CALIFORNIA JOINS MEGA MILLIONS

Feb 8, 2005, 5:51 pm (61 comments)

Mega Millions

Updated: Feb.8, 2005, 6:11pm

The California Lottery Commission today approved the California Lottery joining the multi-state lottery game Mega Millions.

The Commission voted 3-0 Tuesday to approve the move.

"We are excited to enter into this partnership and look forward to providing our players with what they have asked for, jackpots in the $200-$300 million range," says Chon Gutierrez, interim lottery director, in a written statement.

California has been considering joining a multi-state lottery game for more than a year in an effort to whet gamblers' interest in buying lottery tickets.

Officials say they picked Mega Millions because there will be more frequent big jackpots including a greater probability of jackpots greater than $200 million. Also, there will be a better chance of increasing Lottery sales because joining the game would double the number of days with a big jackpot game, they say. Mega Millions' drawings are on Tuesdays and Thursdays; the California Lottery will continue to hold its own drawings on Wednesdays and Saturdays.

In addition to California, states participating are New York, Texas, Ohio, Georgia, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, New Jersey, Virginia and Washington.

Mega Millions' highest jackpot occurred in May 2002 when it reached $363 million. In comparison, the California Lottery's highest jackpot to date has been $193 million.







California Lottery Multi-State Game Recommendation

Highlights

Joining a multi-state game is good for California, good for Lottery players and good for the California State Lottery.

The Lottery has been successful for the State of California we have seen the highest sales ever in the past 4 years.


  • 2004 was the biggest year ever with $2.97 billion in total sales.

When compared with other states, however, California is only ranked fifth in the nation in total sales even though we have the largest population. We know we can do even better.


  • NY is #1 with nearly $6 billion in sales.

  • MA is #2 with more than $4 billion in sales.

Every business knows that to stay competitive you must create fresh and exciting products, especially in the entertainment business.


  • Soft drinks do it there are any number of Pepsi products offered to the consumer no longer just Pepsi.

  • In 1985, there were 370 new feature films released. In 2004, there were 459 24% increase.

  • The same thing has happened in television. In 1990, we had the choice of 60 stations through cable or satellite and now you can get more than 250 stations through cable or satellite.

Now is the right time to review our product offering.


  • The Lottery has not launched a new game since Daily Derby®, in 1998.

  • There hasnt been any major change to the existing games since SuperLOTTO Plus®, in 2000.

  • SuperLOTTO Plus is a mature product and the most popular Lottery game.

Multi-state lotteries have become a best practice in lottery states.


  • Today only California and Florida are not participants in a multi-state game.

  • More people play when jackpots are larger.

  • Jackpots can reach more than $100 and $200 million several times each year.

The multi-state lottery game that best meets the needs of California will be recommended to the Lottery Commission.

Questions & Answers

What is a multi-state lottery game?


  • Multi-state lottery games are a result of more than one state participating in the same lotto type game. There are currently two major multi-state games in the country: Powerball (27 member states, plus District of Columbia and the Virgin Islands) and Mega Millions (11 member states).

Why is California joining a multi-state game?


  • Even though the Lottery just had its best sales year ever, it can still do better, and joining a multi-state game is one way to do this.

  • The Lottery has not launched a new game since 1998. A multi-state game will give Lottery players more choices and create excitement by generating more large jackpots.

  • California and Florida are the only two lottery states that have not joined a multi-state game.

  • The Lottery anticipates that a multi-state game will increase total sales by around $500 million a year.

  • Joining a multi-state game will offer a fresh and exciting new game to Lottery players.

How will I play the multi-state game?


  • The multi-state game will be available at all current Lottery retailer locations and costs $1 per play. Both major multi-state games are similar to SuperLOTTO Plus (a player chooses 5 numbers from one field and one number from another with nine ways to win a cash prize.) Like SuperLOTTO Plus, there will be two draws per week.

  • The winning numbers will be available at all Lottery retailer locations, on the Lotterys website, at the winning number hotline, and in major newspapers.

  • Winning tickets will be cashed the same way as SuperLOTTO Plus. Players will have a choice of receiving the jackpot in one lump sum or in graduated annual payments.

What did the Lottery consider in recommending which multi-state game to join?


