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Posted: March 28, 2006, 6:18 pm - IP Logged

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    I track pick 3 lowest to highest digit in my software .

    This is a profile shot of the freguency of each digit by position lowest to highest digit.

    If I want to I can separate the positions 1 ,2,&3 To look for what ever I want . so I could just as well pull position 3 and take a look at what is happening with all the numbers that contain the digit 9.

    I have 1562 draws in this profile.

        Drawn By Position |
        P1  P2  P3  P4  Ttl|   
    -------------------------
    0: 441  55  6      502|
    1: 313 115  9      437|
    2: 275 166  24      465|
    3: 191 201  63      455|
    4: 143 256  97      496|
    5: 100 217 153      470|
    6:  61 222 161      444|
    7:  27 163 278      468|
    8:  11 130 345      486|
    9:  __    37 426      463|

     

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      Posted: March 28, 2006, 6:29 pm - IP Logged

      Hopefully you all are making use of the Inspector to examine the trends, such as high-low, odd-even, sums etc.

      You bet I do.

      I just used the inspector 3 to sort from highest to lowest. Lickety split fast it was. >LOL<

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        You are all right in the fact that each number appears an equal amount of times.
        This is a tracking method that is used by many players.

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          PAURTHS..YES YOU COULD ADD 222-299 IN THERE ALSO and I do..I was just saying..if you transfer every combination that has a zero in starting with 000-099 and then do the samething starting with 111-199 you should end up with 488 combinations..that is almost half the set where every single one of the 488 combinations has either a 0 or a 1..lol..that is why you see so many zeros come out and ones in any place..xxx..I wasnt trying to confuse anyone..just shed some light on what sfillippo found..yes..it helps with box hits but if you want to play them straight you would still need to unscramble them..sorry if I confused anyone..

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            When I track low to high digit combos I am looking for combos that hit more frequently. I do not particulary play HHH or LLL they are on a pick and choose basis.


            Output
            Inspecting results for South Carolina Midday 3 since March 21, 2005
            Numbers Inspected: 320
                Classification   Matches   Percent   Matching Numbers
            High/Low:
            HHH 37 11.6%

            667 857 969 787 696 857 999 567 568 565 785 686 569 657 599 868 885 985 956 997 978 887 685 557 968 696 889 599 777 767 978 676 595 568 856 955 658

            HHL 107 33.4%

            773 963 973 275 838 745 197 398 827 459 375 916 379 839 186 839 727 155 947 189 099 059 807 684 554 694 186 894 497 949 188 874 526 580 782 359 583 165 716 505 508 156 259 884 925 495 728 961 839 781 809 716 564 088 753 629 928 508 590 628 077 265 828 891 706 728 628 267 388 388 562 535 167 592 069 962 505 950 819 719 088 680 671 984 948 953 719 729 563 935 809 761 276 266 727 736 649 928 378 745 288 095 505 387 547 627 818

            HLL 130 40.6%

            308 254 415 743 260 417 063 262 406 084 026 913 620 834 603 371 327 094 319 048 209 911 261 037 624 741 064 840 472 803 382 521 722 260 723 227 118 271 632 823 174 092 833 453 429 483 602 261 129 208 254 106 472 318 228 335 251 453 840 280 306 047 913 252 438 007 125 260 005 472 449 912 246 273 426 070 510 513 009 115 534 252 151 924 245 461 453 293 127 108 045 631 115 383 309 924 351 542 039 352 327 209 742 173 053 072 215 612 491 900 054 500 425 713 832 640 135 127 513 273 901 194 392 801 036 491 070 284 543 229

            LLL 46 14.4%
            201 234 422 224 210 413 143 113 104 344 200 033 411 223 314 401 142 321 304 001 344 203 134 431 423 041 430 013 401 023 110 033 222 014 133 011 322 320 004 324 340 404 322 443 114 000

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              Posted: March 28, 2006, 7:29 pm - IP Logged

              There are 1000 possible 3 digit numbers in the pick 3 game - 000 to 999.  Of these 1000 unique numbers, 125 or 12.5% are comprised of all low digits, 125 or 12.5% are comprised of all high digits and 750 or 75% are comprised of a mix of low and high digits which - when rearranged from low to high would result in a "new" number of 499 or below.  I don't see how this helps us get hits - am I missing something?

