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WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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Posted: November 27, 2005, 10:58 am - IP Logged

 Is there a software that is better tracking Straights than others out there? 

 

  Think about this for a minute. When we crunch here.... using the deflate and inspect we are actually getting Box information back.  Also, consider this. It takes at least 2.7 years of past data to complete a 1000 numbers ... (straights).

  The subtraction is from a 220 box chart. Imagine if it subtracted from a 1000 numbers chart.  Straights would come back.

                                Pure Straights   

 

 

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                              Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                              Odds never change .....but probability does. 

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    Posted: November 27, 2005, 1:01 pm - IP Logged

    I like that concept.  I use to have my spreadsheets set up to track the straights. 

     

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      I would be fantastic to have the deflated over each state's results like we do on the daily pages results..

      That way we can deflate the numbers for several years..

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        WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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        I would be fantastic to have the deflated over each state's results like we do on the daily pages results..

        That way we can deflate the numbers for several years..

            Now your talking! That's it.   

            Yes.  Thank you.  Straights are the answer. 

          If nothing else ...... it would be really fun to work with nothing but the pure Straights for a change. 

        Let's see ......let's make sure one more time before we commit to that thought.

         37.50? or.....$ 900.00 

        Yeap..... we were right. It would be worth it.   LOL

         

           

         

         

        The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                      Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                      Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                               Win d    

          WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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          Posted: November 27, 2005, 3:12 pm - IP Logged

            How about this? Now we can pull up the page for results and also ask to see the results for that particular day....deflated or inspected. We can do it for Mid and Eve. separate or combined. These results are subtracted from the 220 chart for (one day only) at this time. Having that expanded to more than one day would be great one day. Really great time saver ....smooth. But....back to straights

            Now, how would you like to be able to ask for the results for the last 6 or 7 days all at once? Combined there are 55 games per day. That means we would be able to compress a years worth of results into about 7 days. What we would get back would be pure Straights Data. If it came from the 1000 chart it really would result in pure straight data.   

                                                       55 draws x 7 = 385 days Combined

                                                                              or

              Evening only ...36 draws a day ..would be about 10 days results to equal to one year.   36 x 10 = 360  

                       Just think about that .... a whole years worth of game results.  

                        How about this? Click a window for 7 days ( one year)  .....or 14 days (2 years) or 20 days ( about 2.7 years or one complete cycle of Straights)

                      It takes 2.7 years to get all the way through the 1000 chart. .... or in our case about 18 days.  1000/55 = 18 days. 

                        It would be the "Biggest Cash Three Game" in the World !      

           

           

          The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                        Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                        Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                 Win d    

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            Posted: November 27, 2005, 3:59 pm - IP Logged

            deja vu.....

            That would be great if we could do that here.

               

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              Posted: November 27, 2005, 5:44 pm - IP Logged


              That would be great.
              Also to have it on a per state basis also.

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                Posted: November 29, 2005, 6:31 am - IP Logged

                 Playing for Box hits all the time is like trying to eat Jello with Chop Sticks..... LOL

                                                          Stretch

                 

                 

                The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                              Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                              Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                       Win d    

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                  Posted: November 29, 2005, 6:38 am - IP Logged

                  I would be fantastic to have the deflated over each state's results like we do on the daily pages results..

                  That way we can deflate the numbers for several years..

                  You can deflate directly from the results page for any game.  Just select Deflate from the game's popup menu, and select the amount of time (draws) to deflate.

                  On the issue of straights vs. box combos in deflate, I'm open for suggestions.  Keep in mind that deflate itself may not be what you're looking for, because it is sepcifically designed to compress a large set of numbers by filtering and compressing into like combos.

                  We have to think about what exactly you're trying to do with the straights.  Do you want the same concept as deflate, except it will only match straight matches?  The only problem with that is the end result list will be very large, because there will be much fewer matches.  Some people will question the value of a tool that doesn't really compress the initial set of numbers all that much.

                  But I want to hear what you have to say about this.  If there's something missing, let's figure out what it is.

                   

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                    Posted: November 29, 2005, 6:49 am - IP Logged

                     Wow Todd !  Very exciting to think about tracking Straights. What we have now is more than most ever thought possible. If we could add to it with Straights data that would be some serious tracking for fun and ......profit. It really does seem like the next logical step in our tracking.  

                      You don't have to hit too many Straights before your having some real fun.     

                     

                     

                    The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                  Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                  Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                           Win d    

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                      Posted: November 29, 2005, 6:54 am - IP Logged

                      Can you describe how you would like it to work?

                       

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                        Posted: November 29, 2005, 7:29 am - IP Logged

                         Would like to get some ideas from other experienced members too. This is way to important and don't want to blow a great opportunity to plug in some additional tools for straights. It is really hard to focus on Straights after chasing boxes for so long.

