$654 MILLION: Mega Millions lottery jackpot skyrockets

Oct 13, 2018, 10:19 am (125 comments)

Mega Millions

4th-largest US lottery jackpot in history; 7th-largest cash value

By Todd Northrop

There are going to be a lot of lottery tickets sold this week.

For only the 5th time in the history of United States lotteries, a lottery jackpot has grown to more than $600 million.

The new high-water mark of $654 million for the current Mega Millions jackpot was achieved after no winning tickets were sold for Friday night's $548 million grand prize.

The lump-sum cash payout value of Tuesday's Mega Millions jackpot is $372.6 million.  After-tax cash and annuity prize amounts are reported state-by-state on the Jackpot Analysis page at USA Mega, a web site devoted to the Mega Millions and Powerball multi-state lottery games.

There is only one Mega Millions jackpot that has ever grown larger than this one: A then-record $656 million grand prize drawing on March 30, 2012, when three tickets from Illinois, Kansas, and Maryland split the winnings.  The Kansas and Maryland winners claimed their shares anonymously, and an Illinois couple claimed the final third of the massive payout.

Tuesday's mammoth jackpot is the result of 23 consecutive draws without a winner.  The run-up started as a $40 million prize on July 27.

Players should note that jackpot amounts are conservative estimates provided by the lotteries, and are often somewhat higher by the time the drawing occurs.

The winning numbers for Friday, October 12, 2018 were 4, 24, 46, 61, and 70, with Mega Ball number 7.  The Megaplier number was 3.

Even though nobody won the jackpot Friday, 1 lucky player from Arkansas matched the first 5 numbers for a $1,000,000 prize. But because that player also purchased the Megaplier option for an additional $1, their payout will be multiplied to $3 million.

All Mega Millions jurisdictions exception California offer the Megaplier option, which for an extra $1 per play multiplies any non-jackpot prizes the player wins by the Megaplier number drawn.  The Megaplier is not available in California, because the fixed nature of the prize increase offered with the Megaplier is not compatible with California's pari-mutuel payouts.  By law, California awards all lottery prizes on a pari-mutuel basis, meaning the prizes will change each drawing based on the number of tickets sold within California and the number of tickets that won at each prize level in the state.

Also, a total of 55 tickets matched four of the first five numbers plus the Mega Ball to win a $10,000 prize. Of those tickets, 7 were purchased with the Megaplier option, increasing the prize to $30,000, and 6 were sold in California, where the prize awarded this drawing is $16,125.

Following the Friday drawing, the Mega Millions annuity jackpot estimate was raised $106 million from its previous amount of $548 million. The cash value was raised by $63.4 million from its previous amount of $309.2 million.

The next Mega Millions drawing will take place Tuesday night at 11:00 pm Eastern Time (8:00 pm Pacific).

Mega Millions is currently offered for sale in 44 states, plus Washington, D.C. and the U.S. Virgin Islands. Drawings are Tuesdays and Fridays at 11:00 pm Eastern Time. Tickets cost $2 each.

Mega Millions lottery results are published within minutes of the drawing at USA Mega (www.usamega.com).  The USA Mega Web site provides lottery players in-depth information about the United States's two biggest multi-state lottery games, Mega Millions and Mega Millions.

Top 25 United States lottery jackpots of all time

Tuesday's Mega Millions jackpot currently stands as the 4th-largest lottery jackpot of all time in the United States, and the 2nd-largest Mega Millions jackpot ever.  Brisk sales will likely push the jackpot estimate higher by draw time.

If nobody wins Tuesday, it's anyone's guess how high it will go.

  1. Powerball: $1.5864 billion, Jan. 13, 2016 - California, Florida, Tennessee
  2. Powerball: $758.7 million, Aug. 23, 2017 - Massachusetts
  3. Mega Millions: $656 million, Mar. 30, 2012 - Illinois, Kansas, Maryland
  4. Mega Millions: $654 million, Oct. 16, 2018 - Preliminary estimate, not won yet
  5. Mega Millions: $636 million, Dec. 17, 2013 - California, Georgia
  6. Powerball: $590.5 million, May 18, 2013 - Florida
  7. Powerball: $587.5 million, Nov. 28, 2012 - Arizona, Missouri
  8. Powerball: $564.1 million, Feb. 11, 2015 - North Carolina, Puerto Rico, Texas
  9. Powerball: $559.7 million, Jan. 6, 2018 - New Hampshire
  10. Mega Millions: $543 million, Jul. 24, 2018 - California
  11. Mega Millions: $536 million, Jul. 8, 2016 - Indiana
  12. Mega Millions: $533 million, Mar. 30, 2018 - New Jersey
  13. Powerball: $487 million, Jul. 30, 2016 - New Hampshire
  14. Powerball: $456.7 million, Mar. 17, 2018 - Pennsylvania
  15. Mega Millions: $451 million, Jan. 5, 2018 - Florida
  16. Powerball: $448.4 million, Aug. 7, 2013 - Minnesota, New Jersey (2)
  17. Powerball: $447.8 million, Jun. 10, 2017 - California
  18. Powerball: $435.3 million, Feb. 22, 2017 - Indiana
  19. Powerball: $429.6 million, May 7, 2016 - New Jersey
  20. Powerball: $425.3 million, Feb. 19, 2014 - California
  21. Powerball: $420.9 million, Nov. 26, 2016 - Tennessee
  22. Mega Millions: $414 million, Mar. 18, 2014 - Florida, Maryland
  23. Powerball: $399.4 million, Sep. 18, 2013 - South Carolina
  24. Mega Millions: $393 million, Aug. 11, 2017 - Illinois
  25. Mega Millions: $390 million, Mar. 6, 2007 - Georgia, New Jersey

For those keeping score, the number of jackpots in the top 25, by lottery game, are:

  • Powerball: 15
  • Mega Millions: 10

Top 25 cash value jackpots

Since many lottery winners collect their winnings in cash, the lump-sum payout is an important measure of what a winning ticket could be worth.

Looking at the cash value, the upcoming Mega Millions jackpot ranks as the 7th-largest cash value in U.S. history.