              Long time reader - first time poster...

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                High/Low:


                HHH 37 11.6%

                HHL 107 33.4%

                HLL 130 40.6%

                LLL 46 14.4%

                As I see it, there are 35 numbers and their permutations not worth playing.

                As JAP69 has pointed out here in the breakdown, 88.4% of the time, the undesirable numbers won't be hits. Or to put it the other way, the undesirable numbers WILL hit 11.6% of the time which are poor odds.

                Just for my personal reference, I will be filtering out that 11.6%.

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                  On the flip side, you can take the undesirables, or as CalifDude calls them, "rare numbers", and do a skip analysis on them and then play them that way. 1/2 dozen one way, 6 the other. That is what I am working on right now. Plus, the undesirables are so few that you won't be putting too much money into them for a win, based on skips.

                  Now, conversely, you could find a skip pattern for the desirable numbers and play them when you are almost positive they will hit. It's kind of a gamble just like single and double skips

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                    There are 1000 possible 3 digit numbers in the pick 3 game - 000 to 999.  Of these 1000 unique numbers, 125 or 12.5% are comprised of all low digits, 125 or 12.5% are comprised of all high digits and 750 or 75% are comprised of a mix of low and high digits which - when rearranged from low to high would result in a "new" number of 499 or below.  I don't see how this helps us get hits - am I missing something?

                    Long time reader - first time poster...

                    I rearranged my sheet to box order and another that has the exact order the number was drawn as.

                    I select numbers for play by looking at each column and make a judgement on what numbers to pick for future play. Picking the numbers is based on knowing how numbers fall from study of past history and what to look for for next plays. Just stary with a sheet like this with your states draws in it and as the numbers hit look at your sheet to see why it hit. did a pair in the number reapeat in that column or did the pair come from another column. Did it look like a double was due in a column, An all even or all odd in a column, a consecutive number etc,etc,

                    to make a choice I will look at a column like the 0 column. I will choose as an example 079 box order. Then I will look at past exact draws and choose an exact position for the number. It could be any of the 6 probables 079,097,709,790,907,970

                    Then I will move on to another column like the 3 column and choose 378 box order. The exact probables 378,387,738,783,837,873

                    Just study the game as to how numbers fall.

                     

                    __________box order________
                    __0____1____2____3____4___________

                    _049__137__258__357__459
                    _023__129__237__334__445
                    _036__178__249__348__458
                    _026__179__239__389__457
                    _068__139__267__349_________
                    _026__134__278__345_________
                    _099__158__224__388_________

                    ___________exact order_______
                    __0____1____2____3____4___________
                    _094__371__528__375__459
                    _203__912__327__334__454
                    _603__817__492__834__854
                    _620__197__932__398__745
                    _860__913__267__439_________
                    _026__413__827__543_________
                    _909__581__224__838_________

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                      This is the reason as I see it why the 0 and 1 will appear more frequently.
                      I would put the digit 2 in with the  0 and 1 also.

                       

                      ________box combos 
                      _0_ _1_ _2_ _3_ _4_ _5_ _6_ _7_ _8_ _9_
                      000 111 222 333 444 555 666 777 888 999
                      001 112 223 334 445 556 667 778 889
                      002 113 224 335 446 557 668 779 899
                      003 114 225 336 447 558 669 788
                      004 115 226 337 448 559 677 789
                      005 116 227 338 449 566 678 799
                      006 117 228 339 455 567 679
                      007 118 229 344 456 568 688
                      008 119 233 345 457 569 689
                      009 122 234 346 458 577 699
                      011 123 235 347 459 578
                      012 124 236 348 466 579
                      013 125 237 349 467 588
                      014 126 238 355 468 589
                      015 127 239 356 469 599
                      016 128 244 357 477
                      017 129 245 358 478
                      018 133 246 359 479
                      019 134 247 366 488
                      022 135 248 367 489
                      023 136 249 368 499
                      024 137 255 369
                      025 138 256 377
                      026 139 257 378
                      027 144 258 379
                      028 145 259 388
                      029 146 266 389
                      033 147 267 399
                      034 148 268
                      035 149 269
                      036 155 277
                      037 156 278
                      038 157 279
                      039 158 288
                      044 159 289
                      045 166 299
                      046 167
                      047 168
                      048 169
                      049 177
                      055 178
                      056 179
                      057 188
                      058 189
                      059 199
                      066
                      067
                      068
                      069
                      077
                      078
                      079
                      088
                      089
                      099

