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a clerk says your ticket is a loser,you find later its a winner,who should get winnings?

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Posted: April 29, 2005, 3:42 pm - IP Logged

It pays to have a clear head when you buy tickets.

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    Posted: May 1, 2005, 4:58 pm - IP Logged

    has anyone ever washed a ticket in your jeans?


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      Posted: May 6, 2005, 11:05 am - IP Logged


      I haven't.

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        Posted: May 6, 2005, 11:56 pm - IP Logged

        U know the sound the machine makes when it's a loser.

        I check my tickets online...so I know if I won anything and how much I won.  That's just a big nightmare of mine.  I win the jackpot and go to a store to check it now knowing whether I won or not.  The clerk could tell me anything.  That's why if I ever check my tickets at a store I always get them back if they're not winners. 

        I've never washed my tickets but I managed to wash my checkbook a couple of weeks ago.  If there's one thing I do keep up with it's my lottery tickets.  I know exactly where they are at all times.


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          Any ticket marked "annuity" is an automatic loser.

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            Posted: May 14, 2005, 1:57 am - IP Logged

            i've also thrown one in the trash and had to get it out.....


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              Posted: May 14, 2005, 11:11 am - IP Logged

              Oh well...

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                Posted: June 11, 2005, 11:22 am - IP Logged

                they should train the clerks better in recognizing winning tickets.

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                  Posted: June 11, 2005, 12:15 pm - IP Logged

                  First, I always play my own numbers for all types of lottery.  For a lotto game with a big jackpot, I would find out the numbers from a very reliable source which in most states would mean being able to view the drawing on TV (but not in DE, no more televised drawings of any type, so I go to a retailer and ask for a report ticket for the particular lotto game and check my tickets). I usually know pretty quick when I see the numbers for a jackpot game, if I have winners, as I wheel in small number systems and know the win guarantees.  I never throw away any lottery tickets. I take them home and put them into a box until the end of the year. As others have posted, losers can be deducted from winners at the end of the year to offset taxes if one files by deductions. No good for a standard deduction filing which I normally do. But there could come a time during a year when that might change and having the tickets around could come in handy. I can always trash them when a new year begins.  I would never trust a store clerk. They could come up with all type of scans. For example, suppose he had several losing tickets of various amounts laying by his machine and you weren't able to see them. When you give him a $5 dollar PB ticket, he picks up his loser, scans it, and you hear that it is not a winner. He hands you back his loser and you don't pay any attention, but toss it in the trash can. After you leave, he scans your ticket worth a $100 or $5,000....keeps it and keeps his mouth shut.  Waits for a couple of months before claiming if it requires going to the state lottery office,  and tells no one he won. That would work good in DE since big winners can remain anonymous.  Most people that do not care enough to check their own tickets will not think anymore about it when told their ticket is a loser.  If you did catch him because you knew your numbers, he could always lie and say he made a mistake, scan your ticket which more than likely is a loser anyway considering the odds of PB, and give it to you. And if it were a winner, probably only the PB of PB and 1 white ball.  And to be a really smart clerk, he could tell by looking at the ticket whether it  was a quick pick by machine or numbers the player picked and not mess with it. Here though, you would think a player using enough thought to pick their own numbers would also check their own tickets. Just some thoughts about the topic.

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                    Posted: June 11, 2005, 5:38 pm - IP Logged

                    I always check my numbers on the internet.

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                      Posted: June 12, 2005, 12:49 am - IP Logged
                      Everything you all said is cool i mean we might do that check them thourally but the general public ususlly dosent. I was in the royal farm store yesterday and they have a scratch off vending machine next to the coffee dispencer. in the trash can where they toss out old coffee grinds and stuff there were hundreds of scratch off tickets thrown out. sometimes if is not to dirty and i humble myself and dig them out, i have found many tickets worth anywhere from a freebee to 20 bucks. I figure it's a matter of time and i might find one worth big bucks. many of those tickets wern't completly rubbed off a lot of them had bonus areas not rubbed off. 

                      I work in lotto store and we see lots of winning scratch offs in the trash. We cash in on those.

                       

                      When there is a new ticket where the people do not know the rules.. there are more winning tickets to be found.

                       

                      I try to explain to new players how to play and tell them not to throw them away until they are checked.

                      I have found winning tickets on the table where I knew who was scratching, and called them to let them know.. #1.. they left a mess..  #2.. they left winning ticket..

                       

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                        Posted: June 12, 2005, 12:54 am - IP Logged

                        they should train the clerks better in recognizing winning tickets.

                        if it is a six # game. It is hard to recognize a winning ticket just by looking.. I drop them all in the machine. The screen on both sides will tell if it is a winning ticket or not..

                        As for scratch offs, I know whether they are winners are not, because I learn the new games as they come in...

                        Down the road where I  work, there is a Chevron. My son - in - law went to work there.  He witnessed (by video) a clerk there telling a customer his ticket was not a winner.  IT was PB.. and then the next day she took off to collect 5 grand.  Well the woman's husband came in complaining and my s-i-l was the person who had to watch the film. After the lady had left that night, the clerk got the ticket from the trash and put it in her purse. Needless to say, she was fired when she returned from Nashville with her 5 grand. The ticket was not signed so they could not recover the money.  They would have had to prove that the ticket she pulled from the trash was the one she cashed in on..

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                          Quote: Originally posted by bellyache on March 19, 2005

                          I don't understand why more people don't check their tickets themselves. It really isn't that hard and unless you've bought a whole bunch of tickets it really doesn't take that much time out of your life. I mean it could mean the difference between winning tons of money and not being hassled or losing it and having to fight a long battle in court (costing you all the money or half). Doesn't seem worth it. Just check your own damn tickets. lol.

                          By the way I'm new.


                          Welcome !  Here in Wisconsin, they have added a machine at all retailers where you now need tocheck your tickets yourself. It's a scanner-type machine, small and it was put there exactly because too many players on the jackpot games were wasting too much of the retailer's time making the clerks check their tickets !  I used to get really p*ssed at all the people who would hold up the line waiting to checkout because they were too darned lazy to check to see if they had a winner. I'm real glad to see the state put these little machines in.....the clerks now refuse to check tickets (unless there's no one in line, then I've seen them check a ticket) for these people, and tell them to use the machine to check their own tickets.

                          Really, if you're so darned lazy that you can't follow your picks yourself, you don't deserve to tie up other people's time. If you want to buy 50 tickets, fine. Just don't expect someone else to have to waste their time standing in line because of your laziness.  I suspect that more states will follow suit with these ticket scanners. They are a really good idea IMHO.

                          I would love to have one of those machines where people could check their own tickets..

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                            Posted: June 12, 2005, 8:05 am - IP Logged

                            Speaking of trashed tickets, according to the IRS you can deduct your lottery ticket purchases up to your winnings. Theirs gold in those trashed tickets.

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                              Posted: June 15, 2005, 11:27 am - IP Logged

                              I heard Mass players cannot deduct against state taxes.