  1. Powerball: $983.5 million cash, Jan. 13, 2016 ($1.5864 billion annuity) - California, Florida, Tennessee
  2. Powerball: $480.5 million cash, Aug. 23, 2017 ($758.7 million annuity) - Massachusetts
  3. Mega Millions: $471 million cash, Mar. 30, 2012 ($656 million annuity) - Illinois, Kansas, Maryland
  4. Powerball: $384.7 million cash, Nov. 28, 2012 ($587.5 million annuity) - Arizona, Missouri
  5. Powerball: $381.1 million cash, Feb. 11, 2015 ($564.1 million annuity) - North Carolina, Puerto Rico, Texas
  6. Mega Millions: $378 million cash, Jul. 8, 2016 ($536 million annuity) - Indiana
  7. Mega Millions: $372.6 million cash, Oct. 16, 2018 ($654 million annuity) - Preliminary estimate, not won yet
  8. Powerball: $370.9 million cash, May 18, 2013 ($590.5 million annuity) - Florida
  9. Powerball: $352 million cash, Jan. 6, 2018 ($559.7 million annuity) - New Hampshire
  10. Mega Millions: $347.6 million cash, Dec. 17, 2013 ($636 million annuity) - California, Georgia
  11. Powerball: $336.8 million cash, Jul. 30, 2016 ($487 million annuity) - New Hampshire
  12. Mega Millions: $324 million cash, Mar. 30, 2018 ($533 million annuity) - New Jersey
  13. Mega Millions: $320.5 million cash, Jul. 24, 2018 ($543 million annuity) - California
  14. Powerball: $284 million cash, May 7, 2016 ($429.6 million annuity) - New Jersey
  15. Mega Millions: $281.9 million cash, Jan. 5, 2018 ($451 million annuity) - Florida
  16. Powerball: $279.1 million cash, Jun. 10, 2017 ($447.8 million annuity) - California
  17. Powerball: $273.9 million cash, Mar. 17, 2018 ($456.7 million annuity) - Pennsylvania
  18. Powerball: $263.5 million cash, Feb. 22, 2017 ($435.3 million annuity) - Indiana
  19. Powerball: $258.2 million cash, Aug. 7, 2013 ($448.4 million annuity) - Minnesota, New Jersey (2)
  20. Powerball: $254.7 million cash, Nov. 26, 2016 ($420.9 million annuity) - Tennessee
  21. Mega Millions: $246.5 million cash, Aug. 11, 2017 ($393 million annuity) - Illinois
  22. Mega Millions: $240 million cash, Jan. 4, 2011 ($380 million annuity) - Idaho, Washington
  23. Mega Millions: $233.1 million cash, Mar. 6, 2007 ($390 million annuity) - Georgia, New Jersey
  24. Mega Millions: $230.9 million cash, Mar. 18, 2014 ($414 million annuity) - Florida, Maryland
  25. Powerball: $227.8 million cash, Feb. 19, 2014 ($425.3 million annuity) - California

The number of cash value jackpots in the top 25, by lottery game, are:

  • Powerball: 14
  • Mega Millions: 11

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Comments

jjtheprince14

Right, yeah no one is going to buy tickets because no one cares anymore.  Just us.

dpoly1's avatardpoly1

I got my tickets this morning!

Let's go Mega Millions!

Noel Christmas in October!

Bleudog101

Rolling rolling baby,

got to keep on rolling!

Big $6 winner here...LOL

CDanaT's avatarCDanaT

May have to rethink my MM chosen numbers this time Blue Thinking    ...... Onward we go with the PB tonight.. stay thirsty in the hunt my friends.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

7 is my lucky number.

Bleudog101

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 13, 2018

7 is my lucky number.

I played #'s from a foreign lottery for MM.  One of them had 34 for the last # and said I can't use that so will add them together=7 for the Gold Mega Ball.

Good luck to you tonight Artist77 on Powerball!

CDanaT's avatarCDanaT

Quote: Originally posted by Bleudog101 on Oct 13, 2018

Rolling rolling baby,

got to keep on rolling!

Big $6 winner here...LOL

lowellm

I'm never much good for anything once a jackpot gets this high, my head is in the clouds daydreaming. lol

hearsetrax's avatarhearsetrax

Quote: Originally posted by CDanaT on Oct 13, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KPplYp7K7M     

or this version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA6qZEjzqQg   (just for BD)

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unOlaq9TlVE     <----good jingle

LOL couple of good toe tappers thar , CD 

but I still like this one this is the life by Weird Al

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

CDanaT,

Is the guy at the end of the jingle music?

Scared

CDanaT's avatarCDanaT

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 13, 2018

CDanaT,

Is the guy at the end of the jingle music?

Scared

Ya knoooooooowwww CT, I was sorta thinking that very same thing  Green laugh

CDanaT's avatarCDanaT

Quote: Originally posted by hearsetrax on Oct 13, 2018

LOL couple of good toe tappers thar , CD 

but I still like this one this is the life by Weird Al

HT..... That one could apply to a few of our fellow posters  Naughty

Redd55

I'll gladly take tonight's PowerBall jackpot and slip into obscurity. Wink

Bleudog101

Quote: Originally posted by CDanaT on Oct 13, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KPplYp7K7M     

or this version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA6qZEjzqQg   (just for BD)

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unOlaq9TlVE     <----good jingle

WOW..thanks for posting those from youtube; played 'em both...long forgotten from childhood and the oldies channel never ever plays them.

bigbuckswede

I will move the cash to Sweden!

Groppo's avatarGroppo

Quote: Originally posted by Bleudog101 on Oct 13, 2018

Rolling rolling baby,

got to keep on rolling!

Big $6 winner here...LOL

.

I hear you man, but the lotto gotto stop rollin' some time.
Just let me win my 1 million (2nd prize), and I'll be set, I think, because of the taxes.

I hope the Trump Administration makes a mandataory lotto, which takes a buck out of each person's paycheck, and has a national lotto once a month, for all legally employed persons, JUST in the USA.

This would include all the people on SS, disablty.  etc.

