .MA.US>
                              To: Mattapan.
                              Cc: XXXXXX (AGO) (AGO) <Supervisor@ state. ma. us>
                              Sent: Tue, Jun 24, 2014 9:59 am
                              Subject: Online Lottery Concierge Services

                              Hello Mattapan

                              Thank you very much for your inquiry to the Attorney General’s Office. Your email was forwarded to me for response. In response to your inquiry, I would like to direct you to Massachusetts G.L. c. 271, specifically sections 9 and 11, which I have attached to this email. Please take a look at this law, specifically sections 9 and 11, because it may well be that once you familiarize yourself with this law, the answer to your question may be apparent. If you have any more questions, please do not hesitate to contact myself or the chief of the Gaming Enforcement Division Patrick Hanley at 617-963-2512.

                              Thank you

                               

                              AGO

                              Paralegal

                              Gaming Enforcement Division

                              Office of the Attorney General

                              One Ashburton Place

                              Boston, MA 02108

                              617-XXX-XXXX

                               

                              From: Mattapan
                              Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 11:21 AM
                              To: (AGO)
                              Subject: Re: Online Lottery Concierge Services

                              Hello AGO

                              Thank you for the information. According to the laws, it looks like the companies are legit. The laws address companies selling lottery tickets, these companies aren't selling anything. They are just buying the tickets for you, that is the difference. Thanks again,

                              Mattapan

                               

                              -----Original Message-----
                              From:  (AGO) (AGO) <XXXXXXXX@ MassMail. State. MA .US>
                              To:Mattapan
                              Cc:  (AGO) (AGO) <Supervisor@ state .ma. us>
                              Sent: Wed, Jun 25, 2014 10:30 am
                              Subject: RE: Online Lottery Concierge Services

                              Hello Mattapan,

                              In response to your explanation, the Office of the Attorney General’s interpretation of these laws differs from the interpretation you have provided. Again, please contact myself or the chief of the Gaming Enforcement Division Patrick Hanley if you have any further questions.

                              Thank you

                              AGO

                               

                              From: Mattapan 
                              Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 10:35 AM
                              To:  (AGO)
                              Subject: Re: Online Lottery Concierge Services

                              Hello AGO,

                              Ok, can you give me the AG's interpretation of these laws, please. Is it legal for a company to purchase tickets for someone in another state or country? I.E. I live in Boston and a company will purchase euromillions tickets for me in France, is this legal? Thanks

                              Mattapan

                               

                              -----Original Message-----
                              From: AGO>
                              To: Mattapan>
                              Cc: XXXXXX (AGO) (AGO) <AGO supervisor>
                              Sent: Wed, Jun 25, 2014 11:47 am
                              Subject: RE: Online Lottery Concierge Services

                              HelloMattapan

                              I have given as much information to you as I can. I would advise that you consult a private attorney about your question because I cannot give you legal advice.

                              Thank you

                              AGO

                              Paralegal

                              Gaming Enforcement Division

                              Office of the Attorney General

                              One Ashburton Place

                              Boston, MA 02108

                              617-XXX-XXXX

                               

                              From: Mattapan
                              Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:03 PM
                              To:  (AGO)
                              Subject: Re: Online Lottery Concierge Services

                              Hello AGO,

                              Thank you for your help with answering my question about Online Concierge services. My other question is this. I know US citizens are barred from playing lotteries in foreign countries online, but would the same law apply to someone who is a Dominican citizen and is a permanent resident here in the United States? Thank you

                              Mattapan

                               

                              Hello Mattapan,

                              Your inquiry seems to be more of a question of federal law. I recommend you consult federal law on this matter or speak with a private attorney.

                              Thank you

                              AGO

                              Paralegal

                              Gaming Enforcement Division

                              Office of the Attorney General

                              One Ashburton Place

                              Boston, MA 02108

                              617-XXX-XXXX