  • One of the ways the Lottery weighed which game would be the best fit for California was by comparing the expected number of big jackpots from both major multi-state games.

  • The Lottery also looked at which of the two major multi-state games would best allow SuperLOTTO Plus to continue to being a flag ship product.

Who makes the final decision on which multi-state game California joins?


  • The California Lottery Commission is authorized to make this decision. The California Lottery Commission is comprised of 5 members who are appointed by the Governor and confirmed by the Senate.

Where does the money from the multi-state game go?


  • All of the money wagered on a multi-state game stays in California. Players in other states cannot cash their winning tickets in California. Currently, 32-33 cents goes to funding the multi-state jackpot, from each of the membership states. As with other California Lottery games, at least 50% of revenues will be returned to prizes and 34% will to be transferred to our beneficiary.

Will SuperLOTTO Plus continue to be available? If so, what affect will joining a multi-state game have on it?


  • Yes, we do not anticipate any changes to SuperLOTTO Plus at this time. All other Lottery draw games will also continue to be available, i.e., Fantasy 5, Daily 3, Hot Spot® and Daily Derby®.

When will a multi-state game be available in California?


  • If the Lottery Commission approves joining a multi-state game, the Lottery will aggressively pursue the necessary system modifications to implement the game as quickly and efficiently as possible. The actual implementation date has yet to be determined.

What are the odds of winning a prize in a multi-state game?


  • The overall odds of winning any prize in Mega Millions currently are 1 43 and the odds of winning the jackpot are 1 in 135 million. The overall odds of winning any prize in Powerball currently are 1 36 and the odds of winning the jackpot are 1 in 120 million.

Will the prize payouts in California be the same as they are in other states that participate in multi-state games?


  • The payouts for all prizes except the Jackpot will differ for California than the other states. Other states may offer fixed prizes, but in California, all prizes must be pari-mutuel, meaning they will be based on sales and the number of winners, as with other Lottery draw games.

CA Lottery Fact Sheet

California State Lottery History


  • On November 6, 1984, 58% of California's voters approved Proposition 37, the California State Lottery Act. The Act provides that at least 34% of the Lottery revenues go to public education. This supplemental funding provides schools with additional resources to meet their locally determined needs.

  • The Lottery offers its players a choice of six different types of games: SuperLOTTO Plus®, Fantasy 5, Hot Spot®, Daily Derby®, Daily 3, and Scratchers® tickets.

19-Year Financial History


  • Over $43 billion in sales earned.

  • Over $21 billion in prizes won.

  • $2.7 billion given to retailers in bonus.

  • 1,776 players have won prizes of $1 million or more.

SuperLOTTO Plus Statistics


  • Odds of winning the SuperLOTTO Plus jackpot are 1 in 41 million, with Jackpots starting at $7 million.

  • The SuperLOTTO Plus draws occur Wednesdays and Saturdays at 7:58 pm.

  • The largest California jackpot ever was $193 million on February 16, 2002, split by three winning tickets bought in Half Moon Bay, Montebello and Orange.

  • The second largest jackpot was $141 million on June 23, 2001, won by a player in San Jose, California. At the same time he also became the largest individual prizewinner in California Lottery history.

Retailer Information


  • There are more than 18,000 Lottery retailers in California.

  • Retailers receive a bonus of ½ of 1% for selling a winning SuperLOTTO Plus 6/6 ticket, a Fantasy 5 top prize winning ticket and anyone who spins The Big Spin prize wheel.

Lottery Post Staff

Comments

MADDOG10's avatarMADDOG10

 welcome aboard california...!

lchoro

Wonder how this will impact Lotto South.  I think they would find that they need to sign on additional states in order to maintain the interest.

hosni

That certainly is good news. Now if only we could get them to start Pick-4 game.

          Platinum John in sunny Escondido,  CA

Todd's avatarTodd

Congratulations California!!!

DoctorEw220's avatarDoctorEw220

i knew it. i told you Ca would be going with mega millions and not powerball.

DoctorEw220's avatarDoctorEw220

now for CA to get out of the MUSL.