But, if he does, I'd hope he drops the odds of the game considerably, because the odds  are driving folks like you and me crazy.

paymentplan-man

I have a feeling PB wont be won until mega wins so Ill wait some more. I was just looking at the cash amounts and was surprised to note that even though this jackpot is what 2million shy of being the 3rd highest annuity amount it's 100million dollars less than that same amount. Granted no one would care but it still seems crazy that the amounts have such a difference while only being 2 million less than each other. I was really hoping it hit on Friday and Im praying that it doesn't reach one Billion  No Nod

lowellm

Quote: Originally posted by paymentplan-man on Oct 13, 2018

I have a feeling PB wont be won until mega wins so Ill wait some more. I was just looking at the cash amounts and was surprised to note that even though this jackpot is what 2million shy of being the 3rd highest annuity amount it's 100million dollars less than that same amount. Granted no one would care but it still seems crazy that the amounts have such a difference while only being 2 million less than each other. I was really hoping it hit on Friday and Im praying that it doesn't reach one Billion  No Nod

The fluctuating bond yields have thrown this advertised jackpot (annuity vs. cash option spread) all out of whack. They base it off of the amount of cash in the pot, divide it by the current bond (treasuries, I guess) rates, and that is how they come up with the advertised jackpot. A month ago it was the cash amount divided by 0.60, last week it was cash divided by 0.58, last night's drawing was cash divided by 0.565, and now it's the cash in the pot divided by 0.57.

wander73's avatarwander73

Quote: Originally posted by Bleudog101 on Oct 13, 2018

I played #'s from a foreign lottery for MM.  One of them had 34 for the last # and said I can't use that so will add them together=7 for the Gold Mega Ball.

Good luck to you tonight Artist77 on Powerball!

Any number can be drawn.  7 does sound good.

wander73's avatarwander73

There will be a winner by Friday night.   There is something weird about the lottery amt and perhaps I think the winner(s) come from New England,  CA,  Floriday,  Michigan???

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Bleudog101 on Oct 13, 2018

I played #'s from a foreign lottery for MM.  One of them had 34 for the last # and said I can't use that so will add them together=7 for the Gold Mega Ball.

Good luck to you tonight Artist77 on Powerball!

Good luck Bluedog! Like your strategy.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by bigbuckswede on Oct 13, 2018

I will move the cash to Sweden!

Thumbs Up

noise-gate

 The 2nd prize winner came from a State that is not close to the ocean, that explains everything and l expected this ruse.

Image result for Saruman- l have seen it.

 * The Winner on Tuesday comes from a State with an Ocean View. 

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by jjtheprince14 on Oct 13, 2018

Right, yeah no one is going to buy tickets because no one cares anymore.  Just us.

With 57 million tickets sold there was less than a 20% chance of somebody winning the jackpot. Sales were 19 million more than the previous drawing, but I believe the real ticket buying frenzy won't start until the cash value reaches $500 million. 

"no one cares anymore"

If anything, players know the difference between a fake jackpot and the real money after taxes.

Bilionario's avatarBilionario

Foreign jackpot winner incoming...

Bleudog101

Certainly won't be the first time, though best of my knowledge not for this amount.  One in Florida and one in Oregon in recent memory.

music*'s avatarmusic*

I am ready.  I picked out the Hotel, Bank, and Post Office that I will need. 

 

 I may delay my claiming day in order to get a Living Revocable Trust and an LLC Limited Liability Company. Plus insurance.  Get my Legal and Financial ducks in order.

 I will need a personal loan to tide me over until I get the check. Don't worry I will not do what David Lee Edwards did and go to Las Vegas with a $200,000.00 loan. 

 LOL

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by hearsetrax on Oct 13, 2018

LOL couple of good toe tappers thar , CD 

but I still like this one this is the life by Weird Al

Best Weird Al ever!

One more minute, you've got to love the words........

"I burned down the malt shop where we used to go

just because it reminds me of you"

too bad it never played on radio;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWhpk-8QLFQ

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by music* on Oct 13, 2018

I am ready.  I picked out the Hotel, Bank, and Post Office that I will need. 

 

 I may delay my claiming day in order to get a Living Revocable Trust and an LLC Limited Liability Company. Plus insurance.  Get my Legal and Financial ducks in order.

 I will need a personal loan to tide me over until I get the check. Don't worry I will not do what David Lee Edwards did and go to Las Vegas with a $200,000.00 loan. 

 LOL

Reading your post music had me assuming that you had come into the possession of a palantir & gazed into it...

" l picked out a bank, may delay my claiming day, get my legal and financial ducks in order, l will need a personal loan to tide me over until l get the check."- Impressive to say the least.

Which reminds me of this quote.

Optimists have a tendency to make lemonade out of lemons, and to then see the glass as half-full rather than half-empty. It's an admirable quality, one that can positively affect mental and  physical health. Some optimists consistently ascribe benevolent motives to others and interpret situations in the best possible light; others simply disassociate their internal mood from external circumstances, no matter how sticky. Adding in a bit of complexity, the latest research shows that  tempering a sunny disposition with a small dose of realism, or even  pessimism, might be the best way to build  resilience and achieve one's  goals." - Psychology Today.

More Power to you!

lowellm

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2018

Reading your post music had me assuming that you had come into the possession of a palantir & gazed into it...

" l picked out a bank, may delay my claiming day, get my legal and financial ducks in order, l will need a personal loan to tide me over until l get the check."- Impressive to say the least.

Which reminds me of this quote.

Optimists have a tendency to make lemonade out of lemons, and to then see the glass as half-full rather than half-empty. It's an admirable quality, one that can positively affect mental and  physical health. Some optimists consistently ascribe benevolent motives to others and interpret situations in the best possible light; others simply disassociate their internal mood from external circumstances, no matter how sticky. Adding in a bit of complexity, the latest research shows that  tempering a sunny disposition with a small dose of realism, or even  pessimism, might be the best way to build  resilience and achieve one's  goals." - Psychology Today.

More Power to you!

I love this quote! Write your goals down each and every day, keep your eyes open for opportunity when it smiles upon you, recognize and act upon it, and surround yourself with advisors to teach and guide you on your way.

noise-gate

Image result for Anse Source d'Argent This is where l will be, should l bag this baby. Image result for seychelles hotels

noise-gate

And here...l couldn't help myself.

Image result for seychelles BEACHES

TheMeatman2005's avatarTheMeatman2005

No winner in Power Ball last night so now the total up for grabs is $999 mil

MM $654 PB $345

TheMeatman2005's avatarTheMeatman2005

I used LP's  Quick Picks Generator for 5 sets for each game.

If I win, don't worry Todd, you will get a commission.

Wink

music*'s avatarmusic*

Quote: Originally posted by TheMeatman2005 on Oct 14, 2018

I used LP's  Quick Picks Generator for 5 sets for each game.

If I win, don't worry Todd, you will get a commission.

Wink

You are generous and thoughtful. How big of a commission? or tip?

 Thank You for the update on the $999,000,000.00  It may reach a billion dollars before the draws.

 Drum

Bleudog101

Quote: Originally posted by music* on Oct 14, 2018

You are generous and thoughtful. How big of a commission? or tip?

 Thank You for the update on the $999,000,000.00  It may reach a billion dollars before the draws.

