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Posted: March 6, 2005, 7:06 am - IP Logged

 

  Please explain why the generator is limited to 5/30 and does not include

  the 5/35 cash 5 in CT. It would be interesting to be able to compare a

  truly random generator for a 5/25 (or is it 5/26) with the FL Fantasy 5.

  One could then perform an ANOVA test to determine how random the

  Fantasy drawings are.

  Also, it would be instructive to be able to generate smaller lotto

  games, such as 5/20, 5/15 and 5/10. The last one has only 252

  combinations and its statistics are easy to establish and one could

  then compare the results from small draws with the generator.

  Might it be possible to inspire LP to upgrade the generator?

  Bertil

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    I put number combinations in the QP generator that people ask for.

     

    Check the State Lottery Report Card
    What grade did your lottery earn?

     

    Sign the Petition for True Lottery Drawings
    Help eliminate computerized drawings!

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      Quote: Originally posted by Bertil on March 6, 2005


        Please explain why the generator is limited to 5/30 

        Bertil







      If you don't like the one provided why not write your own and put the limits in it that you want?  I wrote the following one in GWBasic in a couple of minutes.

      RJOh 

      10  DIM N(10)
      20  INPUT "field size      ",FS
      30  INPUT "combination size ",CS
      40  IF FS=<CS THEN CLS:GOTO 20
      50  FOR X=1 TO CS
      60  N(X)=FIX(FS*RND)+1
      70  FOR Y=1 TO X-1:IF N(Y)=N(X) THEN 60 ELSE NEXT Y
      80  PRINT N(X);:NEXT X
      90  PRINT:PRINT "hit c to continue"
      100  C$=INKEY$:IF C$="" THEN 100 ELSE IF C$="c" OR C$="C" THEN 50 ELSE END

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        Posted: March 6, 2005, 11:17 am - IP Logged

        Bertil,

        Try

        random.org

        You can set your parameters any way you want.  The RNG is based on atmospheric "noise". 

        Posted 4/6:  IL Pick 3 midday and evening until they hit:  555, 347 (str8).


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          "atmospheric noise"???...so reckon what kinda number a sonic boom or a sneeze would generate???

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            Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on March 6, 2005



            Quote: Originally posted by Bertil on March 6, 2005


              Please explain why the generator is limited to 5/30 

              Bertil






            I've no ability to write programs or implement algorithms so I must try to find data if they are published or somebody supplies them.

            Bertil
            If you don't like the one provided why not write your own and put the limits in it that you want?  I wrote the following one in GWBasic in a couple of minutes.

            RJOh 

            10  DIM N(10)
            20  INPUT "field size      ",FS
            30  INPUT "combination size ",CS
            40  IF FS=<CS THEN CLS:GOTO 20
            50  FOR X=1 TO CS
            60  N(X)=FIX(FS*RND)+1
            70  FOR Y=1 TO X-1:IF N(Y)=N(X) THEN 60 ELSE NEXT Y
            80  PRINT N(X);:NEXT X
            90  PRINT:PRINT "hit c to continue"
            100  C$=INKEY$:IF C$="" THEN 100 ELSE IF C$="c" OR C$="C" THEN 50 ELSE END
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              Posted: March 7, 2005, 8:27 am - IP Logged

              SirMetro, If you take an AM radio and tune it between channels, the static you hear is "atmospheric noise"....background radio waves.

              Posted 4/6:  IL Pick 3 midday and evening until they hit:  555, 347 (str8).


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                Quote: Originally posted by Bertil on March 6, 2005






                I've no ability to write programs or implement algorithms so I must try to find data if they are published or somebody supplies them.

                Bertil
                 







                Bertil,

                Good luck on finding what you are looking for, but it has been my experience that people don't spend time writing custom programs and giving them away and those who are looking for free programs have to take them as is.

                RJOh

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                  Just a follow-up to this thread.  Random.org is not a commercial site.  It's free (there is no ad on the site)and atmospheric noise as a seed and algorithm for randomness is considered by many as better than a computer-generated seed and algorithm for "truer" randomness.

                  The only better thing I've heard in RNG's is the rate of radioactive decay of Cesium(25?) because its decay happens at an erratic rate..  When you find a free site using that approach, let me know.

                  The reason I mentioned it to Bertil was that you can set your own parameters for any x out of x game and get up to 10,000 results if you want.

                  Thanks.

                   

                  Posted 4/6:  IL Pick 3 midday and evening until they hit:  555, 347 (str8).


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                    Quote: Originally posted by Rick G on March 7, 2005



                    Just a follow-up to this thread.  Random.org is not a commercial site.  It's free (there is no ad on the site)and atmospheric noise as a seed and algorithm for randomness is considered by many as better than a computer-generated seed and algorithm for "truer" randomness.

                    The only better thing I've heard in RNG's is the rate of radioactive decay of Cesium(25?) because its decay happens at an erratic rate..  When you find a free site using that approach, let me know.

                    The reason I mentioned it to Bertil was that you can set your own parameters for any x out of x game and get up to 10,000 results if you want.

                    Thanks.

                     





                            Rick G, Please tell me how I might log onto to get any x out of x games if it will help me to get

                            1000 samples for any n/N lotto, such as 5/10. I've tried very hard to search the site for any

                            specific reference to lotto games.

                            Bertil

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                      Bertil, you won't find any reference to specific lottery games at the site.  It is a random number generator site.

                      The page I go to is linked below.  If you're looking for 1000 results for a 5/10 game:

                      Generate 5000 numbers; lowest value 1, highest value 10; format in 5 columns.

                      http://www.random.org/nform.html

                      Good luck!

                      Posted 4/6:  IL Pick 3 midday and evening until they hit:  555, 347 (str8).


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                        Quote: Originally posted by Rick G on March 10, 2005



                        Bertil, you won't find any reference to specific lottery games at the site.  It is a random number generator site.

                        The page I go to is linked below.  If you're looking for 1000 results for a 5/10 game:

                        Generate 5000 numbers; lowest value 1, highest value 10; format in 5 columns.

                        http://www.random.org/nform.html

                        Good luck!





                                  Thank you RickG. I tried it but it generated sets of five with

                                  duplications on most lines. That is not a lotto 5/10 game.

                                  Is there a way of getting only duplicate free sets?

                                  Bertil 

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                          Bertil, scroll down the page and there is a sequence generator for Lotto (no repeats).  However it only generates one entire sequence at a time using all the digits from the number range.

                          It would be nice if it was done the same way as the main page but without repeats.

                          A long time ago I knew how to do simple programming in Basic.  I had my own RNG that was similar to RJOh's, but not GWBasic .  It was actually a very good program and I won a few 4 of 6 using it the same way as you want to with a smaller array of numbers pool.

                           My suggestion is to see if you have a friend or relative who could do RJOh's program for you on your computer.  Good luck with it.

                          Thanks for posting that, RJOh.

                          Posted 4/6:  IL Pick 3 midday and evening until they hit:  555, 347 (str8).


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                            Rick G,

                            If Bertil is really interested in my RNG and understand how to use the Command Prompt in Windows, he can make a directory (MD), download a copy of MS GWBasic which is freeware, copy my post and run it. If he needs help, he can go to programmersheaven.com which has all kinds of useful information for the beginner.

                            RJOh

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                              RJOh,

                              Thanks for the "how-to" on that.  I'm going to try it as you suggested.

                              Posted 4/6:  IL Pick 3 midday and evening until they hit:  555, 347 (str8).