Calscorp's avatarCalscorp

A new game, even though we didn't get Powerball. I look forward to playing. And I agree about Pick4; sure wish they would let us have that one.

smd173

Ah...it'll only be another 10 years or so until we are all playing Mega Powerball Millions anyway.

starchild_45's avatarstarchild_45

congratulations cali for joining the megamillion. just one more place to get the megamillion ticket on the west coast. look at it this way cali wants more people to come from oregon and arizonia to play megamillon (oregon and arizonia are powerball states.) my cali tickets are still good until march. he he he he.

Bradly_60's avatarBradly_60

Did you guys see what they are doing too.  California will be the first state to join a multi-state game and have different payouts for lower tier prizes.  By law California has to have para-mutual prizes.  So they are not going to have the same amounts that we are so used to.  Thats odd.  I think California need to do some law changing. 

Brad

four4me

because they have such a large population. Could you imagin like upwards of 2500 people match 5 balls and not the mega ball and 200,000 match 4 balls and 1.5mil match 3 balls and 2 mil match 1 ball plus the mega ball or any other high yeild max amount of people  macth. The payout would overwhelm the take in and the mega mill in california would fall apart. Thats why they have a par mutual game structure.

qutgnt

They would have to have a population the size of China to have winners like that, seriously.

four4me

think so suppose the drew 10 20 30 40 50

Todd's avatarTodd
Quote: Originally posted by four4me on February 9, 2005


because they have such a large population. Could you imagin like upwards of 2500 people match 5 balls and not the mega ball and 200,000 match 4 balls and 1.5mil match 3 balls and 2 mil match 1 ball plus the mega ball or any other high yeild max amount of people  macth. The payout would overwhelm the take in and the mega mill in california would fall apart. Thats why they have a par mutual game structure.


Hey, if you want to conduct business in the gambling industry, you need to take some risks.  It all balances out in the end anyway.  I don't think the lottery would go broke by offering fixed payments.  Not even close.
Todd's avatarTodd

By the way, only Lottery Post offered the information about the prize payments in its news story.  I have not seen one other news story anywhere that printed this information.

four4me
Look Todd the last person I want to debate with is you about this, anything can happen at any time. There are literally thousands of people who fill out there play slips with numbers that could break the bank so to speak> Like 5 10 15 20 25 and any combination there of. Maybe it wouldn't cause it to go broke but the possibility exists for it to be pushed to it's limit. With millions of potential like numbers being bet and hitting. Just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it won't. 

 

Congratulations for being the first to post the latest breaking lottery news story.
dvdiva's avatardvdiva

They told us 400 million jackpots when WA state joined. What a load of you know what. It is neat that Lottery post is the first to get any real info on this.

I really hope they change the game now or it will never get a decent jackpot.

Calscorp's avatarCalscorp

The article was very interesting. And the part about the pay-out was one of the first things that stood out for me. I don't care for that part but we are used to to it with all the other games.

 

So, thanks Todd for the real info that we won't be seeing anywhere else.

visiondude's avatarvisiondude

  i feel a little bitter about moving back to california from georgia now  (jk)

  how long before the first tix are sold do you think?

  vision

dvdiva's avatardvdiva

Hey welcome back to regular posting Vision. It will probably happen after mega finally goes up to 300. You could always drive up north to washington though, since there is no income tax yet (until the dead vote for it)

visiondude's avatarvisiondude

thanx diva.

everytime i see your screename "diva",  i immediately get a visual of debra wilson on MAD TV doing an impersonation of witney huston where she throws up her arms and yells "DIVAAAAAAAAAAA".  makes me laugh everytime.

washington would be a long drive for tix,  but saving several million dead benjamins  in tax on a big jackpot win just about makes sense.

when i lived in georgia i used to drive to the south carolina border for powerball tix when the "jack"  got juicy.  but that was a 1 1/2 hours drive instead of 1 1/2 days (lol).

dumb question #1;  doesn't a person who wins in washington, have to actually be a "resident" of washington in order to qualify for that juicy no tax bennie?  i suppose i could throw a tent down next to "bills" place on lake washington if i had to.  wouldn't be a bad place to pull "duty" for 6 months...

