Marjorie Givens thought she hit the jackpot last month when she realized her Mega Millions ticket was worth $250,000. She matched five numbers but missed the Mega Ball.
Her second-prize payout was half that of a California resident who played the same five numbers - 27, 36, 43, 49 and 54 - and also missed the Mega Ball on the same night in the same drawing. That person took home $503,851 before taxes.
"I thought it was one lottery, equal for everybody," said Givens, of Stark County.
But the California laws that govern lottery games are different from the 11 other states in Mega Millions.
Still, the prize came two days after she turned 75, and she thought it was a nice birthday present.
"What can you do? It's the way the laws are," Givens said.
She said she had heard that the California player took home a lot more money than her and Justin Fazenbaker, of Toledo, who played the same numbers on Feb. 14 and also won Ohio's $250,000 prize for a second-place Mega Millions ticket.
California law limits lottery games to pari-mutuel prizes, meaning the amount won differs based on the number of tickets sold, said Marie Kilbane, a spokeswoman for the Ohio Lottery.
Other states have equal, flat-rate prizes for tickets that match only some of the numbers, Kilbane said.
"The only exception is California."
She said Ohio sales do not affect prize amounts in California, with the exception of the grand prize. On Tuesday, a ticket for a $265 million grand prize was sold in Cincinnati, but the winner has yet to claim it.
Only the grand prize is divided using a pari-mutuel system in all 11 states that have Mega Millions.
"With the jackpot, each state, based on sales, has to give money toward the payment of the jackpot," Kilbane said.
John Mascari plays Mega Millions when the grand prize tops $200 million. He said it doesn't seem fair that Californians can win more money for the same risk.
"It just rubs me wrong to think that different players have different rules," he said. "They should all play by the same rules."
During the past three months, however, California winners have taken home less, on average, than their Ohio counterparts. Since Feb. 3, there have been 45 secondprize Mega Millions winners in California and 18 in Ohio. On average, the California winners won $205,755.
Tuesday's drawing ended a string of four straight games in which California winners took home less than winners in other states.
On that night, 21 players from California, Georgia, Illinois, Michigan, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Texas, Virginia and Washington owned tickets that matched five numbers but missed the Mega Ball.
Nineteen of those winners will claim a prize of $250,000. The California winners, though, will claim $348,325 before taxes, a payout nearly 40 percent higher than their counterparts.
On Feb. 10, just four days before Givens won her prize, two California winners took home $693,599 each for tickets identical to ones played by residents in five other states who claimed $250,000 each.
Givens isn't too upset. At first, she thought she had matched just three numbers, which would have given her a $7 prize. When her son told her she had matched five numbers and won $250,000, she didn't believe him.
"I said, 'Quit fibbing,' " she recalled.
Her son was telling the truth. After taxes, Givens walked away with $178,750.
Officials with the California Lottery could not be reached for comment.
I agree that yes ... I would not complain about taking home $178,750 , But I do see the point. It isnt fair when it comes down to it that there is such a difference regardless of what state has more players or not. I think that it should be the same all over, but again I WOULD NOT COMPLAIN. Hell I just said this morning give me 100 thou and I would be smiling from ear to ear lol. But like the article said ... what can ya do .. NADDA Good Luck tonight on the MM
"John Mascari plays Mega Millions when the grand prize tops $200 million. He said it doesn't seem fair that Californians can win more money for the same risk."
Californians probably feel the same way when ever they end up winning less.
>During the past three months, however, California winners have taken home less, on average, than their Ohio counterparts. Since Feb. 3, there have been 45 secondprize Mega Millions winners in California and 18 in Ohio. On average, the California winners won $205,755.
Wow, that really rubs me the wrong way. Sometimes pari-mutuel winners win more than $250K, sometimes they win less. That's the risk of pari-mutuel.
>"I thought it was one lottery, equal for everybody," said Givens, of Stark County.
Yes, if you win the jackpot and if state taxes are the same everywhere. Next she can complain that some states have no state taxes on lottery winnings, which I'm sure also rubs her the wrong way.