 Drum

That's a Teaser there music*...999 million...Notice MM or PB hasn't upped the ante @ all so we may be stuck there.

 

Second tier prizes won in MI & NE for Powerball, so much for the coastal theory though it does seem to apply to the top tier prize.

lottologix

If I were to win the jackpot I would ask for it all in unwrapped hand counted pennies :)

mauvanilla

“We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world.”

paymentplan-man

Quote: Originally posted by lottologix on Oct 14, 2018

If I were to win the jackpot I would ask for it all in unwrapped hand counted pennies :)

Not enough pennies in the us for this though. you figure there's at max 2 trillion pennies although that's being generous. 2Trillion pennies is just 20Million. Sorry I ruined your joke Evil Smile

maximumfun's avatarmaximumfun

I went out to purchase a (1) ticket for Tues and Wednesday and had the fortune to stand behind a woman who was running 20-ish slips through the machine.  1 line per slip and then verified each slip to the ticket and THEN had her grandson verify that her verification was correct.  I had plenty of time to drink my coffee, and go back and get a refill (clerk told us all to go ahead and get refills cuz this was a weekly "outing" for this family.  The man behind me was disappointed I only got 1 pick per game.  He was hoping to get an additional cup of coffee out of the wait.  :)

Bleudog101

Quote: Originally posted by maximumfun on Oct 14, 2018

I went out to purchase a (1) ticket for Tues and Wednesday and had the fortune to stand behind a woman who was running 20-ish slips through the machine.  1 line per slip and then verified each slip to the ticket and THEN had her grandson verify that her verification was correct.  I had plenty of time to drink my coffee, and go back and get a refill (clerk told us all to go ahead and get refills cuz this was a weekly "outing" for this family.  The man behind me was disappointed I only got 1 pick per game.  He was hoping to get an additional cup of coffee out of the wait.  :)

You might not have won the lottery, but won the patient person award.  My mouth would have said 'Eff this' and left or went to the self service lottery machine if your state/store has them.

CDanaT's avatarCDanaT

Quote: Originally posted by maximumfun on Oct 14, 2018

I went out to purchase a (1) ticket for Tues and Wednesday and had the fortune to stand behind a woman who was running 20-ish slips through the machine.  1 line per slip and then verified each slip to the ticket and THEN had her grandson verify that her verification was correct.  I had plenty of time to drink my coffee, and go back and get a refill (clerk told us all to go ahead and get refills cuz this was a weekly "outing" for this family.  The man behind me was disappointed I only got 1 pick per game.  He was hoping to get an additional cup of coffee out of the wait.  :)

I would have held out for donuts !!! 1 chocolate and 1 plain and none of those fufu ones either !!!

lowellm

Quote: Originally posted by maximumfun on Oct 14, 2018

I went out to purchase a (1) ticket for Tues and Wednesday and had the fortune to stand behind a woman who was running 20-ish slips through the machine.  1 line per slip and then verified each slip to the ticket and THEN had her grandson verify that her verification was correct.  I had plenty of time to drink my coffee, and go back and get a refill (clerk told us all to go ahead and get refills cuz this was a weekly "outing" for this family.  The man behind me was disappointed I only got 1 pick per game.  He was hoping to get an additional cup of coffee out of the wait.  :)

In my little town (pop 2500, give or take) there are three men who have won million dollar plus jackpots (actually, one was $1000/week for life, but that was more than 20 years ago, so it's officially a million plus by now) and I see one of these guys in the store where I always get my gas, coffee, and tickets. He's always got a fistful of scratch-offs to turn in for redemption, and he shoots the breeze with the clerk and anyone who stops in. When a customer comes in, he'll step aside and let the clerk take care of the customer, so as not to be in anybody's way. The other jackpot winner I know is always volunteering his time in the community, plowing snow and such things, and he's quick to buy you a beer or your lunch if he's in the pub eating his lunch.

music*'s avatarmusic*

Quote: Originally posted by lowellm on Oct 14, 2018

In my little town (pop 2500, give or take) there are three men who have won million dollar plus jackpots (actually, one was $1000/week for life, but that was more than 20 years ago, so it's officially a million plus by now) and I see one of these guys in the store where I always get my gas, coffee, and tickets. He's always got a fistful of scratch-offs to turn in for redemption, and he shoots the breeze with the clerk and anyone who stops in. When a customer comes in, he'll step aside and let the clerk take care of the customer, so as not to be in anybody's way. The other jackpot winner I know is always volunteering his time in the community, plowing snow and such things, and he's quick to buy you a beer or your lunch if he's in the pub eating his lunch.

lowellm, Thank You for the positive stories. Especially originating from ILLINOIS. I only hear bad news from Chicago. Good Luck!!

lowellm

Quote: Originally posted by music* on Oct 14, 2018

lowellm, Thank You for the positive stories. Especially originating from ILLINOIS. I only hear bad news from Chicago. Good Luck!!

You're sure welcome, music*! Down state Illinois is a whole other world compared to Chicago (although Chicago is a surprisingly friendly city to visit, I must say!) Best of Luck to you, as well!

dpoly1's avatardpoly1

My Curmudgeonmobile!


New-2018-Bentley-Flying-Spur-W12-S

Original Bey's avatarOriginal Bey

My Lottery Dream Home airs at 1pm EDT on HGTV today.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by maximumfun on Oct 14, 2018

I went out to purchase a (1) ticket for Tues and Wednesday and had the fortune to stand behind a woman who was running 20-ish slips through the machine.  1 line per slip and then verified each slip to the ticket and THEN had her grandson verify that her verification was correct.  I had plenty of time to drink my coffee, and go back and get a refill (clerk told us all to go ahead and get refills cuz this was a weekly "outing" for this family.  The man behind me was disappointed I only got 1 pick per game.  He was hoping to get an additional cup of coffee out of the wait.  :)

Kinda reminds me of my experience in a neighboring city, when the jackpot was over a billion. A jackpot counter hogger, oh my..

hearsetrax's avatarhearsetrax

Quote: Originally posted by dpoly1 on Oct 14, 2018

My Curmudgeonmobile!


New-2018-Bentley-Flying-Spur-W12-S

music*'s avatarmusic*

Quote: Originally posted by Original Bey on Oct 14, 2018

My Lottery Dream Home airs at 1pm EDT on HGTV today.

Same here on Pacific Time 1 pm - 3 pm. HGTV  Thank You Original Bey!

Teddi's avatarTeddi

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2018

And here...l couldn't help myself.

