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Lottery veterans question Tennessee family's behavior before claiming Powerball winnings

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travelintrucker's avatar - morph
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Posted: January 17, 2016, 2:48 am - IP Logged

I watched the recent lottery special. She spent $200,000 on hand bags alone! 2 Bentleys worth $400,000. She didn't even want to mention how much she spent on art. What was up with the gold chair?! No wonder she's broke. All of that money would have been better spent by getting educated in finance and economics to help with investing.

May the balls bounce in your favor!

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    Posted: January 17, 2016, 3:19 am - IP Logged

    "Tennessee Lottery rules also permit jackpots to be claimed in the name of a trust for more privacy."

     

    The  Tennessee Lottery doesn't have an information on claiming in the name of a trust.

     

    Can the winner of a large Lottery prize remain anonymous?

    It is the policy of the Tennessee Lottery to treat such information as a public record. The Lottery will therefore disclose the name, home state and home town of winners if a request is received for such information.

    Tennessee Lottery FAQ

    Myturn it's people like you that drive me certifiably nuts. You're so easily tricked and can't read between the lines.

    Also, why is someone in Australia talking about my own state lottery as if they know it better than other people who live and play here? I live in TN and I know my own state lottery better than 99% of the player base on here. so let's get down to it.

    First off we have an anonymous winner just from the last jackpot before this one was even won. To copy and paste from another post of mine:

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    http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2015/12/03/1441-million-antioch-powerball-winner-claims-prize/76743512/

    "The identity of the lucky winner or winners will remain anonymous as the winnings were claimed in the name of a revocable trust."

    http://www.antiochtenn.com/2015/12/04/antioch-lotto-winner-claims-prize-remains-anonymous/

    "The $144.1 million ticket, purchased at Hobson Tobacco and Beer, 2216 Hobson Pike in Antioch, was claimed by the Avondale Revocable Trust."

    http://fox17.com/news/local/winning-1441m-powerball-ticket-sold-in-antioch-claimed

    "Not much is known about Avondale Revocable Trust. The communications director for the Tennessee Lottery says it is not a business, there was only one winner and they are located in the Nashville area."

    https://www.tnlottery.com/newsroom/newsitem.aspx?nid=1569 -I mean for gods sake there is no name even on press story report from the lottery own website.
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    Ok now that that's out of the way.  Let's go back to the very same FAQ page and look right above the "Can the winner of a large Lottery prize remain anonymous?"


     

    Let me put it the other way for you.

    The Powerball winner of the Powerball jackpot worth 144.1 million that was won on November 4th, 2015 in Tennessee was......... drum roll music................

    The Avondale Revocable Trust.

     

    See now? The public has the winner(s) name! The name of the trust.

    No bees, no honey.

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      I Agree! and most of the comments are from people that never won a jackpot but think they are experts. They appear to be suffering from "jackpot envy".

      Exactly as I said. I find all the negative comments to be odd and screaming of envy. Why in the hell would anyone even how a total stranger who won the jackpot spends their money and what decisions they make? They are just mad they did not win it so they trash them. Yet if they were never revealed and did it anonymously those same people would be saying it was "rigged" and that no one really won it. They are also mad because this goes against all of the conventional wisdom/advice of so-called "experts" yet there was no catastrophes to speak of. This only further proves that you don't even need a lawyer. Just because something is not a "good idea" also does not mean there is going to be a problem for certain. So many "experts" on here giving legal advice when they don't do it for a living, and all the brash assumptions that the lawyer is going to bleed them dry etc. You lost get over it. If you want to do all that crap if you win then so be it. But it is no one's business what these people do. I highly doubt they will have any issues like the minority cases do.

      Also as I said before it is their choice if they want to keep working not yours. I don't agree with the mindset that all lottery winners should all the sudden do all moral things and help the world just because they won a jackpot. They won and it is their life and can do whatever they want to regardless of how much money they got. But it is kinda stupid to go back to a 9 to 5 when you could make a lot more money and have a lot more fun being self-employed. Also if they really wanted to help people they could start a huge business and create jobs. But some just want to relax and enjoy life. But for many work is all they ever knew and for many that does not change. They like to stay in their comfort zone, the money is just a bonus and financial security after the house and bills are paid off. Also not every one who winds the lottery is hounded as much as you think, only those who are really stupid or are in bad situations already. Kinda like Marie and Jack which were extreme cases and in the minority. But why would you even care anyway it is not your problem. I don't, I worry about myself not how others are handling their winnings. If I did not win I don't care.

