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Posted: December 25, 2004, 4:14 am - IP Logged

Maverick:

Okay, that's it; I give up.

I never thought I'd see the day, but you've stumped me with that one. You've obviously put a lot of thought into this, so what would it take to get you to move to sunny Indiana and become our lottery director???

Come, Pinky; we must prepare for tomorrow night...

Jim

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    Posted: December 25, 2004, 4:37 am - IP Logged

    lol,i got lost somewhere in the translation.......if we could maverick down to indiana to grill them with these questions he'd be a hero!

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      Posted: December 25, 2004, 6:45 am - IP Logged
      Quote: Originally posted by Maverick on December 24, 2004


       So far, the only minor potential problem that I can think of is if the winning jackpot ticket goes unclaimed for 2-4 weeks or longer, what happens to the rollover factor, since the lottery office would not immediately know if there is a winning jackpot ticket. I'm sensing that would not be a problem at all.



      Maverick,

      It seems to me that would indeed be quite a problem. Since lottery sales go right on, how would players know how much they're playing for if nobody knew for sure whether a jackpot had been hit? How would lottery officials know what size jackpot to advertise?  What if a jackpot were claimed in a subsequent drawing before a previous drawing winner had come forward? How would they know how much to pay out? Maybe I'm missing something about what you're saying. Please clarify.

      Good luck,

      aye'

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        Posted: December 25, 2004, 3:36 pm - IP Logged

        all the info is right there in the lottery database at lottery headquarters.they know seconds after the drawing whether or not a jackpot has been hit whether or it is unclaimed or not...same goes for powerball........they have it setup to where these kind of mistakes don't happen......


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          Posted: December 26, 2004, 5:51 am - IP Logged

          if you preset the liability on any game you are cheating. a game is supposed to be a game and if you preset the amount you decide you want to payout to the public then its no longer a game and if thats being done anywhere then those states should not have lottery games to begin with.

          if someone goes and buys a ticket and the playslip is rejected for liability purposes then this is cheating.

          who is to say whether or not you can win? if it breaks their bank thats their problem. if they dont have the money to payout then they dont need a game to run.

          and this makes me wonder whether or not they can misuse the liability limit clause by rejecting all tickets except one for a certain number set?

          what are your thoughts on this?

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            Posted: December 27, 2004, 1:25 am - IP Logged

            southwind, I'm not sure if I understand what you mean. Sorry.

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              i think what he is trying to say is what if they start rejecting large sets of numbers that way it would be harder for players to play a certain set of numbers and therefore decrease the chances of winning.......

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                Posted: December 27, 2004, 4:16 pm - IP Logged

                  If the lotteries did not have liability limits, then all online games would be pari-mutuel.  Even Powerball and Mega Millions have prize liability limits; they're just so huge that it's unlikely they'll ever bust (Mega Millions limits total prize liability for a drawing to the lower of 300% of sales or 50% of sales + $50 million).


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                  Posted: December 27, 2004, 7:27 pm - IP Logged

                  then thats cheating the public.


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                    Posted: December 27, 2004, 7:42 pm - IP Logged

                    recoding the combinations played is invasion of privacy and cheating. all thats needed is a encrypted serial number placed with each ticket to validate that ticket. you can call any vendor who manufactures any rng or ball machine to verify this. recording numbes played is not needed for security reasons at all. the tickets themselves are made of certain fibers and have hidden words and stuff within the entire ticket fibers. the machine pint head also is a special print head which is made for lottery vendors as well a thier clientel only. the ink upon the playsip has its own seperate dna as opposed to ink purchased in any retail facility. if the lottery security is as good as they claim it supposed t be then there is no need to record the numbers played . as far as i can understand the security of any state lottery is phenominal itself, so why should tey question thier own security by recordingyour personal numbrs and violate your privacy?


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                      Posted: December 27, 2004, 7:45 pm - IP Logged

                      if you are in doubt of this and you have acanner at home you cn scan your ticket and magnify it and see for yourself. toodles

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                        Posted: December 27, 2004, 7:49 pm - IP Logged

                        southwind, that's exactly what sparked my questioning thread. I totally agree with you. However, it's the rollover factor that is so far the only logical reason for them to record the number combinations (for Pick 6 games and also maybe Pick 10 games). If there is a solution for that, I'd love to hear about it.

                        Thank you for your input.


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                          Posted: December 27, 2004, 8:08 pm - IP Logged

                          no problem. ive scanned my tickets for ten years and i see all types of info dmbedded within the fibers you cant see with the naked eye. i also have used a counterfeit pen as used in retail facilities for money and the tickets come out asgenuine. i really dont understand why so many members here are ignoring your question or flapping off about security and the necessity for recording your personal numbers. maybe they dont feel that the numbers they have purchased are personal but i do. it doesnt say any where on the ticket that the ticket must be surrendered upon demand like a credit card. and if wasnt a sneaky thing on the state lottery part they would advise you that your numbers are recorded . i dot remember reading any where on any of my tickets anything saying that my numbers are being recorded in some database. and for those who say its to deter those who would make fake tickets well the lottery would laugh them out of the payout office as those bums would be led into a jail. so, you cant fake a ticket. even with your own retail machine from the state lottery.