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You might want to give some thought to the kind of universe your belief system implies.  I tried to take it up with my fairy godmother, but she only works part time and has been out sick alot.  BobP

That's exactly why number crunching doesn't work!

I play to dream and dream of winning a major jackpot!

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      Quote: Originally posted by rabbitfoot on December 24, 2004



      Let me get this straight: You're saying every combination doesn't have an equal chance of being drawn?  That system selected combinations have less of a chance to win then a LUCKY guess?  Is that because the guess was "LUCKY" or was luckier because it was a guess?  Maybe you could post some example combinations that can't win.  BobP

      I can't do it because no one knows when Lady Luck is going to tap you on the shoulder. And, when she does it doen't matter how you picked your numbers. So, all I can say is keep crunching your numbers and hope that someday they come up. In the mean time, I'll keep playing my favorite numbers & QP's.  The winner will be who ever wins the big one first.  Let' just hope it happens to one of us before we're to old to spend the money.







      rabbitfoot,

      I'm surprised you didn't take BobP up on his request by posting some MegaMillions combinations.  The odds of matching 5 even without the mega ball is 1:2,649,920 so the odd of never matching 5 is 2,649,920:1. You could have picked 10 lines and had a good chance of never being proved wrong.  You must not trust lady luck even with those kinds of odds on your side.

      RJOh

       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
         
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        "You must not trust lady luck even with those kinds of odds on your side."

        I only have two outcomes:  I either win or I lose.  Numbers crunchers can't grash this simple fact.  So what the purpose of listing nonsense lines of numbers? 

        I play to dream and dream of winning a major jackpot!

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          Quote: Originally posted by rabbitfoot on December 24, 2004



          Reply: RJOh

          "You must not trust lady luck even with those kinds of odds on your side."

          I only have two outcomes:  I either win or I lose.  Numbers crunchers can't grash this simple fact.  So what the purpose of listing nonsense lines of numbers? 




          Ah, the principle of insufficient reason.  Shows the problem with assuming a minimum and maximum quanity value meet in the middle. BobP
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            Quote: Originally posted by rabbitfoot on December 24, 2004



            I either win or I lose.....So what the purpose of.....lines of numbers? 







            You make it sound like you have a 50:50 chance of winning/losing a lottery.

            RJOh

             

             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
               
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              Quote: Originally posted by ayenowitall on December 22, 2004

              Quote: Originally posted by rabbitfoot on December 21, 2004

              ______________________________________________

              Well, people come to websites like this for entertainment mostly. Some think that they know something and wish to share it with others. And, I believe there are lotto players grasping for that "magical system" that's going to win them the lotto. And, And I am trying to enlighten them to the fact that there isn't one - period!______________________________________________

              rabbitfoot,

              You really didn't have to answer; as I said, the question was purely rhetorical. You did an excellent job of demonstrating my point though. The reasons you gave (including your own personal reason) are the very same reasons that people might go to a convention or seminar for lottery players.

              We can all learn and profit as lottery players if we are mature enough to keep our eyes and minds open in the exchange of information and ideas. Even a person who doesn't believe in systems or strategies per se can benefit from a more thorough knowledge of the games. Also, sound money management principles are critical for anyone who engages in any type of wagering. Simply playing the lottery by buying Quick Picks can be done sensibly and strategically, or it can be done with ignorance and reckless abandon. By the way, even those Quick Picks are generated from a program based on somebody's ideas about randomness.

              Nobody has all the answers or a complete grasp of everything about the lotteries. I'm sure that some people have learned from your posts whenever you've made material contributions. You might also learn some things from the posts of others if you open yourself to that possibility.

              Good luck,

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              i would go to a convention not to learn a new system or how to invest my money once i won. the biggest kick i would get would be that there was a room of several people like me who loved playing the lottery. not be ribbed by family and coworkers for playing the lottery. let them have their las vegas and atlantic cities or betting on the horses. i will stick to playing 5 and 6+ lotto games. just to sit and listen to another tell their stories in person would be a blast. i am so good at losing i get a thrill when i get a hit over 50 dollars. so through out the schemes and the investment plans. i would just like to meet others who have the same interest.



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                To BobP

                I gave you those 236 thou+ combos that couldn't win which you asked to see.  Did that help you out?  I have all kinds of combos for each PB that don't include the 5# winning combo.  My problem is-let me correct that, my huge problem is-let me correct that, my monumentally huge problem is, I'M NOT A CRYPTOGRAPHER.  The lottery pundit who has the best chance of breaking the number code that leads to a jackpot is going to have to be a cryptographer.  I don't think there's any reasonable argument against that.  Jag tried to help me out by recommending I contact a cryptographeroligist but I've been unable to find such a medical specialist.  Well, I'm in a hurry.  I've to go over thousands and thousands of combos to eliminate the non-winning combos, one by one...and that's a pretty big job.

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                  Starchild_45 -

                  You're absolutely correct - I do that with the live pinochle tournaments I play in, attach a face to all those nice people with whom I play on line.

                  gl

                  john

                  Blessed Saint Leibowitz, keep 'em dreamin' down there..... 

                  Next week's convention for Psychics and Prognosticators has been cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances.

                   =^.^=

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                    Quote: Originally posted by pigskin on December 26, 2004




                    To BobP

                    I gave you those 236 thou+ combos that couldn't win which you asked to see.  Did that help you out?  I have all kinds of combos for each PB that don't include the 5# winning combo.  My problem is-let me correct that, my huge problem is-let me correct that, my monumentally huge problem is, I'M NOT A CRYPTOGRAPHER.  The lottery pundit who has the best chance of breaking the number code that leads to a jackpot is going to have to be a cryptographer.  I don't think there's any reasonable argument against that.  Jag tried to help me out by recommending I contact a cryptographeroligist but I've been unable to find such a medical specialist.  Well, I'm in a hurry.  I've to go over thousands and thousands of combos to eliminate the non-winning combos, one by one...and that's a pretty big job.