                      And why exactly would the digit 0 and 1 appear more?

                      More combos contain the 0 and 1

                      re-arrange them,
                      let the list start with the 9, then the 8, then ... to 0
                      999
                      998
                      997
                      996
                      995
                      994
                      993
                      992
                      991
                      990
                      988
                      987
                      ...

                      i assume this makes things a little clearer...


                      # 9 55
                      999 889 779 899 669 559 789 449 799
                      339 679 229 119 569 689 009 699 459
                      579 349 589 239 469 599 129 359 479
                      019 489 249 499 369 139 379 259 029
                      389 399 149 269 279 039 159 289 299
                      169 049 179 189 059 199 069 079 089
                      099


                      # 8 45
                      888 778 668 558 788 448 338 678 228
                      118 568 688 008 458 578 348 588 238
                      468 128 358 478 018 488 248 368 138
                      378 258 028 388 148 268 278 038 158
                      288 168 048 178 188 058 068 078 088

                      # 7 36
                      777 667 557 447 337 677 227 117 567
                      007 457 577 347 237 467 127 357 477
                      017 247 367 137 377 257 027 147 267
                      277 037 157 167 047 177 057 067 077

                      # 6 28
                      666 556 446 336 226 116 566 006 456
                      346 236 466 126 356 016 246 366 136
                      256 026 146 266 036 156 166 046 056
                      066

                      # 5 22
                      555 445 335 225 115 005 455 345 235
                      125 355 015 245 358 135 255 025 145
                      035 155 045 055

                      # 4 16
                      444 334 224 114 004 344 234 124 014
                      244 245 134 024 144 034 044

                      # 3 10
                      333 223 113 003 233 123 013 133 023 
                      033

                      # 2 6
                      222 112 002 122 012 022 

                      # 1 3
                      111 001 011

                      # 0 1
                      000

                       

                       

                      Yes, and?
                      Is it clearer now?

                      You wrote: "More combos contain the 0 and 1"

                      That is wrong.

                      You have now showed the combo's re-arranged. Oops, only 2 combo's contaning 0 and 1 when looking at them from the list from digit 1 and the list from digit 0.

                      Now, if you would have written "numbers that come out in game X contain more 0 and 1 than other digits", that might be the truth.
                      But it will only be true for game X, at that time.
                      I have posted statistics about the amount of times digits came out in several states. (i did not invent these, and they did not come from using math. They are the exact counts of the digits' hits.)
                      For every state the list is different.
                      Each digit is mathematically represented an even amount of times spread over the possible combo's.
                      This is a mathematical certainty that you can not make go away by some hocus pocus.

                      What you do, in the post i  quote here, is take all the combo's, count how many times digit 0 shows up, and eliminate those combo's for the counting for the next digits.
                      sorry, but that is not correct. That would only be correct to "show the combo's", not to do any counting.

                      And if you show it that way, it needs to show like this: (i will just use "4" for the example)
                      # 4 = shows 22 times  (with: 0 = 6 times, 1 = 6 times, 2 = 7 times, 3 = 6 times, 5 = 1 time, 6 = 0 times, 7 = 0 times, 8 = 0 times, 9 = 0 times)
                      444 334 224 114 004 344 234 124 014
                      244 245 134 024 144 034 044

                      Then, for each digit you list, count also the other digits together.

                      Well, no need for counting, each digit will return exactly 300 times.

