No need to apoligize for anything CGnTX, we are all here to help each other and to enjoy playing. Just ignore anyone who isn't, they are very few and far between. It really is a great site, with excellent folks so just ask away and don't worry about being wrong especiall if you're new. Once in a while someone will gripe at you, but that is only 1 in a hundred, so ignore it and do your thing. I've been playing P-3 for a long time and have made and lost a lot of $, but am still learning. I have the most trouble with understanding what people are trying to explain, but that may be my problem and not theirs. Sometimes they go on and on about some system or method but it is as clear as mud to me, and when I ask a question I can see that they didn't get my question so I just let it go. Don't forget that we are trying to make sense out of 1000 to 1 odds, or 120 to 1 (boxed/exact-any) and random selection, so finding an exact method is but a dream and using a combination of methods to win is a skill that only returns a percentage of success. I list the Tx P-3 winning numbers, (day and night), in a column with the date to the left side. By doing this, I can see what is happening for years. If you study what happens here you can see: repeat numbers and patterns, pairs from the last two winning numbers, pairs from the last 2,4,6,8,10 games back,(and pairs are very nice because you only have 10 combos to play or less if you filter them odd/even/hi/lo/consecutives or not, etc.), repeat numbers from doubles, if the number is related or not to the date, (believe it or not, if you look at the results for Tx you can see that most of the time there is a winning number from the day before, the exact date or the day after), odd/even/hi/lo patterns, what happens after a consecutive number, (6-8-7 for instance), hits, whether too many numbers with or without two consecutive numbers, (6-7, for instance,-you can cut your choices in half if you can figure out whether to play consecutive numbers or non consecutives), how many games since a number last hit. etc., etc. The thing about knowing what's going on from a simple chart like this is that you can see that if something happens too much or too little according to what is "expected" you can make an educated guess and keep seeing and learning new ways to predict. Good luck, and have fun. alx