                    All combinations have an equal chance of winning over time, that's why I asked Rabbitfoot to show me some that can't win or the means to produce combinations that can't win, because he can't.

                    If you sent me 236 thousand of anything I hope it bounced off my mail box, and no I don't think that would have helped me.

                    It isn't practical to cross of the combinations that you don't think will win and the gross filter software most of us have is not the way to go.  If there are ten filters the odds are you will get one or more wrong and blow your chance. 

                    Even with the filters dead on we're still talking about selecting a couple of dozen combinations out of the tens of thousands that have passed all the filters, lots-o-luck.

                    I'm afraid the only way to win is to study the draw history and hand build combinations using the hints and clues you gleam.  Though I would recommend you make it a point to play all the numbers.  Just the other day I eliminated 12 and 4 winning numbers were among that 12 I should have played a couple of more lines and picked up an easy little win.

                    Oh well, at least none of the big shot experts have won a jackpot for themselves either.

                    btw: A cryptographeroligist is a code breaker. If the lottery were a code it would have been broken by now.  There is no formula, well actually there is, but it would be different for every draw and as hard to predict in advance as the drawing itself. 

                    I would suggest you consult a pro-active phrenologist. 

                    The winning PB numbers were 29-32-39-45-53 (16) four of them are numbers you said wouldn't hit.   

                    BobP


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                      To Bobp.....One thing I have made it a rule to do is to pay attention going through life.  You asked for some sample combos that couldn't hit.  Thats what I gave, 236 thou of them.  I didn't say the #s I gave you wouln't hit...just the combos as you requested,  And in my last count, only 3 of the numbers hit, not 4.as you reported. Please do not say that I said the numbers would not hit.  And you said that if there was a code that it would have been broken by now.  Can you prove that.  Can you have me put into contact with a person or persons who have attempted to try to broken the code.

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                        Ah, the principle of insufficient reason.  Shows the problem with assuming a minimum and maximum quanity value meet in the middle. BobP

                        I'm sure the above reply must have something to do with number crunching but i don't understand the statement.

                        I play to dream and dream of winning a major jackpot!

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                          Let me get this straight: You're saying every combination doesn't have an equal chance of being drawn?  That system selected combinations have less of a chance to win then a LUCKY guess?  Is that because the guess was "LUCKY" or was luckier because it was a guess?  Maybe you could post some example combinations that can't win.  BobP

                          Are you asking me to crunch numbers?  Why did you let the MegaMillion jackpot grow to $48-million if your system has any merit?  Why aren't you knocking off 2nd place winnings of $175,000 in the MegaMillion?  These questions also apply to the Powerball game.  With your number crunching abilities, you should be racking in 2nd place pots of $500,000 by not only picking the numbers but the multiplier too.

                          Just think, if you're so sure of your system, you could play your numbers several times over in the same drawing and knock down a fortune. But for me, I have too rely on LADY LUCK.

                          I play to dream and dream of winning a major jackpot!

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                            Quote: Originally posted by pigskin on December 28, 2004


                            To Bobp.....One thing I have made it a rule to do is to pay attention going through life.  You asked for some sample combos that couldn't hit.  Thats what I gave, 236 thou of them.  I didn't say the #s I gave you wouln't hit...just the combos as you requested,  And in my last count, only 3 of the numbers hit, not 4.as you reported. Please do not say that I said the numbers would not hit.  And you said that if there was a code that it would have been broken by now.  Can you prove that.  Can you have me put into contact with a person or persons who have attempted to try to broken the code.


                            The numbers you gave to make up the non winning combinations (not exactly what I asked for) were . . .


                            2,3,4,5,8,9,10,11,14,16,18,19,37,34,38,39,40,43,45,48,49,50,51,13,20,
                            22,23,13,24,26,29,31 and 47.

                            Winning numbers were 29-32-39-45-53 (16) of these I see on your list the 29, 39, 45, and 16.  I suppose you don't want to count the 16. Point is the numbers produced a paying win only one draw down the road, what about the next ten years?

                            Once a draw is over, it is simple enough to preform an autopsy on it to see what gross aspects it conforms to.  You now know everything there is to know about the correct answer to the draw, how many odd and even numbers, low and high numbers, range from lowest to highest numbers, last digits, sequential, etc.  get a copy of Lotto Architect if you want to work this route.

                            In the same sense, you can take the previous draw and work out a simple formula like so many numbers up or down from the prior draw's numbers to the next draw's numbers, that would have been the secret code if only there was a way to know it in advance.

                            Every month Steve Player sends out a flyer saying he has broken the code, why not ask him.

                            I doubt there is anyone making a serious attempt at breaking the lottery as a code would be broken, because with a code there has to be a underlying message to be found. 

                            Lottery software authors have applied almost everything in the tool box from mystic to AI and do not win jackpots as the result. 

                            Remember, numbers don't exist on their own, they are supposed to be a measurement of something.  The lottery numbers have no connection to anything outside themselves we can track to base our predictions on. 

                            BobP



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                              Quote: Originally posted by rabbitfoot on December 28, 2004



                              Ah, the principle of insufficient reason.  Shows the problem with assuming a minimum and maximum quanity value meet in the middle. BobP

                              I'm sure the above reply must have something to do with number crunching but i don't understand the statement.




                              You implied because you could either win or lose the odds were 50/50.
                              The two outcomes have different odds of occurring.  BobP