Image result for seychelles BEACHES

Are you still planning on doing the Seychelles and Madagascar?

Teddi's avatarTeddi

Quote: Originally posted by Bilionario on Oct 13, 2018

Foreign jackpot winner incoming...

And the problem with that would be what exactly?

Teddi's avatarTeddi

Quote: Originally posted by Original Bey on Oct 14, 2018

My Lottery Dream Home airs at 1pm EDT on HGTV today.

The first few episodes in the series were good, after that, everyone they featured were people who only won $1 million or less. After taxes, what is left to buy a house means the houses are no different than what we see on House Hunters. Made me lose interest. Especially considering how the show is billed. 

Reminds me of that lottery documentary that was done where all the winners still lived in their old homes, still drove their old cars, still clipped coupons, still bought their belongings from yard sales and still worked the same jobs. It was incredibly boring. 

dpoly1's avatardpoly1

Quote: Originally posted by hearsetrax on Oct 14, 2018

Awesome!

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Quote: Originally posted by Teddi on Oct 14, 2018

The first few episodes in the series were good, after that, everyone they featured were people who only won $1 million or less. After taxes, what is left to buy a house means the houses are no different than what we see on House Hunters. Made me lose interest. Especially considering how the show is billed. 

Reminds me of that lottery documentary that was done where all the winners still lived in their old homes, still drove their old cars, still clipped coupons, still bought their belongings from yard sales and still worked the same jobs. It was incredibly boring. 

Teddi,  You might enjoy the first show listed for 1 pm. PDST. It will feature Rick and Lori Knudsen who won $180 million here in California.

Teddi's avatarTeddi

Quote: Originally posted by music* on Oct 14, 2018

Teddi,  You might enjoy the first show listed for 1 pm. PDST. It will feature Rick and Lori Knudsen who won $180 million here in California.

Now you're talking.

Bilionario's avatarBilionario

Quote: Originally posted by Teddi on Oct 14, 2018

And the problem with that would be what exactly?

No problem at all mate,I just have a sneaky feeling that this jackpot is going to make history...Smile

paymentplan-man

Quote: Originally posted by Bilionario on Oct 14, 2018

No problem at all mate,I just have a sneaky feeling that this jackpot is going to make history...Smile

I really hope not the higher it the greater chance of more than one winner which means one person could have just won it weeks ago so that the rest of us don't go insane with lottery fever Approve

TheMeatman2005's avatarTheMeatman2005

Quote: Originally posted by music* on Oct 14, 2018

You are generous and thoughtful. How big of a commission? or tip?

 Thank You for the update on the $999,000,000.00  It may reach a billion dollars before the draws.

 Drum

Let's just say.... To be determined!

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LottoLucy's avatarLottoLucy

Quote: Originally posted by Bilionario on Oct 14, 2018

No problem at all mate,I just have a sneaky feeling that this jackpot is going to make history...Smile

Hmmm, like the first person to win from a country in southern Africa?  That kind of history? 

 

It would give an interesting spin to the coastal theory making the rounds.  Wink

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Teddi on Oct 14, 2018

Are you still planning on doing the Seychelles and Madagascar?

Yes l am Teddi. The pics above are of the Seychelles. I expect to visit your homeland as well & throw a few coins in the local fountain.Btw- where have you been? When l don't see certain posts from members of LP, l sometimes fear the worst. However " Look all around, there's nothing but blues skies, Look straight ahead....Cool"

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LottoLucy on Oct 14, 2018

Hmmm, like the first person to win from a country in southern Africa?  That kind of history? 

 

It would give an interesting spin to the coastal theory making the rounds.  Wink

...and l read somewhere that just off the Namibian coast, they are dredging for diamonds LL. In desperate times, one sometimes has to look to far off lands for fortunes.

TheMeatman2005's avatarTheMeatman2005

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 14, 2018

...and l read somewhere that just off the Namibian coast, they are dredging for diamonds LL. In desperate times, one sometimes has to look to far off lands for fortunes.

And all we have to do to look for fortunes is to go down to the corner convenience store and say...."One Mega Millions and one Power Ball ticket please"

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Quote: Originally posted by TheMeatman2005 on Oct 14, 2018

And all we have to do to look for fortunes is to go down to the corner convenience store and say...."One Mega Millions and one Power Ball ticket please"

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Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by TheMeatman2005 on Oct 14, 2018

And all we have to do to look for fortunes is to go down to the corner convenience store and say...."One Mega Millions and one Power Ball ticket please"

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With the megaplier or power play. Lol

RGebhard55

I'm sure this has been said a lot but if i dont win i want to see it grow. We already have seen a 1.5 billion prize. I want to see 2 billion. And i want to see one person win it. Also, id like to be that person. Just throwing it out there to the Lotto Gods if they are listening.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by TheMeatman2005 on Oct 14, 2018

And all we have to do to look for fortunes is to go down to the corner convenience store and say...."One Mega Millions and one Power Ball ticket please"

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I couldn't have said It better myself TMM.

lowellm

Quote: Originally posted by RGebhard55 on Oct 14, 2018

I'm sure this has been said a lot but if i dont win i want to see it grow. We already have seen a 1.5 billion prize. I want to see 2 billion. And i want to see one person win it. Also, id like to be that person. Just throwing it out there to the Lotto Gods if they are listening.

At the current bond rates, the jackpot would need to be around $3.1B before I (an Illinois taxpayer, 4.95%) would clear $1B after taxes. I've always said, I'll either win big, or not at all! So far I've kept that promise!

RGebhard55

I'd love to be below 5%. I live in NJ 8%. So they cut deep in my lotto pie. I think my take home amount is around 253m after both federal and state. I think i might be able to scrape by with that total.  :)

cbr$'s avatarcbr$
I'm almost ready to take that nice two hour trip to purchase a few of ticket.
For both games. Let it roll.
lowellm

Quote: Originally posted by RGebhard55 on Oct 14, 2018

I'd love to be below 5%. I live in NJ 8%. So they cut deep in my lotto pie. I think my take home amount is around 253m after both federal and state. I think i might be able to scrape by with that total.  :)

Haha, you might still need to clip coupons to make ends meet... Since the federal tax cut, I just figure the cash option x .58 to allow for both state and federal taxes. In this drawing it would come out to $216,000,000. Remember, the lottery takes out 24% for federal taxes, but you'd still owe 13% more come tax time, plus state taxes. I'd put 10% of that into a charitable foundation, so that would reduce the taxable basis a little bit.

