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Which is your school of thought?

You can predict lottery results [ 24 ]  [38.71%]
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Posted: July 1, 2005, 9:25 pm - IP Logged

Hi,

  Just an update of the schools of thought in Lottery Post. Bash

 

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    Posted: July 1, 2005, 9:51 pm - IP Logged

    Let us not call it prediction, but an accurate guess.

    And yes, you can accurately guess the winning number, but more often than not, not by itself, but among a group of combos, that you might call "the most likely combos" according to you and your system(s).

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      Posted: July 1, 2005, 10:11 pm - IP Logged

      i think its unpredictable most of the time.

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        Posted: July 3, 2005, 10:29 am - IP Logged

        Lotteries are totally random and unpredictable events if they are honest, however lotteries have a fixed amount of events and players try to guess which one will happen next.  Those fixed amounts determine the odds of the players guessing correctly.  Some players believe by observing how some of those events happened in the past they can guess which ones are more likely to occur next. That's what I do and I haven't won a jackpot yet.

        RJOh 

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          LottoVantage's avatar - BRITIS 3.GIF
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          Posted: July 3, 2005, 11:49 am - IP Logged

          Lotteries are totally random and unpredictable events if they are honest,

          RJOh, I don't exactly agree with this statement. Certain groups of numbers where the majority of numbers are likely to appear ARE predictable at particular times!

          The predicament in dealing with this phenomenon is in wheeling the potential groups of numbers, and keeping it economical enough to work.

          The easiest and generally most accurate way to eliminate excess numbers from a potential group is to utilize "average sums". Example: range of 104 to 60 reduced to 99 to 80. This will largely reduce the amount of numbers to play, and if "sums" are being tracked regularly, can be highly accurate and effective.

          Good luck!

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            Posted: July 3, 2005, 12:11 pm - IP Logged

            I think that you can significantly reduce the odds by keeping a close eye on combinations & pairs that have come.

            There are only 1000 ways that the 3 digit number can appear so you may not predict the order in which the number will hit but you certainly can predict the combination. 

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              Posted: July 3, 2005, 1:52 pm - IP Logged

              I'd rather be looking at a winning ticket thinking, "how did I get these numbers correctly" than looking at a loosing ticket at think, "why am I always loosing". I don't think there is a way to predict winning numbers. You can see certain combinations in former winning numbers but that doesn't mean that those combinations will come up when you play them.

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                Posted: July 3, 2005, 2:35 pm - IP Logged

                Lotteries are totally random and unpredictable events if they are honest,

                RJOh, I don't exactly agree with this statement. Certain groups of numbers where the majority of numbers are likely to appear ARE predictable at particular times!

                LottoVantage, picking a group of numbers that may contain the winning numbers is guessing to me, picking just the winning numbers is predicting.  Picking a small group of numbers that actually contain the winning numbers is good guessing and is almost as hard as only picking the winning numbers.

                Have you ever picked a small group of numbers (winning numbers + 3-6 extra numbers) that won the top prize?

                RJOh

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                  Posted: July 3, 2005, 2:43 pm - IP Logged

                  I think that you can significantly reduce the odds by keeping a close eye on combinations & pairs that have come.

                  There are only 1000 ways that the 3 digit number can appear so you may not predict the order in which the number will hit but you certainly can predict the combination. 

                  If you're just talking about the 3 numbers and not their order then you're only talking about 220 possible combinations, that's the reason a boxed hit only pays $50 in a pick3 game.

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                    Posted: July 3, 2005, 2:52 pm - IP Logged

                    Lotteries are totally random and unpredictable events if they are honest,

                    RJOh, I don't exactly agree with this statement. Certain groups of numbers where the majority of numbers are likely to appear ARE predictable at particular times!

                    The predicament in dealing with this phenomenon is in wheeling the potential groups of numbers, and keeping it economical enough to work.

                    The easiest and generally most accurate way to eliminate excess numbers from a potential group is to utilize "average sums". Example: range of 104 to 60 reduced to 99 to 80. This will largely reduce the amount of numbers to play, and if "sums" are being tracked regularly, can be highly accurate and effective.

                    Good luck!

                    RJOH, I completely agree with your statement.

                    It's possible to correctly guess the numbers, but it's not possible to predict the numbers. These two things are not the same. If you have ever won by picking your own numbers then you guessed correctly. If it were possible to predict winning numbers, then you would need to only play one set of numbers because you would know (for sure) which numbers are going to hit.

                    So using a system, or a wheel, or a mathematical formula that gives you more than one possible set of numbers is not a prediction - but rather an "educated" guess. And I do believe that it is completey possible to improve your odds by making an educated guess - esspecially for the Pick 3 games.

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                      Posted: July 3, 2005, 3:15 pm - IP Logged

                      This is my theory. No piece of matter has the exact same molecular stucture. And while that may seem negligible, when it comes to a air-mix machine, it could mean all the difference. When the chute is opened on that machine, it's a race. And if anyone has seen a race of any kind, just the slightest boost can win the race. A boost like a tiny, microscopic hole that causes air resistance. Or just being a thousandth of an ounce lighter. It may not be enough to really make a noticeable effect, but in the long run patterns do paint a picture that some balls come up more easily than others. And every game is different when it comes to predicting. Every game in the world has a different ball set with it's own set of quirks. So while 9 maybe a hot number in CT Cash 5, it may very well be cold in VA Cash 5, even though they use similar machines.

                      Another thing, if someone says that a certain combination is going to come up soon somewhere or anywhere, well it just doesn't work that way. Each state has a different process, some uses air mix machines, others use computers (blah!), and a couple even use gravity pick machines. And those alone also have many variables. So while individual numbers for each game in each state can be believable, be sure to tick the "hide all states" option.

                      So my thinking, it's mostly random, but can be predicted if a long-term pattern can be detected.

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                        Posted: July 3, 2005, 3:41 pm - IP Logged

                        Instead of trying to 'predict' a pick-3 number I try my best to find the best 'probable' number to appear. Like when the sum has been an even sum for 5 times running then I play only odd sums.

                          If a string of high digits (389, 578) 5 or more in a row, then I want numbers that contain at least 2 small digits. The same with an even, odd or low string.

                          If a straight comes (657) then I won't play a straight for a day or so. 

                          I also don't put up my buck to win a $80 box when I can get $150 for the same bet!

                          When it comes to pick 5, 6,or 7 lotto's, I just buy quick picks.  I am not near smart enough to to win a lot picking only 3 out of 10 so picking 5 or 6 out of 50 or so numbers is way above my head! 

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                          Posted: July 3, 2005, 8:20 pm - IP Logged

                          Some day someone is going to say they can predict the outcome of a lottery, get lucky and win a lottery jackpot proving it.  Until that happens, I will continue to believe that the results of a lottery drawing can't be predicted.

                          RJOh

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                            Posted: July 3, 2005, 8:45 pm - IP Logged

                              There are too many variables to predicting, and while i still think that trends play an important role in the outcome of numbers, the bottom line is that predicting is very unpredictable.  you can study till your exhausted and without the element of "luck" behind you, it aint going to happen...! 

                                                                         

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                              Posted: July 3, 2005, 10:08 pm - IP Logged

                              Evidently about a third of the people posting believe the numbers are predictable (poll).  Just keeping silent about it.  A third's higher than I'd have guessed.

                              Jack