      Just goes to show you that not every "rule" applies all the time and most of the time you are not going to have any issues unless you are really stupid and have a shady lifestyle to begin with. Only the hardcore players on here care usually not most people out there. They lose and move on with their lives as those on here should do also. I personally would have not done the press conference until I had the cash. But this only goes to show you that not everyone needs to be worried even if they are not prepared. People act like every criminal in the world was out there waiting for them when in reality no one gave a crap and nothing happened at all. Not like he is carrying all that cash around in the open t was a signed lottery ticket, and as he said no one even knew him or who he was. So maybe it was smart to get it done quick before his identity was known. The fact is though you don't know what you will do until you get in that situation. That kind of money can change your thinking fast, especially if you are not a hardcore player and well prepped for it. I have been well prepared for a long time but even I want know for sure how I will feel and react until I win that large amount. But unlike most of these casual players I am prepared and ready and have been for a long time. And I think paying a team is a waste of money so I have prepared my own team for 10 years now which consists of me, myself, and I. Those are the only ones who will be getting a piece of the pie. I would be more worried about family, friends, accountants, lawyers, and financial advisors who usually are the real "crooks" you have to watch out for.

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        Posted: January 17, 2016, 6:53 am - IP Logged

        Yikes, we haven't heard the end of these 2.

        Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

        For a lead role in a cage?

         

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          Green laugh Oh my gosh, brilliant!  I would have never thought to live among the Amish for a few months. 

          You would be pretty safe especially if you took a million to build them a huge barn, church, buy a 100 cows, horses & buggies. 

          Shoot, they would never give you up to the media.  What a great deal that would be.  Love it!

          Nah you would become their slave then. LOL No way could I go without my PC and Internet that long. LOL Type

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            And I also said many times before that I would not run or hide from anyone if I won, so I applaud them for sticking their ground and not letting preconceived negative thoughts change who they are and scare them off. That is not how a lottery winner should live, and would only make you a prisoner of your own self-centered paranoia. You should be having fun and enjoying it not trying to hide because you think every criminal in the world is now looking for you. They are not, and those who had issues as I said are in the minority and already lived shady lifestyles before they won.

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              How do you expect to request privacy and the first thing you do is go to the TODAY show and now every Tom, Dick and Harry knows where you live?? The vultures will be out in no time! Remains to be seen but they absolutely made a mistake going to the media. At the end of the day it's their choice to make.

              No Pity!

              I lived in Kentucky for 11 yrs and People in the Southern State's are a lot different there, their hard working, down home, what you see is what you get, their friendly, and just all around honest good people, a hand shake is as binding as a Legal Document! They trusted their Attorney and did what he suggested! The Attorney was the one that wanted to be on National T.V. with his Daughter, Just like it said in the story above!! DON"T EVER TRUST AN ATTORNEY THAT'S A FATAL MISTAKE!! Hopefully they learned from that and hired a new one that is out for their best interest and not his!!!

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                And I also said many times before that I would not run or hide from anyone if I won, so I applaud them for sticking their ground and not letting preconceived negative thoughts change who they are and scare them off. That is not how a lottery winner should live, and would only make you a prisoner of your own self-centered paranoia. You should be having fun and enjoying it not trying to hide because you think every criminal in the world is now looking for you. They are not, and those who had issues as I said are in the minority and already lived shady lifestyles before they won.

                Thank You for your comment I APPLAUD YOU and completely agree with you, the comments i've read on here are way out their and i can't sit here and reply to every STUPID ONE! They live in a small town and out their the Neighbors take care of each other and I am sure they will watch out for them and do what they can!

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                   Can anyone spell STUPID?   They are going to live in the same house, go to the same job, shop at the same stores??  Oh geez!! 

                  They showed a picture of their house on National TV!!!!!    Now if I were a crazy person don't you think I would bee line to that house and kidnap one of them for ransom?   

                  Why work at the same job with winnings like that ? 

                  Why did they even bother to play that dang lottery if they weren't going to ENJOY life?   

                  Maybe they are still in shock?   Or just plain stupid!

                  When I win,  I am going to wear a wig, body padding, high platform heels and so much makeup even my mother wouldn't know me.   Oh, a Clown outfit!!  They never said you have to show your real face!   That's it!!!   So if you see a Clown on TV accepting the winnings ..... it ain't me!   Why would I wan't anyone to know my outfit?   LOL!!!!

                  It's said that God looks over fools.