RGebhard55

I am curious about one thing, Once they take out Fed and State taxes the first time, Do they continue to take them out year after year ? Do they go after the interest it generates in the bank ?

lowellm

Quote: Originally posted by RGebhard55 on Oct 14, 2018

I'd love to be below 5%. I live in NJ 8%. So they cut deep in my lotto pie. I think my take home amount is around 253m after both federal and state. I think i might be able to scrape by with that total.  :)

Hey, it looks like we used to be neighbors ;) Back in '90 & '91 I was stationed at the Navy base in Philly. I miss those cheese steaks!

lowellm

Quote: Originally posted by RGebhard55 on Oct 14, 2018

I am curious about one thing, Once they take out Fed and State taxes the first time, Do they continue to take them out year after year ? Do they go after the interest it generates in the bank ?

Nope, they can only take them out for that one year, after that it's yours to keep. You can invest it, or keep it under your mattress and they cannot touch it. But if you invest it, whatever money you make from those investment is taxable. Invest it in conservative stocks that pay dividends, or in mutual funds, and the money it earns will be taxed at the lowest rates.

RGebhard55

LOL. Yeah if anything i have a tough choice to make when i am in the mood for a ch steak. There are so many great places to get them. i have 2 within a mile of my house. I used to work at the yard for a few jobs back in the early 80s. I worked on the USS Forrestal, I was surprised when i saw it in the news recently about John McCain. I was like Hey i worked on that !! Small world.

I cleaned up a couple of barges and worked on a destroyer we were giving to Pakistan. We were welding and pulling cable when they were sleeping 3 to a bunk. They were smiling at us and laughing as sparks would be shooting by their heads. lol I guess they didnt want to give up their bed because someone would snatch it up.

lowellm

Quote: Originally posted by RGebhard55 on Oct 14, 2018

LOL. Yeah if anything i have a tough choice to make when i am in the mood for a ch steak. There are so many great places to get them. i have 2 within a mile of my house. I used to work at the yard for a few jobs back in the early 80s. I worked on the USS Forrestal, I was surprised when i saw it in the news recently about John McCain. I was like Hey i worked on that !! Small world.

I cleaned up a couple of barges and worked on a destroyer we were giving to Pakistan. We were welding and pulling cable when they were sleeping 3 to a bunk. They were smiling at us and laughing as sparks would be shooting by their heads. lol I guess they didnt want to give up their bed because someone would snatch it up.

Haha, too funny! Yeah, I went to Hull Maintenance Technician training there to get my Fireman rating. In training we watched videos about the Forrestal, during Viet Nam it took some serious damage and <snip> near burned to the waterline. They had to push aircraft off the deck into the ocean! 

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RGebhard55

I wonder whatever happened to it. What do they do with old ships that get decommissioned ?

lowellm

Quote: Originally posted by RGebhard55 on Oct 14, 2018

I wonder whatever happened to it. What do they do with old ships that get decommissioned ?

They used to scrap them. They said they turned them into razor blades. The Forrestal would sure make a lot of razor blades, lol

wander73's avatarwander73

It I think will go to $700.   The question is this.  If no winning ticket will it go to $800.

Groppo's avatarGroppo

Quote: Originally posted by wander73 on Oct 14, 2018

It I think will go to $700.   The question is this.  If no winning ticket will it go to $800.

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Wander73,   I'm going to guess, if it's not won by Tue.,  then we could see +1.25 billion, on Fri..
I, for one, tell everyone to play, when it gets this high.
I'd like to know that everyone does the same.

We are all just too greedy.
Mr. Groppo

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by RGebhard55 on Oct 14, 2018

I am curious about one thing, Once they take out Fed and State taxes the first time, Do they continue to take them out year after year ? Do they go after the interest it generates in the bank ?

Your curiosity is well founded RG. Look at it this way, the Federal Govt is going after ANY revenue that is generated. In the case of a jackpot win, they come for their cut, which is inescapable. That total is * 37%

When the money " your millions" that you have in the bank generates interest, they interested in that " interest" as well, since it is money " earned."  Hope that helps.

Image result for the flying dutchman<<<The Feds!

weshar75's avatarweshar75

Mega Millions is a slow roller so I think that it will have to not be won to roll past $700 million to Friday night.-weshar75

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Bleudog101

Quote: Originally posted by Groppo on Oct 14, 2018

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Wander73,   I'm going to guess, if it's not won by Tue.,  then we could see +1.25 billion, on Fri..
I, for one, tell everyone to play, when it gets this high.
I'd like to know that everyone does the same.

We are all just too greedy.
Mr. Groppo

Groppo, if not won Tuesday then there's a chance that combining the two lotteries it would come to $1.25 billion.

As for Mega Millions alone, there is no way MUSL would increase it to $1.25 billion by Friday.  Not going to happen.  Now in a month of Fridays--MAYBE. 

maximumfun's avatarmaximumfun

Quote: Originally posted by weshar75 on Oct 15, 2018

Mega Millions is a slow roller so I think that it will have to not be won to roll past $700 million to Friday night.-weshar75

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Hopefullly MM will keep rolling to your 700+ & beyond, that way I can sneak in there and win PB and no one will notice.  :)

lowellm

Quote: Originally posted by maximumfun on Oct 15, 2018

Hopefullly MM will keep rolling to your 700+ & beyond, that way I can sneak in there and win PB and no one will notice.  :)

If the winner can get their ("his/her" is grammatically correct, but I'll use "their" since it sounds less clunky, lol) ducks in a row in time, they can turn in their ticket a couple of days before the election, that way the announcement would be stifled by all the shouting and politicking!

CDanaT's avatarCDanaT

Quote: Originally posted by Original Bey on Oct 15, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcsdSx7NecA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cRNWf1-AmY

This was a follow up to your video and it sounded logical

There was also another follow up to this video and it mentioned claiming via "lottery trust" then creating a"bridge trust" to have access to your funds and protect your identity....Haven't heard of that method/option before...

Choices, choices.... Nice to have options and learn about them

Bleudog101

Quote: Originally posted by Original Bey on Oct 15, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcsdSx7NecA

Cool to watch.  That guy about 1/3 way through, didn't he say he's a millionaire and didn't have to change light bulbs anymore?  I think he was the guy who changed light bulbs in the twin towers in NYC and won I think $5 million.  Always wondered what happened to him.

 

Times certainly have changed.  Folks almost seem to yawn @ these sky high jackpots.  Not me and love the media coverage pre-drawing.

 

Thank you Original Bey for posting this youtube clip.