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                        PAURTHS..YES YOU COULD ADD 222-299 IN THERE ALSO and I do..I was just saying..if you transfer every combination that has a zero in starting with 000-099 and then do the samething starting with 111-199 you should end up with 488 combinations..that is almost half the set where every single one of the 488 combinations has either a 0 or a 1..lol..that is why you see so many zeros come out and ones in any place..xxx..I wasnt trying to confuse anyone..just shed some light on what sfillippo found..yes..it helps with box hits but if you want to play them straight you would still need to unscramble them..sorry if I confused anyone..

                        Okay, i think i am not making myself clear... you still seem to think that combo's with 0 and/or 1 in them show more than other combo's b/c the contain 0 and/or 1...

                        perhaps this might make it more understandable: replace the 0 and 1 in your text by for example 3 and 8

                        How many combo's do you think can be made with them?

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                          We may nneed to take a look at this from another view.

                          Think of each column as a wheel. Going from lowest to highest 0 to 9 each column will only have so many digits that can hit in them.

                          0 col - digits 0 thru 9-10 digits

                          1 col -1-9---9 digits
                          2 col 2-9___8 digits
                          3 col 3-9

                          The same will occur when you go from highest to lowest.
                          Each column you are working with has a key digit which will always appear in the pick in that col.

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                            numbers that most came out, boxed
                            states picked randomly

                            AZ

                            NbrTime
                            36725
                            16923
                            17823
                            12423
                            23622
                            02622
                            16722
                            13722
                            12822
                            12722

                             

                            MD eve

                            NbrTime
                            02631
                            25625
                            03425
                            25924
                            23923
                            34823
                            18923
                            36823
                            26723
                            17822

                             

                            MO eve

                            NbrTime
                            25726
                            08925
                            12825
                            14824
                            34724
                            57824
                            18923
                            16723
                            24823
                            45822

                             

                            WC

                            NbrTime
                            08921
                            47818
                            67918
                            14917
                            05817
                            26817
                            12717
                            01716
                            24516
                            12615

                             

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                              ok do this..take all the nite draws for pic 3 I have 33 states entered in my book now for nite time pic 3s..just in the states only..

                              start with arizone..first drawing I have entered is

                              518- throughlast nite o65

                              california 998 through-052

                              connecticut 741 through-778

                              that is all the combinations I have entered for them states at this time because I just started keeping up with all of them.. that is 14 combinations for every state except those that do not draw on Sunday..so I went and counted every SINGLE COMBINATION that has come out that has a zero in it..total was 124..this group..000-099 boxed...then I counted every single combination that is in this group..111-199 boxed..total is 111...then I counted every single combination that is in the group 222-299 boxed total was 92.. zero and one will always come out more..

                              000=1  011=3  022=3  033=3  044=3  055=3  066=3  077=3  088=3  099=3

                              001=3  012=6  023=6  034=6  045=6  056=6  067=6  078=6  089=6

                              002=3  013=6  024=6  035=6  046=6  057=6  068=6  079=6

                              003=3  014=6  025=6  036=6  047=6  058=6  069=6

                              004=3  015=6  026=6  037=6  048=6  059=6 

                              005=3  016=6  027=6  038=6  049=6

                              006=3  017=6  028=6  039=6 

                              007=3  018=6  029=6

                              008=3  019=6

                              009=3

                              now..

                              999=1  777=1  788=3  xxx=1  677=3  689=6

                              888=1  778=3  789=6  667=3  678=6

                              889=3  779=3              668=3  679=6

                              899=3                            669=3  688=3

                               

                              999=1 combination

                              888-899=7 combinations

                              777-799=16 combinations

                              666-699=34 combinations

                              so as you move closer to 000-099 the combinations go up..that is why the set 000-099 has the most combinations in it that is why you see 0 come out as much as you do..and 1..because both of them sets carry the most combinations in numerical order..ie. 0 total for all 33 states 124 times..combinations in group 111-199=111..0 will always be ahead of one in any pic 3..it has the most combinations..therefore it will come out more times than one..and if one catches it..then 0 will come out many times in a row to regain the lead sorta speak..lol..I have found this to be true..and maybe I didnt make things clear enough so everyone could understand at the beginning and if that was the case maybe this explanation is more detailed to understand..