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# Vtracs 101

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I have a question...

how is adding a layer of ambiguity (10 numbers reduced to 5, each of the remaining 5 representing 2 numbers) going to help pick better numbers? How is it different from an odd/even filter? (reducing 10 numbers to 2 states [odd/even] where each state could represent 5 possible numbers)

just curious, because I have done several v-trac formula conversion sheets in excel for post members in the past, and I have not seen where it makes the results any less random.

Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.

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019=v125

113=v224

895=v451

019=v125

395=v451

933=v544

964=v525

846=v452

608=v214

884=v445

303=v414

582=v143    Now what I want you to do is focus on the patterns made with the vtracs.. what do you see..

I see alot of 4s and 5s and only one 3

Good eye.. do you see any vtracs that repeated...  other than the  125 ... lol

repeating as in exact order?? I see 451  if not in exact order..then i see 445 too

me too

I also see alot of 1's and 4's.

Yes, the only numbers involved are between 1 thru 5. Nothing higher than 5. And no zeros.

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[raising hand, from back of the classroom]

Almost the same question as hypersoniq, what benefit is it to convert the actual numbers to Vtrac numbers?  I understand that it is not as many numbers to look at. But remembering to convert and added confusion looking at my scribling as to whether I wrote a Vtrac or an actual number just adds to the possibility of errors.

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I have a question...

how is adding a layer of ambiguity (10 numbers reduced to 5, each of the remaining 5 representing 2 numbers) going to help pick better numbers? How is it different from an odd/even filter? (reducing 10 numbers to 2 states [odd/even] where each state could represent 5 possible numbers)

just curious, because I have done several v-trac formula conversion sheets in excel for post members in the past, and I have not seen where it makes the results any less random.

From observation,  you can see which vtrac is missing. This is only one way I use it to nail a hit with only playing  8 -12 numbers..

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[raising hand, from back of the classroom]

Almost the same question as hypersoniq, what benefit is it to convert the actual numbers to Vtrac numbers?  I understand that it is not as many numbers to look at. But remembering to convert and added confusion looking at my scribling as to whether I wrote a Vtrac or an actual number just adds to the possibility of errors.

As I mentioned in first post of this thread, that is the only thing I hate about vtracs.. the way they were named with numbers instead of Letters or something...

Once you start working with vtracs.. then it becomes easier,  Looking at only the  vtracss,  1, 2, 3, 4, 5 on a line up you can easily spot what is over due and go in for a kill

Another thing that makes it so much nicer.. Which we will get to in vtracs 103 is our spotting the vtracs number in one state can help you narrow down a st in another state..

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[raising hand, from back of the classroom]

Almost the same question as hypersoniq, what benefit is it to convert the actual numbers to Vtrac numbers?  I understand that it is not as many numbers to look at. But remembering to convert and added confusion looking at my scribling as to whether I wrote a Vtrac or an actual number just adds to the possibility of errors.

Ok.. to help with your confusion, I am going to recommend graph paper for you to use..  I had to use if for a few months myself.. Don't feel bad..

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First: Vtracs... What in the world is that?  That is what I said when I first heard the word.. and that is what I hear here in Ardmore when I mention the word now..

My  cognitive definition of the word is this..

V standing for  variable

Tracs .. stands for Tracking...

So when you hear me say Vtracs.. I am talking about tracking variables...

(Algebra) is what I think of and then get a sick-feeling... but believe me it isn't as bad as

Algebra..

*Note the only thing I hated about the way the vtracs method was set is that they name name each vtrac a number.. Some get it confused with the actual draw numbers..  So when I speak of vtrac numbers I will have the word vtracs in front of that number  or the letter v... So one will not think I have lost my mind when I say TN got 252 last night.. which it was v252.. actual number was 191..

The set up for the vtracs is this chart..  One has to print this and use it as a guide until it comes naturally ..

V #            =          draw number

1                =          0  or  5

2                =            1  or  6

3                =          2    or  7

4                =          3  or    8

5                =          4   or  9

If you hear me say.. v5 has been missing in a state for more than 4 days... I am referring to the digits  4 or 9...

Your first lesson is to follow.. When asking questions please use the quote button at top of right hand corner so that we can refer to what you are asking about...

Do you find a benefit from having 1 even 1 odd in a v-trac?