There were 17 second-prize winners from Tuesday night's drawing: 6 from California, 3 from Georgia, 2 from Illinois, 1 from Maryland, 3 from New York, 1 from Ohio, and 1 from Washington. Each ticket matched all five lotto numbers but not the Mega Ball number to win $250,000 each. The California second prize winners will receive $68,647 each, because California does not use the fixed prize amounts used by the other Mega Millions states.
I DON'T THINK SHE WOULD OF MINDED TO MUCH IF IT TURNED OUT THIS WAY
"John Mascari plays Mega Millions when the grand prize tops $200 million. He said it doesn't seem fair that Californians can win more money for the same risk."
Californians probably feel the same way when ever they end up winning less.
Don't admit to only being an opportune jackpot player and things not being fair within the same breath, John.
"quit fibbing" on the prizes? Good luck with that. Maybe if jackpots were listed as their post-tax cash amounts there would be less confusion but that's less likely than winning MegaMillions. Only way that would happen is if someone wins a law suit but the bond companies issuing inflated annuities have far more money and power than those wishing to fight them.
I wouldn't complain about $178,750. That still is a nice amount of money.
I dont think that any of us would ... I just think that people are venting about the MISS leading information and the DOUBLE STANDARDS that come along with it
Did the grandmother play in CA? If so, I think she should have claimed it in CA for more money. Either way, congratulations to her for winning lots of money matching 5/5.
The CA payouts are not the only thing about MM that's not the same in all 12 states. Texas has the Megaplier, and of course NY and Texas (if not also NJ) require the cash/annuity choice when you PLAY.
I wouldn't complain about $178,750. That still is a nice amount of money.
I dont think that any of us would ... I just think that people are venting about the MISS leading information and the DOUBLE STANDARDS that come along with it
What misleading information? The California lottery website says that all prizes are paid on a parimutuel basis, the websites for the other MM states tell you exactly how much you'll get for any given prize level, and the rules stay the same every week. It doesn't take much more effort to find out that only the jackpot is a multi-state game, and that all of the lower prizes are handled strictly within the individual states. Not getting $265 million when that's what was advertised is misleading. Getting exactly what the rules said you'd get isn't.
This raises an interesting question. Do the individual states pay the lower prizes out of their intake with no sharing of proceeds? And proceeds are olny shared on the jackpot? They probably have to send a certain amount of each ticket to Mega HQ to cover Jackpot.
Both the PowerBall and MegaMillions states contribute approximately 32% of the money from their ticket sales to the jackpot pool. Most states will include a breakdown on their websites.
I wouldn't complain about $178,750. That still is a nice amount of money.
I dont think that any of us would ... I just think that people are venting about the MISS leading information and the DOUBLE STANDARDS that come along with it
What misleading information? The California lottery website says that all prizes are paid on a parimutuel basis, the websites for the other MM states tell you exactly how much you'll get for any given prize level, and the rules stay the same every week. It doesn't take much more effort to find out that only the jackpot is a multi-state game, and that all of the lower prizes are handled strictly within the individual states. Not getting $265 million when that's what was advertised is misleading. Getting exactly what the rules said you'd get isn't.
Were talking in advertisement. You dont go into each state and see each payout. Your local store advertises what your CHECK will be???? If so Man I am in the wrong state cause Ohio dont got it together like that. They advertised 265 Mill. NOT the correct amount of what your check payment or eft to you is going to be. That is what is misleading. That is what has always been a issue and will continue to be til they sale it correctly!
On their website Ohio has the Cash Option Value posted under the Jackpot amount. Anyone who can post at LP can read their web page.
Many of the stores selling lottery tickets don't take enough interest to maintain their card stock or update their jackpot notices, I wouldn't depend on them or their clerks for any information. One time when the lottery had a free ticket promotion, I had to tell the store clerk that the free ticket belonged to the person buying the tickets and not to the clerk selling the tickets.
On their website Ohio has the Cash Option Value posted under the Jackpot amount. Anyone who can post at LP can read their web page.
Many of the stores selling lottery tickets don't take enough interest to maintain their card stock or update their jackpot notices, I wouldn't depend on them or their clerks for any information. One time when the lottery had a free ticket promotion, I had to tell the store clerk that the free ticket belonged to the person buying the tickets and not to the clerk selling the tickets.
