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Posted: November 30, 2004, 8:38 pm - IP Logged

 

      H. Schneider has published an interestng book about randomness testng of

    lottery numbers. He tests for divisibility, prime, Fibonacci and Lucas numbers.

    Has anybody used his method and if so, what did you discover? His analysis is based

    52 draws of old 6/49 games and thus a very limited statistic, but lots of filters.

    His book is : "Lottery numbers past, present & future" published in 2001.

    I could find no reference here at LP using the search function.

      Bertil 

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    Bertil,

    I've not read this book, but I'm definitely intrigued by the concept of randomness as it pertains to lotteries. I'm going to try to get hold of the book and take a look at his methods. I'll post something as soon as I've read the book and had time to consider what he offers.

    Good luck,

    aye'

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      Posted: December 2, 2004, 11:12 am - IP Logged

      I'm picking up a copy too.  The more filters the better, then it's just a matter of knowing when to use certain filters.

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        Posted: December 2, 2004, 6:25 pm - IP Logged

        From Amazon:

        http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/1588518809/ref%3Dbr%5Flf%5Fb%5F3/701-8892945-4646754

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          I've also found this one to be very good:

           

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            Posted: December 13, 2004, 10:27 am - IP Logged

            The Schneider book just arrived at work today.  Let me read it and I will get back.

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              A complete waste of money.  My opinion.  He treats the reader like a child, repeating the same thing learned on page 3 on pages 5,7,13,20,25, etc.

              It's simple statistics using the UK Lottery and Florida Lotto 6/49.  For example, he spends half the book dealing with multiples...of 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9, etc.  Ok, so you're saying that 1 out of every 7 numbers drawn should be evenly divisible by 7...fascinating!

              On a positive note I did learn about the Lucas number sequence.  Maybe these analyses would be helpful to plug into a formula or program, but it's not rocket science.

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                Posted: December 18, 2004, 2:19 pm - IP Logged

                Thanks for the review.

                 

                Check the State Lottery Report Card
                What grade did your lottery earn?

                 

                Sign the Petition for True Lottery Drawings
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                  Posted: December 18, 2004, 6:23 pm - IP Logged
                  Quote: Originally posted by JAG331 on December 18, 2004



                  A complete waste of money.  My opinion.  He treats the reader like a child, repeating the same thing learned on page 3 on pages 5,7,13,20,25, etc.

                  It's simple statistics using the UK Lottery and Florida Lotto 6/49.  For example, he spends half the book dealing with multiples...of 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9, etc.  Ok, so you're saying that 1 out of every 7 numbers drawn should be evenly divisible by 7...fascinating!

                  On a positive note I did learn about the Lucas number sequence.  Maybe these analyses would be helpful to plug into a formula or program, but it's not rocket science.





                            Jag's analysis of Schneider's book strikes me as unfair. S does not rule out any number

                            divisable by 2 to 24. He only suggests that you should not have more than three of each kind

                            in your selection. His treatment of total sum and standard deviation  is mathematically weak.

                            He failed to set a range such as two std.dev. for each variable, or limit the selections to 95%.

                            His most startling comment is on p.6 where he claims some mathematicians do not agree that

                            statistics apply to lotteries. Does anybody know what or who he is refering to? I've been unable

                            to get an answer from him to the above questions.

                            Bertil

                   

                                                                                                     

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                    Posted: December 21, 2004, 5:15 pm - IP Logged

                    Hi,

                    Im working on many filters and i use relations like < > = >= <= + * - mod but there are two thinks i dont think im gonna use:


                    • Fibbonacci Series: Computers have resource problems working with Fibbonacci numbers, specially mine. They eat up too many resurces. And cant calculate big numbers.

                    • Divisibility: Computers have problems dividing by zero, which happens to be one of the pick-3 possible digits....

                    I dont know about the Lucas theory, so no opinion on that.

                    In short... i wont try it in my system, they will cause more headache than the one i have already.

                    You can follow my work here:

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/103083

                    Hope it helps a little. See you.