Bleudog101

Quote: Originally posted by Bleudog101 on Oct 15, 2018

Cool to watch.  That guy about 1/3 way through, didn't he say he's a millionaire and didn't have to change light bulbs anymore?  I think he was the guy who changed light bulbs in the twin towers in NYC and won I think $5 million.  Always wondered what happened to him.

 

Times certainly have changed.  Folks almost seem to yawn @ these sky high jackpots.  Not me and love the media coverage pre-drawing.

 

Thank you Original Bey for posting this youtube clip.

Scrolling through FB and there was Gio in a clip on GMA (today?) talking about MM jackpot.

 

Oh Original Bey...loved that Yolanda Vega was in the first clip.  New York really hit the jackpot on choosing her for that fun job.

Original Bey's avatarOriginal Bey

Quote: Originally posted by Bleudog101 on Oct 15, 2018

Cool to watch.  That guy about 1/3 way through, didn't he say he's a millionaire and didn't have to change light bulbs anymore?  I think he was the guy who changed light bulbs in the twin towers in NYC and won I think $5 million.  Always wondered what happened to him.

 

Times certainly have changed.  Folks almost seem to yawn @ these sky high jackpots.  Not me and love the media coverage pre-drawing.

 

Thank you Original Bey for posting this youtube clip.

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Original Bey's avatarOriginal Bey

Quote: Originally posted by Bleudog101 on Oct 15, 2018

Scrolling through FB and there was Gio in a clip on GMA (today?) talking about MM jackpot.

 

Oh Original Bey...loved that Yolanda Vega was in the first clip.  New York really hit the jackpot on choosing her for that fun job.

She has a wonderful energy as though she herself were the winner. Love that.

Original Bey's avatarOriginal Bey

Quote: Originally posted by CDanaT on Oct 15, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cRNWf1-AmY

This was a follow up to your video and it sounded logical

There was also another follow up to this video and it mentioned claiming via "lottery trust" then creating a"bridge trust" to have access to your funds and protect your identity....Haven't heard of that method/option before...

Choices, choices.... Nice to have options and learn about them

Yes. Amidst all the hype this is a much needed sobering perspective. Some people have played for decades. To win and screw it up would be heartbreaking. I expect that from an occasional player though not an LP member. #FingersCrossed

Bleudog101

Quote: Originally posted by Original Bey on Oct 15, 2018

She has a wonderful energy as though she herself were the winner. Love that.

Looked her up, forgot she's a double nickel baby like me and birthday five days before mine.  WTG Sagittarians!!

Original Bey's avatarOriginal Bey

Quote: Originally posted by Bleudog101 on Oct 15, 2018

Looked her up, forgot she's a double nickel baby like me and birthday five days before mine.  WTG Sagittarians!!

Que rico!

 

December 3rd here!

 

#SagLife

TheMeatman2005's avatarTheMeatman2005

Quote: Originally posted by lowellm on Oct 14, 2018

Nope, they can only take them out for that one year, after that it's yours to keep. You can invest it, or keep it under your mattress and they cannot touch it. But if you invest it, whatever money you make from those investment is taxable. Invest it in conservative stocks that pay dividends, or in mutual funds, and the money it earns will be taxed at the lowest rates.

Or you can invest it in triple tax free municipal bonds. Then there is no tax on any of the interest at all.

Banana

lowellm

Quote: Originally posted by TheMeatman2005 on Oct 15, 2018

Or you can invest it in triple tax free municipal bonds. Then there is no tax on any of the interest at all.

Banana

Yep, that's another strategy... If a fella didn't mind the work involved, he could invest in multi-family apartment buildings. The income is mostly depreciated, and when he sells one of the buildings he can roll the profit into a 1039 exchange and defer the tax bill indefinitely, as long as he invests it into another apartment deal of greater value.

TheMeatman2005's avatarTheMeatman2005

Bleudog101 et al these are are links and videos of the NYS Lottery first $5 mil winners.

Lou Eisenberg and Curtis Sharp.

 

Both of them went broke. Let's not make the same mistakes they made if/when we win!

 

 

 CLICK TO READ                     Once famous lottery winner now broke

 

TheMeatman2005's avatarTheMeatman2005

Quote: Originally posted by Bleudog101 on Oct 15, 2018

Looked her up, forgot she's a double nickel baby like me and birthday five days before mine.  WTG Sagittarians!!

Bleudog101

Quote: Originally posted by TheMeatman2005 on Oct 15, 2018

Bleudog101 et al these are are links and videos of the NYS Lottery first $5 mil winners.

Lou Eisenberg and Curtis Sharp.

 

Both of them went broke. Let's not make the same mistakes they made if/when we win!

 

 

 CLICK TO READ                     Once famous lottery winner now broke

 

Thanks TheMeatman2005; I knew somebody changed light bulbs and he checked his ticket @ the WTC.  Sometimes my brain cells kick in.

Bleudog101

Quote: Originally posted by TheMeatman2005 on Oct 15, 2018

http://www.wicz.com/story/38218089/im-yolanda-vega-lottery-queen-does-more-than-announce-the-numbers

Story on Yolanda Vega

She's a hoot for sure and a huge asset to the New York lottery.  Wonder what her salary is and I'm sure Miguel has long since retired as a police officer.

music*'s avatarmusic*

Quote: Originally posted by Bleudog101 on Oct 15, 2018

Thanks TheMeatman2005; I knew somebody changed light bulbs and he checked his ticket @ the WTC.  Sometimes my brain cells kick in.

I Agree!  Thank You TheMeatman2005.  We should look ahead and think about what our lives will be like thirty years in the future. Especially after winning. 

 Lou Eisenberg and Curtis Sharp have taught me many lessons.

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MsBee18

Quote: Originally posted by Bleudog101 on Oct 15, 2018

She's a hoot for sure and a huge asset to the New York lottery.  Wonder what her salary is and I'm sure Miguel has long since retired as a police officer.

Back in 2007, LP reported that her salary salary is just over $64,000 a year. She's probably in close to six figures now. https://www.lotterypost.com/news/150025

jjtheprince14

No increase yet...no one is buying tickets.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by jjtheprince14 on Oct 15, 2018

No increase yet...no one is buying tickets.

I Agree!

Bleudog101

Quote: Originally posted by jjtheprince14 on Oct 15, 2018

No increase yet...no one is buying tickets.

Are you sure?  I think MUSL would dispute your claim.  The media will no doubt report on one state or another that X number of tickets were sold/minute.