On their website Ohio has the Cash Option Value posted under the Jackpot amount. Anyone who can post at LP can read their web page.
They have the lump sum value but NOT what you would be taking home to the bank ... in ohio you can ALMOST cut that in half AGAIN
On their website Ohio has the Cash Option Value posted under the Jackpot amount. Anyone who can post at LP can read their web page.
Many of the stores selling lottery tickets don't take enough interest to maintain their card stock or update their jackpot notices, I wouldn't depend on them or their clerks for any information. One time when the lottery had a free ticket promotion, I had to tell the store clerk that the free ticket belonged to the person buying the tickets and not to the clerk selling the tickets.
On their website Ohio has the Cash Option Value posted under the Jackpot amount. Anyone who can post at LP can read their web page.
They have the lump sum value but NOT what you would be taking home to the bank ... in ohio you can ALMOST cut that in half AGAIN
I definitely think it's misleading when a prize is advertised as n million dollars when it's really only 45 to 60% of that, but advertising a prize as n million dollars and then paying n million dollars isn't misleading just because you have to pay taxes on it. If you went for a job interview, would you expect to be told what your salary would be or how much you'd actually have after taxes? How would an employer or the lottery even know how much your taxes would be, especially before they even know who you are? I think it would be great if more states exempted their own lottery prizes from state income taxes since the state already skimmed 50% on the ticket price, but nobody is being mislead just because some people might not know their income is taxable. The clever people can figure out about how much money a win would actually put in their pocket. For those that aren't that clever life in general may not go as well as it does for smarter people. For my part, I can think of plenty of things I'd rather be disappointed about than finding out my lottery win didn't put as much money in my pocket as I thought it would.
The CA payouts are not the only thing about MM that's not the same in all 12 states. Texas has the Megaplier, and of course NY and Texas (if not also NJ) require the cash/annuity choice when you PLAY.
Texans can win more money from the prizes under the jackpot, but that feature costs an extra $1, so that's not really unfair to the other states.
The CA payouts are not the only thing about MM that's not the same in all 12 states. Texas has the Megaplier, and of course NY and Texas (if not also NJ) require the cash/annuity choice when you PLAY.
Texans can win more money from the prizes under the jackpot, but that feature costs an extra $1, so that's not really unfair to the other states.
OHHHHH BUT I BEG TO DIFFER Keeping it "Fair" MM and PB give you to option to maximize your winnings. Texas has the megaplier others have the "Kicker" I hit alot of 2 and 7 dollar tickets BUT PAY THE EXTRA DOLLAR for the KICKER and dont get NOTHING MAXIMIZED if I dont get the kicker numbers ... BUT get a MM Ball and play the MMplier and get that times the number drawn I dont see anything FAIR about that. If we had the MMplier then my profits would be higher instead of playing the kicker and gettin Nothing. Sorry I just disagree with ya. I play PB and win on less tickets but win more money cause of the Power Play.
The CA payouts are not the only thing about MM that's not the same in all 12 states. Texas has the Megaplier, and of course NY and Texas (if not also NJ) require the cash/annuity choice when you PLAY.
Texans can win more money from the prizes under the jackpot, but that feature costs an extra $1, so that's not really unfair to the other states.
OHHHHH BUT I BEG TO DIFFER Keeping it "Fair" MM and PB give you to option to maximize your winnings. Texas has the megaplier others have the "Kicker" I hit alot of 2 and 7 dollar tickets BUT PAY THE EXTRA DOLLAR for the KICKER and dont get NOTHING MAXIMIZED if I dont get the kicker numbers ... BUT get a MM Ball and play the MMplier and get that times the number drawn I dont see anything FAIR about that. If we had the MMplier then my profits would be higher instead of playing the kicker and gettin Nothing. Sorry I just disagree with ya. I play PB and win on less tickets but win more money cause of the Power Play.
Ohio is the only MM state with Kicker. In fact _no_other_ US lottery has a game similar to Ohio Kicker.
The CA payouts are not the only thing about MM that's not the same in all 12 states. Texas has the Megaplier, and of course NY and Texas (if not also NJ) require the cash/annuity choice when you PLAY.
