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Posted: January 16, 2016, 10:11 pm - IP Logged

These people were STUPID to go public in the manner that they did, and their ego-centric attorney [Joe Townsend] and his publicity hungry daughter Eileen Townsend, who is a Memphis Art Scene reporter [Duh !!], should be slapped and fired for giving such BAD ADVICE !!!  Pay the attorney ASAP and kick him to the curb, b/c he probably intends to milk them dry of their MONEY $$$ in any clever manner that he can figure out how to !!!  The attorney, Joe Townsend,  specializes in BANKRUPTCY and DIVORCE, which is exactly what John and Lisa Robinson will need, eventually !!!

The attorney, Joe Townsend,  specializes in BANKRUPTCY and DIVORCE, which is exactly what John and Lisa Robinson will need, eventually !!!

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    Posted: January 16, 2016, 10:26 pm - IP Logged

    That attorney needs to be fired!

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      My mother and father in law live in Munford and my parents use to live there too and so did I. I live very close to Munford and from what I have heard the Townsend's are a shady family. I think one of them own a used car lot in Millington. Looking forward to seeing if they will help the little city in Munford. Me and my husband were married in Munford,TN in 2006.

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        Posted: January 16, 2016, 11:39 pm - IP Logged

        I wish the winners the best of luck!

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          Posted: January 16, 2016, 11:43 pm - IP Logged

          "Tennessee Lottery rules also permit jackpots to be claimed in the name of a trust for more privacy."

           

          The  Tennessee Lottery doesn't have an information on claiming in the name of a trust.

           

          Can the winner of a large Lottery prize remain anonymous?

          It is the policy of the Tennessee Lottery to treat such information as a public record. The Lottery will therefore disclose the name, home state and home town of winners if a request is received for such information.

          Tennessee Lottery FAQ

          We all get a lot out of lotteries!

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            Posted: January 17, 2016, 12:19 am - IP Logged

            These folks are not playing with a full deck of cards.  Their actions have created the conditions for something bad to happen.  It was wreckless for them to start off on the path they've chosen.  A thumbs down on this one....

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              Posted: January 17, 2016, 1:23 am - IP Logged

               Can anyone spell STUPID?   They are going to live in the same house, go to the same job, shop at the same stores??  Oh geez!! 

              They showed a picture of their house on National TV!!!!!    Now if I were a crazy person don't you think I would bee line to that house and kidnap one of them for ransom?   

              Why work at the same job with winnings like that ? 

              Why did they even bother to play that dang lottery if they weren't going to ENJOY life?   

              Maybe they are still in shock?   Or just plain stupid!

              When I win,  I am going to wear a wig, body padding, high platform heels and so much makeup even my mother wouldn't know me.   Oh, a Clown outfit!!  They never said you have to show your real face!   That's it!!!   So if you see a Clown on TV accepting the winnings ..... it ain't me!   Why would I wan't anyone to know my outfit?   LOL!!!!

              It's said that God looks over fools.

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                Posted: January 17, 2016, 1:30 am - IP Logged

                Yet they were fine. Who cares what others question is not their business. Most are fine unless they had issues before winning or were just really stupid afterwards. Plus no one knew he had the ticket on him anyway and it was signed. All the bad instances are also in the minority the majority have no issues usually. They also got the media done with and now the focus is on wo else won. The world doesn't stop because someone won the lottery, most people move on and forget them in a week or less.  Here is the press conference. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/powerball-winners-tennessee-identified-john-robinson-lisa-robinson/

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                   I wish them all the luck and wisdom in the future.  im beginning to see its non of our business.  or anyones, except to have a laugh and point.

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                    Notorious lottery winner Mickey Carroll today has a word of advice for the couple who landed £33million in Britain’s biggest jackpot.

                    Emigrate.

                    And he reckons if they don’t do what he says, then the size of David and Carol Martin’s win could put their family at risk.

                    The ex-binman became known as the “Lotto lout” after scooping £9.7m when he was just 19.

                    Carroll was wearing an electronic tag when he bought a lucky dip ticket in November 2002.

                    He went on a spending spree on cocaine, gambling and hookers that nearly killed him.

                    We all get a lot out of lotteries!

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                      Posted: January 17, 2016, 2:27 am - IP Logged

                      Yea. this might be why all of this happened.  An attorney who really knows nothing about how to handle this, giving advise and getting paid for it. 

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                        Yet they were fine. Who cares what others question is not their business. Most are fine unless they had issues before winning or were just really stupid afterwards. Plus no one knew he had the ticket on him anyway and it was signed. All the bad instances are also in the minority the majority have no issues usually. They also got the media done with and now the focus is on wo else won. The world doesn't stop because someone won the lottery, most people move on and forget them in a week or less.  Here is the press conference. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/powerball-winners-tennessee-identified-john-robinson-lisa-robinson/

                        You can see him hold up 4 fingers in the security camera video for 4 QP's lol. He asked the lady if should would share and she said sure, now the question is will HE share? LOL

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                          California and Florida winners should learn from mistakes made by Tennessee winners

                          Godspeed, John and Lisa Robinson of Munford, Tenn. 

                          The 50-somethings may have been Average Joes a day ago, but not after Friday morning when they revealed themselves on national television as big time winners in this week's record-breaking lottery.

                          The Robinsons' decision to fly to New York City to appear on NBC's "Today" show several hours before claiming their stake in the Powerball jackpot left some lottery veterans uneasy about the couple's exposure.

                          "It's a good example of what not to do," said Jason Kurland, a New York attorney who has represented several jackpot winners.