I think that if Powerball wasn't way up there I'd agree with you on slower Megamillions ticket sales.

Seriously doubt they'll up the jackpot.  Why would/should they?

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

I think jj is actually the guy that was known as Baghdad Bob.

Original Bey's avatarOriginal Bey

A lot of players might be plunking down their coins across both games - Powerball and Mega Millions. If MM rolls over and PB is won Wednesday, it will be a wild ride to Friday! Banana

hearsetrax's avatarhearsetrax

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 15, 2018

I think jj is actually the guy that was known as Baghdad Bob.

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MsBee18

Mega Millions are aggressive with their rollovers as of recent. People are buying tickets. I plan to purchase five or 10 lines with Megaplier tomorrow. Mega Million sales typically lag behind PB 2:1 in typical draws. I'm sure PB is stealing a considerable amount from MM considering how high PB is. But an increase of $106 Million from the last MM draw is not too shabby. 

paymentplan-man

Quote: Originally posted by TheMeatman2005 on Oct 15, 2018

Country's most famous lottery winner is now living off his pension, Social Security checks

 

A story about Curtis Sharp

Oh wow "county's most famous". That headline seems a bit over the top. Especially since its a name I've never heard of before nor can I recognize it. When I hear about famous lottery winners it has to be someone who won a lot or did something super crazy. Blowing 5 million (less after taxes) doesn't seem like something that's hard to accomplish. Stupid yes but quite easy.

Original Bey's avatarOriginal Bey

Quote: Originally posted by paymentplan-man on Oct 15, 2018

Oh wow "county's most famous". That headline seems a bit over the top. Especially since its a name I've never heard of before nor can I recognize it. When I hear about famous lottery winners it has to be someone who won a lot or did something super crazy. Blowing 5 million (less after taxes) doesn't seem like something that's hard to accomplish. Stupid yes but quite easy.

Close to 4 decades ago. 5 million in the 80s is nothing to sneeze at by any means,

paymentplan-man

Quote: Originally posted by TheMeatman2005 on Oct 15, 2018

Or you can invest it in triple tax free municipal bonds. Then there is no tax on any of the interest at all.

Banana

The only thing about this is that the amount you get with municipal bonds can easily be beaten. The interest rates are usually the smallest in terms of investing which makes sense, they are after all typically safe and come interest free (as long as they are within your state) For a real time representaion lets say you invest 50million through municipal bonds (10 years) at a interest rate of 3%. That means you make 1.5 million. Then next year you invest 50 million using <insert investment> with a interest rate of 6% which is highly likely depending on said investment. 6% of 50 million is $3 M and if you subtract the taxes 37% plus a average of 5% for state you will make more from your investments (more if not state income tax). This is why your average person wont just use municipal bonds because it's not too hard to beat.

paymentplan-man

Quote: Originally posted by Original Bey on Oct 15, 2018

Close to 4 decades ago. 5 million in the 80s is nothing to sneeze at by any means,

What's the equivalent ...less than 20Million. Sports players, entertainment icons, and trust fund babies have blown through more. Im just saying that compared to people who lost more that title doesn't really fit. Especially since its from a time when a majority of the worlds population was to young to even play the lottery. You can't be the most famous of something when someone has surpassed you by such a large margin. Even back then when the article was made there were lotto winners with 9 figure wins.

lowellm

Quote: Originally posted by paymentplan-man on Oct 15, 2018

The only thing about this is that the amount you get with municipal bonds can easily be beaten. The interest rates are usually the smallest in terms of investing which makes sense, they are after all typically safe and come interest free (as long as they are within your state) For a real time representaion lets say you invest 50million through municipal bonds (10 years) at a interest rate of 3%. That means you make 1.5 million. Then next year you invest 50 million using <insert investment> with a interest rate of 6% which is highly likely depending on said investment. 6% of 50 million is $3 M and if you subtract the taxes 37% plus a average of 5% for state you will make more from your investments (more if not state income tax). This is why your average person wont just use municipal bonds because it's not too hard to beat.

I don't care for bonds of any kind, personally. They are safe, sure, but let's say you invest $50M in bonds @6%, $3M/year minus taxes for the term of the bond. At the end of the term you get your $50M back, only by now $50M isn't worth the same as it was when you invested it due to inflation. Therefore, you weren't really earning $3M/year minus taxes, you were actually spending some of your principal every year as it deflates. I'd rather buy solid dividend paying stocks (General Mills, Procter & Gamble, Johnson & Johnson, Coca Cola, Kraft Heinz, etc...) which pay a nice dividend (4.5% for Gen Mills, for example.) Dividends are taxed as long term capital gains (much lower than earned income) meanwhile the underlying stocks double in value every 8-10 years, thus keeping way ahead of inflation.

paymentplan-man

Quote: Originally posted by lowellm on Oct 15, 2018

I don't care for bonds of any kind, personally. They are safe, sure, but let's say you invest $50M in bonds @6%, $3M/year minus taxes for the term of the bond. At the end of the term you get your $50M back, only by now $50M isn't worth the same as it was when you invested it due to inflation. Therefore, you weren't really earning $3M/year minus taxes, you were actually spending some of your principal every year as it deflates. I'd rather buy solid dividend paying stocks (General Mills, Procter & Gamble, Johnson & Johnson, Coca Cola, Kraft Heinz, etc...) which pay a nice dividend (4.5% for Gen Mills, for example.) Dividends are taxed as long term capital gains (much lower than earned income) meanwhile the underlying stocks double in value every 8-10 years, thus keeping way ahead of inflation.

Uh ......................I never said to invest in bonds. In fact I'm against it. Sooooooooooooooooo not sure if you're replying to me or just making a general comment

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

I hope they both get hit tonight and tomorrow night before the insanity increases.

lowellm

Quote: Originally posted by paymentplan-man on Oct 15, 2018

Uh ......................I never said to invest in bonds. In fact I'm against it. Sooooooooooooooooo not sure if you're replying to me or just making a general comment

Haha, sorry about that. I never meant to imply that you were for or against it. I was just commenting on bonds. But, since I copied your comment I can see why you'd think I was scolding you, lol.

paymentplan-man

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 15, 2018

I hope they both get hit tonight and tomorrow night before the insanity increases.

Yes lawd please. I don't know why people want to see super huge jackpots. Theres a certain point where you reach the "I have more money than I would ever need" category. We have certainly reached that point. Now every draw sets me back 2-10 more bucks. For clarification I only play when the pot gets really big. $450 M +

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