Texans can win more money from the prizes under the jackpot, but that feature costs an extra $1, so that's not really unfair to the other states.
The CA payouts are not the only thing about MM that's not the same in all 12 states. Texas has the Megaplier, and of course NY and Texas (if not also NJ) require the cash/annuity choice when you PLAY.
Texans can win more money from the prizes under the jackpot, but that feature costs an extra $1, so that's not really unfair to the other states.
comeon granny!! be happy!!! lol
tonight's my night...I feel it in ma bones
Cry me a river ...
$250,000 would make me happy !!!!
DD
I agree that yes ... I would not complain about taking home $178,750 , But I do see the point. It isnt fair when it comes down to it that there is such a difference regardless of what state has more players or not. I think that it should be the same all over, but again I WOULD NOT COMPLAIN. Hell I just said this morning give me 100 thou and I would be smiling from ear to ear lol. But like the article said ... what can ya do .. NADDA Good Luck tonight on the MM
"John Mascari plays Mega Millions when the grand prize tops $200 million. He said it doesn't seem fair that Californians can win more money for the same risk."
Californians probably feel the same way when ever they end up winning less.
>During the past three months, however, California winners have taken home less, on average, than their Ohio counterparts. Since Feb. 3, there have been 45 secondprize Mega Millions winners in California and 18 in Ohio. On average, the California winners won $205,755.
Wow, that really rubs me the wrong way. Sometimes pari-mutuel winners win more than $250K, sometimes they win less. That's the risk of pari-mutuel.
>"I thought it was one lottery, equal for everybody," said Givens, of Stark County.
Yes, if you win the jackpot and if state taxes are the same everywhere. Next she can complain that some states have no state taxes on lottery winnings, which I'm sure also rubs her the wrong way.
MEGA MILLIONS APRIL 11 DRAWING:
There were 17 second-prize winners from Tuesday night's drawing: 6 from California, 3 from Georgia, 2 from Illinois, 1 from Maryland, 3 from New York, 1 from Ohio, and 1 from Washington. Each ticket matched all five lotto numbers but not the Mega Ball number to win $250,000 each. The California second prize winners will receive $68,647 each, because California does not use the fixed prize amounts used by the other Mega Millions states.
I DON'T THINK SHE WOULD OF MINDED TO MUCH IF IT TURNED OUT THIS WAY
"John Mascari plays Mega Millions when the grand prize tops $200 million. He said it doesn't seem fair that Californians can win more money for the same risk."
Californians probably feel the same way when ever they end up winning less.
Don't admit to only being an opportune jackpot player and things not being fair within the same breath, John.
"quit fibbing" on the prizes? Good luck with that. Maybe if jackpots were listed as their post-tax cash amounts there would be less confusion but that's less likely than winning MegaMillions. Only way that would happen is if someone wins a law suit but the bond companies issuing inflated annuities have far more money and power than those wishing to fight them.
I wouldn't complain about $178,750. That still is a nice amount of money.
I wouldn't complain about $178,750. That still is a nice amount of money.
I dont think that any of us would ... I just think that people are venting about the MISS leading information and the DOUBLE STANDARDS that come along with it
Did the grandmother play in CA? If so, I think she should have claimed it in CA for more money. Either way, congratulations to her for winning lots of money matching 5/5.
The CA payouts are not the only thing about MM that's not the same in all 12 states. Texas has the Megaplier, and of course NY and Texas (if not also NJ) require the cash/annuity choice when you PLAY.
I wouldn't complain about $178,750. That still is a nice amount of money.
I dont think that any of us would ... I just think that people are venting about the MISS leading information and the DOUBLE STANDARDS that come along with it
What misleading information? The California lottery website says that all prizes are paid on a parimutuel basis, the websites for the other MM states tell you exactly how much you'll get for any given prize level, and the rules stay the same every week. It doesn't take much more effort to find out that only the jackpot is a multi-state game, and that all of the lower prizes are handled strictly within the individual states. Not getting $265 million when that's what was advertised is misleading. Getting exactly what the rules said you'd get isn't.
This raises an interesting question. Do the individual states pay the lower prizes out of their intake with no sharing of proceeds? And proceeds are olny shared on the jackpot? They probably have to send a certain amount of each ticket to Mega HQ to cover Jackpot.