                          To actually be able to go into unfamiliar states and get up to speed so fast is very exciting. Talk about popular "all states" picks in addition to that. To condense all states data into one "Giant Game" would really help many many folks.

                         A lot of the data provided under thisservice wouldn't help a particular individual to play "all states" so much as it would help alot members play with more advantage and confidence in their respective states. It would be a service provided by LP for the members in individual states ...... in other words it may or may not be an advantage for a General All States Predictor and his Goals.... but still a great help advantage for the individual members.

                         We may never be able to make a profit playing all states as individual players. Too costly....but each individual playing a particular STRAIGHT in each of their individual states could. Each state would have their turn ....eventually.     

                         From a selfish individual point of view.... LOL  It would allow us to get up to speed very fast in different states and shoot for straights that up to that time would have been uneducated guesses at best. Otherwise known ...at best ...as lucky Boxes.       

                         One small suggestion on the final page of results.....  an automatic Tier O  just below Tier 1.  that would indicate the "UN Hit numbers" for what ever time frame was being used. If this is something hard or very difficult to create ...I apologize for asking as I am not familiar with. ...but that's the first that comes to mind. 

                          Other members please think about this and this focus on the straights tracking and let's come together for a great idea.

                            Thanks Todd for your interest and offer of help. The tools LP provides right now are remarkable.  

                         

                         

                        The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                      Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                      Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                               Win d    

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                                 It takes 2.7 years to get all the way through the 1000 chart. .... or in our case about 18 days.  1000/55 = 18 days. 

                          From one of your post in this thread Win-D

                           Would it not take longer than that because of repeat numbers?

                           That would be a helpful tool, but I am thinking it might be hard to do keeping in mind the repeats. Or would one be able to get a years data and then deflate or inspect it to get out the repeats?

                            I am not smart enough to work this out.

                          ez 

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                              I don't know if this could ever be a part of this but it's something that was needed in a few instances of tracking.

                                Tracking boxes for unhit 6 way numbers ....you may get back the results thinking it is no longer in play as un hit. Just because it hit as a box.... wrong ... it hit as only one of the six ways...  only one. Leaving the other 5 ways open for play consideration. 

                              How could we tell which ones have or have not hit.. ? 

                              Imagine for a minute... a single vertical column of numbers and then to the right in the shadows...... 5 more columns of the same numbers...only now they are in one of the six different forms. Each Column is numbered.. Column  1. Ascending..2 decending..3. mixed other 4. another other 5. etc 6. etc.    Using small numbers to the right of each number form. Identify the type of order hit.  For example..

                              You go into the new states data history and see the last hits using the RED order order numbers were....  1,1,1,3,3,3,2,4,1,1,1,4,  you would know the last number order column each came from.  Tracking,,, one could or would be looking for a HIGH ... Even ....order number next. Say, .... a 6...or a 4 or maybe a 5....  

                                 

                                123 1    231 2  1323  213 4  3215  312  

                              As far as the 1000 numbers and repeats goes. The 2.7 years just means that at least every single number of the 1000 chart had at least one chance at a hit. Thats why one says that each of the 120 no match hits on average of 2 times a year or 365. Thats why. Using those numbers 123's etc. up there....

                            The first year they might hit as 123 1 and 213 6  leaving straights 321,231,312,and 132 open for hits in the 2nd and third year. We would always use the same consistent RED position order numbers.    

                              What kind of 123 hit....... one of six kinds right?  Either a 123...1,2,3,4,5 or 6

                              Same for doubles ofcourse.... 2881  8822  828 3

                              Just a thought....   

                             

                             

                            The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                          Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                          Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                                   Win d    

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                              Posted: November 29, 2005, 9:51 am - IP Logged

                                     It takes 2.7 years to get all the way through the 1000 chart. .... or in our case about 18 days.  1000/55 = 18 days. 

                              From one of your post in this thread Win-D

                               Would it not take longer than that because of repeat numbers?

                               That would be a helpful tool, but I am thinking it might be hard to do keeping in mind the repeats. Or would one be able to get a years data and then deflate or inspect it to get out the repeats?

                                I am not smart enough to work this out.

                              ez 

                              A Straight-Deflate (rhymes!) tool would work similarly to the way the current Deflate tool works, except that it would only eliminate and count the number of straight matches, as opposed to the current Deflate tool, which counts the number of box matches.

                              I think Win D is right about the fact that the All States view would be particularly helpful, because it will take a lot of data to generate any interesting results (because of the much fewer number of straight matches).

                              I like the concept of "Tier 0" as well, and I think that would be a great addition to both versions of the Deflate tool.  I'll put it into my development plans when the time comes.

                              Any other ideas?  Please post them!  (Anyone!)

                               

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