Oo'Ka

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First: Vtracs... What in the world is that?  That is what I said when I first heard the word.. and that is what I hear here in Ardmore when I mention the word now..

My  cognitive definition of the word is this..

V standing for  variable

Tracs .. stands for Tracking...

So when you hear me say Vtracs.. I am talking about tracking variables...

(Algebra) is what I think of and then get a sick-feeling... but believe me it isn't as bad as

Algebra..

*Note the only thing I hated about the way the vtracs method was set is that they name name each vtrac a number.. Some get it confused with the actual draw numbers..  So when I speak of vtrac numbers I will have the word vtracs in front of that number  or the letter v... So one will not think I have lost my mind when I say TN got 252 last night.. which it was v252.. actual number was 191..

The set up for the vtracs is this chart..  One has to print this and use it as a guide until it comes naturally ..

V #            =          draw number

1                =          0  or  5

2                =            1  or  6

3                =          2    or  7

4                =          3  or    8

5                =          4   or  9

If you hear me say.. v5 has been missing in a state for more than 4 days... I am referring to the digits  4 or 9...

Your first lesson is to follow.. When asking questions please use the quote button at top of right hand corner so that we can refer to what you are asking about...

Do you find a benefit from having 1 even 1 odd in a v-trac?

yes and one high and one low too.. I didn't come up with the chart... it was what was taught to me..

The vtracs have basically covered all the angles for you....

When Todd gets up the new vtracs result pages.. I hope is to have everyone prepared with the knowledge to how to use it to make some bucks..

I have had lots of fun doing this.. and made quite a bit.. Actually more than I thought was possible.. So let's all win...

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Now students your home assignment is take your state.. and list the actual draws for the month of November 05 and list the vtracs beside it.. We are going to get you to hitting something by the weekend's out..

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THANKS TNTEA,this makes vtrac easier !

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First Assignment.... put the vtrac numbers out besides the actual draws listed below... print these if it is easier ...  Use the chart in first post as a guide.. (it is like a cheat sheet)... *ever been in a class where you can cheat..  (well you are now)

Thu, Nov 24, 2005 0-1-9 1-1-3 8-9-5 0-1-9 3-9-5 9-3-3 9-6-4 8-4-6 6-0-8 8-8-4 3-0-3 5-8-2

Foot note:  This is Western Canada's list of actual draws..

Correct Answers will be given later this afternoon...

When Todd adds the vtrac result page to LP this part of the work will be history. It would be very wise to up grade membership if you haven't done so. Save you lots of time.. and less room for errors.

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Paurths,

What program did you use to do that chart?

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Paurths,

What program did you use to do that chart?

My own program.

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Homework for Missouri

 actual vtrac 11/1 m 529 135 11/1 e 306 124 11/2 m 155 112 11/2 e 377 334 11/3 m 623 234 11/3 e 883 444 11/4 m 851 124 11/4 e 030 114 11/5 m 027 113 11/5 e 875 134 11/6 m 990 115 11/6 e 650 112 11/7 m 336 244 11/7 e 286 234 11/8 m 317 234 11/8 e 006 112 11/9 m 067 123 11/9 e 380 114 11/10 m 787 334 11/10 e 464 255 11/11 m 466 255 11/11 e 491 255 11/12 m 460 125 11/12 e 057 113 11/13 m 755 113 11/13 e 789 345 11/14 m 955 115 11/14 e 447 335 11/15 m 079 135 11/15 e 224 335 11/16 m 105 112 11/16 e 476 235 11/17 m 759 135 11/17 e 771 233 11/18 m 763 234 11/18 e 767 233 11/19 m 011 112 11/19 e 916 255 11/20 m 918 245 11/20 e 737 334 11/21 m 922 335 11/21 e 839 445 11/22 m 211 233 11/22 e 443 445 11/23 m 448 445 11/23 e 199 255 11/24 m 069 125 11/24 e 125 123 11/25 m 466 255

Numbers.

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Best Picks,

I glanced at your list..I didn't check the entire list..but I do see 2 mistakes

 11/1 e 306 124 11/2 m 155 112

11/1 e 306 is vtrac 412

11/2 m 155 is vtrac 211

the numbers look right..just not in the same position as draw order...

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