                          "I definitely would not have recommended that — very ill-advised for a number of reasons," Karen Gerstner, a Houston attorney who has worked with 48 lottery winners, said in an email. "Now, every long-lost relative and friend will approach them with a sob story, asking for money, and all the 'financial crooks' will come after them."

                          The Robinsons, along with their adult daughter, Tiffany Robinson, and Memphis attorney Joe Townsend and his daughter, Eileen Townsend, appeared on the morning news show where John Robinson pulled a folded lottery ticket from his shirt pocket and told a national TV audience that he was one of three winners of Wednesday's world-record $1.6 billion Powerball jackpot.

                          "Shocking," said Danielle Mayoras, a Michigan estate planning attorney and co-author of the bookTrial & Heirs. "Putting it out there on the 'Today' show before you even make the claim, before you even get everything in order, was extremely surprising. It really put the lottery ticket as well as the family at risk."

                          To collect their riches — a lump sum of nearly $328 million after taxes — the Robinsons needed to go the lottery office in Nashville, which they did after leaving New York.

                          "Flying back and forth to New York when you have to submit the ticket and make the claim in Tennessee may not be the best idea," Mayoras told Yahoo News. "Whether you're carrying around a Powerball-winning ticket or not, we all know when you go to a big city there's things that can happen. People lose things, and traveling and everything else."

                          "Today" anchor Savannah Guthrie even seemed surprised by the Robinsons' desire to make a big splash.

                          "Why, though, did you decide not to go to the lottery officials yet and come to us first?" Guthrie asked during the interview.

                          "Well actually, it was his idea," replied John Robinson, pointing to his attorney, who was standing behind him.

                          Townsend, a longtime Memphis bankruptcy and divorce lawyer, explained how he enlisted his daughter, a local writer who covers the Memphis arts scene, to call NBC and get them on the "Today" show. Eileen Townsend described how she Google-searched NBC's phone number and talked her way past the switchboard.

                          "They were rightly a little bit suspicious," Eileen said. "We talked through it and decided to make it happen."

                          Townsend, wearing a suit and bright orange tie, said the Manhattan media appearance only 33 hours after the lottery drawing was his way of trying to control the Robinsons' story.

                          "I think the American public wants to hear from them," Townsend said on the show. "Even though they want to be private after this is over, they want to, you know, let the public know that they're the winners."

                          But the publicity plan appears to have backfired somewhat. Reporters raced to Munford, a bedroom community of 6,000 north of Memphis, to interview the Robinsons' friends and family.

                          Neighbor Mary Sue Smith told the Memphis Commerical Appeal that Lisa Robinson, 53, had called after stepping off the "Today" set to request a favor.

                          "They were asking us to put up some 'No trespassing' signs in their yard," Smith said.

                          Within hours, a handful of people had shared a 2014 family photo from Lisa Robinson's Facebook page.

                          "This is the family in Munford that won the Power Ball Jackpot," a woman in Mississippi wrote on Facebook. "CONGRATS TO YOU."

                          The City of Munford also celebrated the Robinsons' windfall with a number of posts on its Facebook page. While most residents congratulated the family, a few couldn't resist the opportunity to offer suggestions.

                          "So happy for you," one woman wrote in a comment. "Sorry, can't help myself — please remember Tipton County Animal Shelter can always use a helping hand. Many wonderful furbabies there."

                          Kurland, who has represented winners of $254 million and $336 million Powerball jackpots, said he advises his clients to scrub their social media accounts and have a plan to disappear for several days once they claim their fortunes. But John Robinson, a warehouse supervisor, and Lisa Robinson, who works at a doctor's office, both said they planned to be at their jobs Monday morning.

                          "The rest of your life, people are going to be looking for handouts and asking questions and trying to hit you up for charities and investment opportunities," Kurland told Yahoo News. "I think it's going to hit them hard when they realize how famous, at least for 15 minutes, they've now become, when they could have controlled that a little bit more."

                          The Robinsons, who made it back to Tennessee to submit their winning ticket Friday afternoon, could have taken up to six months to redeem their prize. Tennessee Lottery rules also permit jackpots to be claimed in the name of a trust for more privacy.

                          "The short time between the day you win and the day you claim is your last chance at any normalcy," said Kurland, who offers a checklist of first steps on TheLotteryLawyer.com. "So you're better off sitting back and thinking about what you want to do, how to properly effectuate your estate planning, rather than parading around on the 'Today' show."

                          At a press conference Friday afternoon in Nashville, John Robinson, a warehouse supervisor, and his wife, who works at a doctor's office, said they hoped the family could now enjoy their good fortune in peace.

                          "We're common people," John, 58, said. "We're just like y'all are."

                          "... and ask that our privacy is respected," Lisa added.

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                          With large prize money, there should be a cooling-off period before winners receive the money. When players win such large amounts, in all the excitement, they can make rash decisions. How about a three month cooling-off period for prizes over 500,000?

                          We all get a lot out of lotteries!

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                            I'm changing how many lines I play and my numbers. I'm going to reduce my 10 lines down to 2 lines. I will play the same numbers in both MM and PB. Had a thought yesterday. What if my MM numbers come up in PB and vice versa? I'd be pissed!  I will also start adding the multiplier. I'm going to get a 20 draw ticket. If this run goes back up to a billion, I'll already be in the pot.

                            May the balls bounce in your favor!

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                              Wheww alot of dumb in this story. I agree with other posters, why would an attorney encourage a public announcement of winning. Why would you listen to that? Herd mentally in action folks. I win any size jackpot im gonna try every possible way to remain anonymous, or at least just keep it limited to the lottery website. They just put a big  flashing bullseye on their back.
                              Money can't buy common sense.

                                 
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