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Lottery petition attacks computerized drawings

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Posted: August 30, 2004, 3:49 pm - IP Logged

What a nice thought. ("stupid move")

I guess you're not going to sign the petition.

 

Check the State Lottery Report Card
What grade did your lottery earn?

 

Sign the Petition for True Lottery Drawings
Help eliminate computerized drawings!

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    Posted: August 30, 2004, 4:39 pm - IP Logged
    Quote: Originally posted by paintbrush on August 30, 2004



    can't believe todd you started this petition balls have no patterns

    or bais were as the computer does produce patterns..like here in calif

    3 and 1 are sticking together..also 0 and 7 this is heavy in our!! favor

    or course the pick 5 and 6 games are 570,000 to 41 million in one

    odds ..we'll never going to hit those games..but are daily games

    we're some of us make good money are going to lose!!!!when you

    bring back complete random drawings...Is this lottery games just

    a hobby for you????if you were playing seriously you would see the

    bais in computer games are to the players advantage.....I hope

    you rethink this stupid move....

     

              good luck chris





    time to do what i do best...ARGUING!

    don't think that the lotteries cannot see what numbers players are playing most often, and don't think that a person cannot control the random number generator.

    I've redone my website.  Go to www.dr-ew.com.  I kept a lot of the old stuff, and I've added some new stuff.  Look for more new stuff in the coming weeks.

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      modesto
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      Posted: August 30, 2004, 7:23 pm - IP Logged

      Doc

              The lottery acts as a broker,they get a set amount of money

      from every dollar bet.Calif takes not more than 16 percent if you  look

      at section 8880.4.Doesn't matter if there is 1 or 1000 winners to them

      they still get there cut and thats all.there's sections that state they can't

      use the money for anything else but education and expenses.So what good is it for them

      to know what numbers people are playing or not.They have 3 STAND ALONE

      computers not hooked up to any data lines in a safe. Under high security,which

      they choose one a day for the draw.There are plenty of people to watch the

      draw to keep everybody honest..You can go there and watch live just call

      ahead of time.Now for the don't think someone can control the random

      drawing...Who knows there's fraud everywhere you look in some form

      or another,But I think the states do there best keeping them honest,the computers aren't just laying around for anybody to get at.and with not

      being hookup to any data  line,It would have to be a inside job and

       most people can't keep a secret so they would get caught..I have been

      playing the lotteries since 1984 and have only heard of one case of fraud

      back east were they drilled holes in the ping pong balls..Heard the director

      of the lottery and people doing the drilling were arrested.I agree with todd

      that the balls are more random then the computer,But you want that edge

      of bais and trends that computer programs produce.If you want balls

      back just buy quick picks,throw out your computer programs, methods and

      what ever quit trying to handicap and check your tickets every once in awhile

      see if you were LUCKY that day.

       good luck chris

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        Posted: August 30, 2004, 8:13 pm - IP Logged

        Even if an RNG is used in a totally honest game, the mere fact that the machine can be compromised in so many different, undetectable and unauditable ways is unacceptable. 

        The Hoosier Lottery, according to their CPA/CISA, downloaded their "RNG" from Lottery.com. Our Lottery Director, John Ross, told one of our state representatives that their own programmers wrote the code. One of them is obviously lying but, either way, how can we play with any degree of confidence, knowing that only one of them is lying?

        Come, Pinky; we must prepare for tomorrow night...

        Jim


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          Posted: August 30, 2004, 8:29 pm - IP Logged

          Games like Quick Draw would have to be eliminated, or the lottery would have to constantly reload the ball machine.

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            modesto
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            hello  jim695

                    If you know this from fact not he said she said.I see your point

            on the big ticket games with millions in the pot I don't have a problem

            with ball only.At 41 million to 1 odds am not going to win anyway,I have

            been playing the same set of pick 6 numbers for almost 20 years..if they come

            they come..I am more concerned with the smaller games pick 5 and 3

            jackpot are smaller and less likely to be comprised.I have been working

            on this method for 6 years now and it only works since they switched

            to the rng.It picks up on the trends and bais's the only problem is finding

            the right filter to reduce the pot lower then 50 which am getting closer

            good luck on finding the truth on your rng origins

             chris

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              Posted: August 30, 2004, 8:55 pm - IP Logged

              Helloo cash only

                      Am leaving for new york saturday,Where's the best pizza

                in manhattan??

               

                Thanks

                      chris

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                Posted: August 30, 2004, 9:08 pm - IP Logged

                paintbrush,

                Systematic corruption of even "smaller" prize games like Pick 3 can result in millions of dollars (collectively) being taken from player's pockets in order to go to the government.  Jim has some great empirical evidence of this from Indiana.

                 

                Check the State Lottery Report Card
                What grade did your lottery earn?

                 

                Sign the Petition for True Lottery Drawings
                Help eliminate computerized drawings!


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                  Posted: August 30, 2004, 9:12 pm - IP Logged

                  Are the balls directed by computer NOW????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

                  Those strange coincidental numbers that make you go "Hmmmmm...." may not be so coincidental.....

                  Food for thought...

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                      Posted: August 31, 2004, 9:06 am - IP Logged

                      I will sign the petition, and continue to play till the lottery goes to computers then I will bow out of the game.  Regardless of the arguments, my opinion is that you can't call it a "random lottery game", when it is a played with a "programmable computer".  and as far as hacking goes, even the military and the government have had problems with there "hack proof" security systems in the past......and I dont see the lottery spending more money on securing the devices than them....

                      "Everybody has to believe in something...I believe I'll have another beer!"   = W.C.Fields                      

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                                                        I'VE BEEN AN AVID LOTTERY PLAYER FOR MANY YEARS, AND  I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY ANY STATE RUN LOTTERY WOULD WANT TO COMPRIMIZE THEIR OWN  INTEGRITY AS WELL AS RUNNING THE RISK OF LOSING REVENUE FROM THEIR OWN PLAYERS, FOR THE SAKE OF CUTTING COST!!!!  I GUESS NO ONE HAS ENOUGH INTESTINAL FORTITUDE TO STAND UP AND SAY "WHATS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE "NOT  ONLY ARE THEY RISKING BEING HACKED INTO, BUT THEY'RE RISKING CUTTING STATE RUN PROGRAMS,  WHICH ARE PROBABLY FUNDED IN PART BY THE LOTTERY!  DON'T THEY REALIZE THAT WHEN YOU GIVE A LITTLE, YOU GET A LOT BACK IN RETURN, OR HAS STUPIDITY OVERRULED INTELLIGENCE. IT'S TIME FOR EVERY LOTTERY PLAYER TO STAND UP AND BE HEARD, BEFORE IGNORANCE RUNS RAMPID, AND PEOPLE GO BACK TO PLAYING THE NUMBERS WITH A BOOKIE. STATES WITH COMPUTORIZED GAMES SHOULD WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!!!!!!!!!!                                                                                                                        MADDOG10  N.J.


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                          Posted: September 3, 2004, 4:00 pm - IP Logged

                          If only lottery players made such a fuss over annuity-only prizes.

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                            We have Cash Option in Texas


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                              Don't forget the Megaplier petition too! www.megaplier.com