20/20

st.germain's avatarst.germain
Quote: Originally posted by four4me on February 9, 2005



Look Todd the last person I want to debate with is you about this, anything can happen at any time. There are literally thousands of people who fill out there play slips with numbers that could break the bank so to speak> Like 5 10 15 20 25 and any combination there of. Maybe it wouldn't cause it to go broke but the possibility exists for it to be pushed to it's limit. With millions of potential like numbers being bet and hitting. Just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it won't. 

 

Congratulations for being the first to post the latest breaking lottery news story.




        Remember , when on the east coast...somewhere ..when 13 people hit the jackpot...I think the winning numbers where  33  34  35  36  37      or something like that.  It was just this past late summer.

                                                                           

tg636

Either jackpots will be huge, or there will be so many tickets sold jackpots will be won before they can get huge. We will see.   

mrmst's avatarmrmst

I think we will see jackpots grow faster, but if California kicks in with big sales I also think it will mean the jackpot will not roll as often and we will not see the $100 million jackpots very often at all.  If that continues for very long, I'm sure Mega Millions will change the matrix to make the odds longer.  I guess that would be ok, I like the excitement that is generated by a big jackpot.

Todd's avatarTodd

My predictions are that MM will raise the minimum jackpot, the jackpots will grow much faster, the jackpots will definitely get into the $100 million range as often as they do today, and they will not be forced to make changes to the game's matrix.

But I guess no one knows for sure until it happens!

Bradly_60's avatarBradly_60

With the whole paramutual debate.....it is stated in the Mega Millions rules now that they will not pay our more than 300% of sales or more than $50,000,000 more than sales which ever is greater (or is it less)  So yeah if those numbers did come up they would end up being para-mutual anyway.  But I mean California even has there Pick 3 as para-mutual.  What is up with that.  They are the biggest state but only fifth overall.  It must be not a lot of people play the lottery over on the west coast.  Michigan has more winners in their pick 3 than does California and they have over 3 times the population.

Brad

Todd's avatarTodd

Brad:  I agree with you.  I am not a fan of pari-mutuel payouts on lottery wins.

qutgnt

For every huge payday there are probably hundreds of times they dont pay out anywhere near what they should. When the mega has number drawn in 30's and 40's you see barely any 5 out of 5 payouts.  Even last nite had a lot of low numbers and how many 5 out of 5 payout were there?  When you only pay 50% out of sales you dont ever need to worry about parimutuel in the long run.

whodeani's avatarwhodeani

Of the big four, (California, Texas, Florida, and New York) Florida is now the only state that doesn't have a multi-state lottery game with large jackpots. I wonder when Florida will get in on the Powerball or Mega Millions bandwagon.

kcman777

Just a thought ... With California joining the Mega-Millions... there will more winning combinations played ... Do you really think jackpots will really get as hight as 100+ Million ?  With the inclusion of California  .. I think it would be a rare case if the jackpot now got as high as 70 Million.

Calscorp's avatarCalscorp

With the superlotto, a lot of people don't even play until a jackpot gets big. A new game... there will be a lot of interest in trying it. Big jackpots... it will be awesome. Huge ticket sales out here in Cali. I hope we see some winners from here. I do wish they would get rid of of the para-mutual somewhere down the line, so we would be where everyone else is with wins. I don't know when we will actually start the game... hope it will be soon.  But I am excited about the idea of playing a new game.  Good luck to everyone who plays the game. Especially, the people from LP. 

bobby623's avatarbobby623

 

Don't know the source of her information, but Dawn Nettles of lottoreport.com says MM officials discussed a maxtrix change to 5/63 & 1/24 or 5/71 & 1/17 in order to get California on board.

Don't think players in other states would go along with either one of those matrix changes!!

Does anyone in California know what was agreed to?

Todd's avatarTodd
Quote: Originally posted by kcman777 on February 9, 2005


Just a thought ... With California joining the Mega-Millions... there will more winning combinations played ... Do you really think jackpots will really get as hight as 100+ Million ?  With the inclusion of California  .. I think it would be a rare case if the jackpot now got as high as 70 Million.



Don't worry, the jackpots will still frequently go over $100 million.  In fact, they will most likely do it more often than they used to.  The jackpot will also get hit when it's low from time to time, just as it does now.

tg636

What is the jackpot amount that starts a "jackpot frenzy"? $200 million? If they increased the odds I would go from the MA season ticket I have now to only getting a ticket when the jackpot was $200 million or more.