                  No you wouldn't bee line their house just like most other sane people wouldn't. Also you would probably get shot and just because some "crazy person" would want to try something like that does not mean they would be successful and there is a good chance it would not end well for them. They stated they had security also and the local police is probably watching the house. But in reality this rarely happens, I only read about it happening to a few who were rich way back in the 80's and because they were shady to begin with and had bad behavior and made a lot of enemies. In this day and age it is not so easy to do, and most are not going to target a lottery winner they never heard of. It is not that easy and they know they don't even have the money yet. Chances are good it would not end good for the crazy person and most are not going to throw their lives away because someone won lottery, just like you wouldn't. Just because something is "possible" does not mean it is probable or likely to happen. We call this self-centered paranoia. It is good to prepared but most will move on with their life and forget them.

                  Also I live in PA so thanks for telling me you complete disguise as I now know it will be you. Your "costume" will be a dead giveaway. LOLJack-in-the-BoxGoof Jester Laugh

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                    I watched the recent lottery special. She spent $200,000 on hand bags alone! 2 Bentleys worth $400,000. She didn't even want to mention how much she spent on art. What was up with the gold chair?! No wonder she's broke. All of that money would have been better spent by getting educated in finance and economics to help with investing.

                    Thank you, I Love it!!! But she wasn't smart enough to go to school, nor did she have time she was out shopping!!LOL

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                      With large prize money, there should be a cooling-off period before winners receive the money. When players win such large amounts, in all the excitement, they can make rash decisions. How about a three month cooling-off period for prizes over 500,000?

                      HELL NO. I have been cool waiting my whole life for a win, once I get it I will be HOT. Red Devil But I am well prepared and every day is time wasting, and time is MONEY. The majority are fine and do well just because there are few bad insurances is no reason to be biased against everyone. Also you don't have any right keeping someone's winnings from them because you think they need to "cool off." Some of us are cool all the time and do not make brash decisions and blow money. It is not the job of the lottery to act as a psychologist and financial advisor. I waited long enough and I am well prepared so I would start my new life immediately not wait months. As John sated "tomorrow is not guaranteed." You got to live now not just for the future.

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                        No you wouldn't bee line their house just like most other sane people wouldn't. Also you would probably get shot and just because some "crazy person" would want to try something like that does not mean they would be successful and there is a good chance it would not end well for them. They stated they had security also and the local police is probably watching the house. But in reality this rarely happens, I only read about it happening to a few who were rich way back in the 80's and because they were shady to begin with and had bad behavior and made a lot of enemies. In this day and age it is not so easy to do, and most are not going to target a lottery winner they never heard of. It is not that easy and they know they don't even have the money yet. Chances are good it would not end good for the crazy person and most are not going to throw their lives away because someone won lottery, just like you wouldn't. Just because something is "possible" does not mean it is probable or likely to happen. We call this self-centered paranoia. It is good to prepared but most will move on with their life and forget them.

                        Also I live in PA so thanks for telling me you complete disguise as I now know it will be you. Your "costume" will be a dead giveaway. LOLJack-in-the-BoxGoof Jester Laugh

                        Yeah but the police won't be there forever.  this fanfare will last a month and the most and then the media will go back to other top stories.  Once the other PB winners come forward this tweedle dee and tweedle dumb will be forgotten.  Then they will be back in the news because they were robbed or something similar

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                          What lawyer never heard of claiming a huge lottery win thru a trust?  They need to fire him and get another lawyer with common sense.  They need to move and get unlisted numbers.  They can forget privacy, normalcy after announcing to the world they just won the lottery.

                           

                          What's up with that lawyer anyway?

                          To be fair, he is a divorce and bankruptcy lawyer, not a "real" lawyer.  That was their first mistake.   

                           

                          That's the thing about the lottery.  ANYBODY can win.  Unfortunately these two don't seem to have a brain between the two.  As others have said, we will see more of them.

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                            A very stupid move to say the least! Bash   In this day and age especially when it involves big money, "BE CAREFUL".  People do whacky things. Bang Head  It's a known fact that your life changes when you win big money. Dance

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                              Thank You for your comment I APPLAUD YOU and completely agree with you, the comments i've read on here are way out their and i can't sit here and reply to every STUPID ONE! They live in a small town and out their the Neighbors take care of each other and I am sure they will watch out for them and do what they can!

                              Exactly, and I am sure they will help them out too with some nice gifts. But you got all the "experts" of law, money, and crime on here who seem to think they know it all and are counting on their demise and failure because they lost. LOL

                                 
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