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California Lottery officials seized surveillance footage from store that sold Powerball ticket

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Posted: January 21, 2016, 11:24 am - IP Logged

Didnt the FBI and CIA "seize" all the videos after the missile hit the Pentagon??

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    Posted: January 21, 2016, 11:48 am - IP Logged

    I'm so glad they took the tape, because before you knew it, some employee would have had it posted all over Youtube and Facebook.  It's not just the winner who is at risk, so are their family and anyone else related.  After, the 900 million...I was too paranoid to even play the Powerball or Mega Millions.

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    Yes, but so what?  They can just get alternative names for everybody, like you see them do on TV.

    No, on 2nd thought, that too wouldn't be such a hot idea.
    Imagine the new, rich family at the beach, in LA:

    "But Mommy, why do I have to be called Gertrude?"
    Mom: Well, you can trade names with your brother, Samantha, if you want.

     

     

    (groppo, please, we don't want to have to confine you, again)

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      Posted: January 21, 2016, 12:32 pm - IP Logged

      Not that this is happening BUT did you ever think that the person who won decided to throw the ticket away and forget about it. It is said that Jack Whittaker, the morning he realized he won, his wife told him to throw the ticket away because they had everything they needed in life.

       

      Hence years later, he lost his company, settled hundreds of lawsuits filed against him, his grand daughter is dead, her boyfriend is dead, his wife left him, he has no friends, and he had become for a while a drinking cheating husband that lost the respect of his community who now says he wishes he listened to his wife. 

       

      Just saying you never know.

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        hmmh?  I find something not right with this!  They, the lottery commission, stated that they would no longer look for the person if they do not come forward.  Since that's the case, why "seize" the footage?  If the draw is random, then how do they know exactly what time the ticket was sold?  Interesting indeed.

        ICU nodding your head.  Let's get this bread!

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          Posted: January 21, 2016, 1:41 pm - IP Logged

          hmmh?  I find something not right with this!  They, the lottery commission, stated that they would no longer look for the person if they do not come forward.  Since that's the case, why "seize" the footage?  If the draw is random, then how do they know exactly what time the ticket was sold?  Interesting indeed.

          All the Tickets printed have the time purchased on them. I think it in military time.

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            Posted: January 21, 2016, 1:51 pm - IP Logged

            I don't much like the wording "seized".  That just is an uncomfortable word to me.

            It is likely not the proper word to use in this case.  The California Lottery doesn't have police powers, they do have contracts with their retailers and those contracts state that retailers must:

             

            Provide any information requested by the Lottery, such as information about equipment, service, accessibility, records, payment, or any other information immediately upon request.

             

            It is likely that "information" could include video recordings.  However, a contract doesn't permit seizure, if a retailer declined to provide the requested information the lottery could cancel their contract and take the retailer to court to force compliance with the terms. 

             

            This is more likely a case of them showing up and saying "Give us the video from date and time the winning ticket was sold" and it was handed over to them.  No skin off the retailer's nose and he just got $1M for selling the winning tickets so is hardly going to be upset or bothered.

            The obvious reason for getting it now is that retailers don't tend to keep months of recordings and the requested information would have been overwritten at some point.

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              Posted: January 21, 2016, 2:02 pm - IP Logged

              hmmh?  I find something not right with this!  They, the lottery commission, stated that they would no longer look for the person if they do not come forward.  Since that's the case, why "seize" the footage?  If the draw is random, then how do they know exactly what time the ticket was sold?  Interesting indeed.

              While the drawing is random, every ticket sold is logged in a database with a lot of information, including where it was sold and the date and time. 

              With hundreds of millions at stake it is possible that a dispute over ownership of the ticket could ensue and video of who actually purchased the ticket could be important.  If someone who differed from the purchaser showed up there would likely be questions as to how that person came to possess the ticket before they would pay out the winnings.

              Given the recent events in Iowa it is probably more important than ever to find out who bought a big winner and who the winnings are going to.

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                Posted: January 21, 2016, 4:50 pm - IP Logged

                I think I would take 3-5 months before contacting the lottery office.  That time would be used to shop for legal direction and give me time to adjust to this sudden wealth.

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                  Posted: January 21, 2016, 4:53 pm - IP Logged

                  I think it's a good thing, there is no limit to what some will do to get the identity of a winner. 

                  If you want to stay hidden wear a cap and don't look up when you are buying the tickets. 

                  Also don't park near the front of the store, as cameras can record your car and license plate.

                  Know where the security cameras are located before hand.   Buy your tickets at a place where

                  your not a regular customer etc...  Even if you don't mind others knowing who you are, this at

                  least can give you some time to sort things out before letting everyone else know.

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                    Posted: January 21, 2016, 4:57 pm - IP Logged

                    Didnt the FBI and CIA "seize" all the videos after the missile hit the Pentagon??

                           I Agree!LMFAO

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                      Posted: January 21, 2016, 5:34 pm - IP Logged

                      I Agree!  what is rush to "find" the winner?  The ticket is not about to expire--they just won.  There is something offensive about this to me. The winner will claim their prize (or not) when they are ready.

                      Also--what is the video about?  A lottery ticket is a bearer instrument.  Doesn't matter who bought it.  Who signs it and turns it in is what matters. 

                      Every bill in your wallet is a bearer instrument, too. Do you think if you drop a 20 on the ground it belongs to me if I pick it up before you do?

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                        Posted: January 21, 2016, 7:18 pm - IP Logged

                        Didnt the FBI and CIA "seize" all the videos after the missile hit the Pentagon??

                        That is exactly right!!! And issued gag orders on air traffic controllers   Some of whom meant some very unfortunate "accidental" deaths 

                        This sounds fishy and like an overreach of government power.  It's been a week. There is no need to start seizing property.

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                          Posted: January 21, 2016, 7:56 pm - IP Logged

                          Not that this is happening BUT did you ever think that the person who won decided to throw the ticket away and forget about it. It is said that Jack Whittaker, the morning he realized he won, his wife told him to throw the ticket away because they had everything they needed in life.

                           

                          Hence years later, he lost his company, settled hundreds of lawsuits filed against him, his grand daughter is dead, her boyfriend is dead, his wife left him, he has no friends, and he had become for a while a drinking cheating husband that lost the respect of his community who now says he wishes he listened to his wife. 

                           

                          Just saying you never know.

                          Could be possible. Somebody could just decide that they don't want it.

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                            Posted: January 21, 2016, 8:12 pm - IP Logged

                            so even if the person (s) havent claimed, the store still gets their bonus sale? 1 million? upfront

                            but if no one claims , money reverts back to all states ... 

                            seems a store wins no matter what. 

                            I agree with RL. Save the speculation, deal with rational logic.

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                              Posted: January 21, 2016, 8:31 pm - IP Logged

                              That's great advice upthread about going to different stores to buy tickets wearing a hat not parking in the front etc.