I would be happy if the minimum jackpot was won every drawing.

CASH Only

I have a scientific calculator (10-digit display)  and will figure out the jackpot odds for both sets of matrices after I get home.

BTW, Hot Lotto has only 19 Hot Balls (5/39+1/19).

JimmySand9

I don't really think a change is necessary. The most I would suggest is add one white ball and subtract one MegaBall making it 5/53+1/51.

Bradly_60's avatarBradly_60

Here are some odds:

5 X 63 and 1 X 24  = 1 in 168,692,328  Thats just an increase of about 30 million

    (Could work because you could match the mega ball more often)

5 x 53 and 1 x 51 = 1 in 146,353935

5 X 55 and 1 X 55 = 191,331,855

I would prefer them to raise the 5 number matrix and lower the Mega Ball matrix.

Brad

whodeani's avatarwhodeani

The other matrix suggested is 5/71 + 1/17 which would be 1:221,338,450 odds. That is way too high in my opinion. The lower tier prizes would have to be very appealing to warrant odds like that.

CASH Only

who:

The 5/71 + 1/17 version might have a 2+0 prize, or 10 categories.

Bradly_60's avatarBradly_60

Well if the odds were one in 16 total that wouldn't be bad.  The jackpot would be way out there but it would be more likely to get lower tier prizes which I think is a good trade off.  But 5/71...that is 1 in 13,019,909.  Second prize should be around 1.5 million then.  That would be interesting.

Brad

hosni

Here is the article in todays San Diego Union-Tribune Newspaper concerning the Mega Millions Lottery  http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/state/20050209-9999-1n9lottery.html

      Platinum John in Escondido,  CA

DoctorEw220's avatarDoctorEw220

i think mega millions will need to change the matrix in order for the jackpots to roll. as i said in a previous thread, CA will kill the jackpots if the odds don't get harder.

DoctorEw220's avatarDoctorEw220

also, i like the idea of CA making their lower pries pari-mutuel.   that way, the prizes across the game don't become pari-mutuel and players in other states don't get screwed because a bunch of CA players also matched 5 white balls. it can work in their favor, or against them though. they could be getting higher than normal prizes, or they could be getting lower than normal prizes.



any word on a matrix change and what it may be to?

nomoneybabe

Hi, congratulationss CA!  They will  be happy to have a chance for BIG money huh !!!

It is fair, the jackpot of Mega is frequently large and having long running than that of Powerball! It will be balanced for the people and the process!!! Nice decisionnnnn!!!!

Let's dream on! I am dreaming tooo!! heeheee

Calscorp's avatarCalscorp

Hosni... thanks for the thread on the article. Interesting....  Kind of sounds like it will be awhile until we actually get started playing. And thanks for the warm welcome for all of us in California.

mrmst's avatarmrmst

Now that California is on board, time to get Florida in on the national action.  Hopefully the Powerball people will go and try to win them over.  I live in Maryland but visit Florida often enough to be able to play a season ticket there in their Lotto.  There is a lot of money wagered in Florida that would be a nice boost to Powerball.

Todd's avatarTodd
Quote: Originally posted by DoctorEw220 on February 9, 2005


also, i like the idea of CA making their lower pries pari-mutuel.   that way, the prizes across the game don't become pari-mutuel and players in other states don't get screwed because a bunch of CA players also matched 5 white balls. it can work in their favor, or against them though. they could be getting higher than normal prizes, or they could be getting lower than normal prizes.

any word on a matrix change and what it may be to?



All the lower-tier prizes in MM are paid by the state in which they were won.  They are not shared between the states.  So if people in CA won 10,000 2nd prizes, all of those would be paid strictly from CA.

I don't believe a matrix change is necessary at all.  They are already predicting many more $100 million+ jackpots than we have now, without any kind of change.  (Which I also previously predicted.)

dvdiva's avatardvdiva
Quote: Originally posted by kcman777 on February 9, 2005

Just a thought ... With California joining the Mega-Millions... there will more winning combinations played ... Do you really think jackpots will really get as hight as 100+ Million ?   With the inclusion of California .. I think it would be a rare case if the jackpot now got as high as 70 Million.






You are correct. With California joining we can look forward to even lower jackpots. Someone at Mega needs to retake math 101. The average pot was promised to go up after Texas joined and it did the exact opposite. More players = more combinations played. Seems basic and yet the mega group keeps missing out on that.
CASH Only

Diva:

More players = faster growing jackpots = bigger rollovers = more rollover cycles.

Bradly_60's avatarBradly_60

Actually it hasn't been to bad with the inclusion on Texas.  I mean they have only had 1 jackpot winner.  And the rate of the jackpots do get higher quicker.  So it will be interesting.  Yet with California's population we will finally have more people in the 12 states that play the game than combinations that are available for the game.  They will change it.  They need to change it.

Brad

fja's avatarfja

Your right about Texas and I'm pretty sure the average jackpot win went from 76 to 80+ million in the last year......This is pretty much the same conversations and concerns we discussed when Texas joined yet they only have 1 jackpot (101 million) and 91 second tier winners in 16 months seems pretty average to me

CASH Only

I'm surprised MM is not more popular in TX, Megaplier or not.

Todd's avatarTodd

This is getting weird.  There is reality and there is make-believe.  In the case of Texas, they joined Mega Millions, and suddenly jackpots started increasing their rollover size by 50% or so, and the jackpots started going over $100 million with greater frequency than ever.

Dvdiva, I have no idea where you're coming up with this stuff.  You're an awesome member here, and I always love your input, but this one has me shaking my head.  Everyone should be saying a big thank you to Texas (and now California) for joining MM!

Now with CA joining, it's going to get even better.  The minimum jackpot will be raised, jackpots will rollover faster and quicker, and we'll have even more frequent $100+ million jackpots than when Texas joined!

I am hoping they don't increase the odds of winning by making some crazy matrix.  I fear they might.  I think they may increase the number of 0+1 prizes awarded by shrinking the Mega Ball pool.  But then they'll decrease the number of other prizes by increasing the primary number pool.  I'd rather have a more reasonable chance to get 3+0 prizes than to have a better chance at a 0+1 prize.  But that's just me.

dvdiva's avatardvdiva

I compare it to powerball. Mega goes upto 100 but just can't break past the 300 mark. Their sales are also below powerball. And sales have been falling for jackpots at the 100 million mark. I also hope the new game doesn't break the 200 million to one mark. I think those odds would be too intimidating. I think most would handle a 1:160 - 1:185 million mark ok if the smaller prizes had better payouts.

dvdiva's avatardvdiva

Thanks Todd for the compliment.

My idea new matrix would be 5/60 plus 1/33. Odds would be 1:5.4 million for the pick five and 1:180 million over all. I think most players could handle that change. 200 million to one just seems like a mental barrier. Its like something priced at $1.99 versus $2. Even though its just a penny there is a reason why its a penny less.

tg636

I assume people on here actually want to win a lottery. Why would anyone who hasn't won a jackpot say Mega Millions (or any lottery) should increase already astronomical odds? Do you just want to donate money to the state or 1 or 2 $300 million winners a year? What about your self-interest in actually winning something? At the very least you should demand no changes for 2 years to see how it works out in reality.

Bradly_60's avatarBradly_60

I dont think we can continue at the same matrix.  It all depends on the number of people in California that acutally do play.  I mean for having so many people and so few dollars in lotter ticket sales California might not be a threat just like Texas pretty much wasn't.  But if Mega Millions is a hit in California we need to switch the matrices.  I mean there are too many more people than combos now.  We need to find a way to increase odds to a point where people will play but it will be still harder to win.  I guess we will just have to wait and see what they decide when California starts selling tickets.  Any word yet on when that might be?

Brad

weshar75's avatarweshar75

I would like to see a 300+ million jackpot before 05' is over and I think mega millions is going to be the to get to it first this year.

CASH Only

I expect a matrix change _when_ CA joins.

CASH Only

It's definite, according to Buddy Roogow of the Maryland Lottery.

Maverick's avatarMaverick

CA will start it's Mega Millions draw some time by the end of the year.

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