Both the PowerBall and MegaMillions states contribute approximately 32% of the money from their ticket sales to the jackpot pool. Most states will include a breakdown on their websites.
I wouldn't complain about $178,750. That still is a nice amount of money.
I dont think that any of us would ... I just think that people are venting about the MISS leading information and the DOUBLE STANDARDS that come along with it
What misleading information? The California lottery website says that all prizes are paid on a parimutuel basis, the websites for the other MM states tell you exactly how much you'll get for any given prize level, and the rules stay the same every week. It doesn't take much more effort to find out that only the jackpot is a multi-state game, and that all of the lower prizes are handled strictly within the individual states. Not getting $265 million when that's what was advertised is misleading. Getting exactly what the rules said you'd get isn't.
Were talking in advertisement. You dont go into each state and see each payout. Your local store advertises what your CHECK will be???? If so Man I am in the wrong state cause Ohio dont got it together like that. They advertised 265 Mill. NOT the correct amount of what your check payment or eft to you is going to be. That is what is misleading. That is what has always been a issue and will continue to be til they sale it correctly!
On their website Ohio has the Cash Option Value posted under the Jackpot amount. Anyone who can post at LP can read their web page.
Many of the stores selling lottery tickets don't take enough interest to maintain their card stock or update their jackpot notices, I wouldn't depend on them or their clerks for any information. One time when the lottery had a free ticket promotion, I had to tell the store clerk that the free ticket belonged to the person buying the tickets and not to the clerk selling the tickets.
On their website Ohio has the Cash Option Value posted under the Jackpot amount. Anyone who can post at LP can read their web page.
Many of the stores selling lottery tickets don't take enough interest to maintain their card stock or update their jackpot notices, I wouldn't depend on them or their clerks for any information. One time when the lottery had a free ticket promotion, I had to tell the store clerk that the free ticket belonged to the person buying the tickets and not to the clerk selling the tickets.
On their website Ohio has the Cash Option Value posted under the Jackpot amount. Anyone who can post at LP can read their web page.
They have the lump sum value but NOT what you would be taking home to the bank ... in ohio you can ALMOST cut that in half AGAIN
On their website Ohio has the Cash Option Value posted under the Jackpot amount. Anyone who can post at LP can read their web page.
Many of the stores selling lottery tickets don't take enough interest to maintain their card stock or update their jackpot notices, I wouldn't depend on them or their clerks for any information. One time when the lottery had a free ticket promotion, I had to tell the store clerk that the free ticket belonged to the person buying the tickets and not to the clerk selling the tickets.
On their website Ohio has the Cash Option Value posted under the Jackpot amount. Anyone who can post at LP can read their web page.
They have the lump sum value but NOT what you would be taking home to the bank ... in ohio you can ALMOST cut that in half AGAIN
I definitely think it's misleading when a prize is advertised as n million dollars when it's really only 45 to 60% of that, but advertising a prize as n million dollars and then paying n million dollars isn't misleading just because you have to pay taxes on it. If you went for a job interview, would you expect to be told what your salary would be or how much you'd actually have after taxes? How would an employer or the lottery even know how much your taxes would be, especially before they even know who you are? I think it would be great if more states exempted their own lottery prizes from state income taxes since the state already skimmed 50% on the ticket price, but nobody is being mislead just because some people might not know their income is taxable. The clever people can figure out about how much money a win would actually put in their pocket. For those that aren't that clever life in general may not go as well as it does for smarter people. For my part, I can think of plenty of things I'd rather be disappointed about than finding out my lottery win didn't put as much money in my pocket as I thought it would.
The CA payouts are not the only thing about MM that's not the same in all 12 states. Texas has the Megaplier, and of course NY and Texas (if not also NJ) require the cash/annuity choice when you PLAY.
Texans can win more money from the prizes under the jackpot, but that feature costs an extra $1, so that's not really unfair to the other states.
The CA payouts are not the only thing about MM that's not the same in all 12 states. Texas has the Megaplier, and of course NY and Texas (if not also NJ) require the cash/annuity choice when you PLAY.
Texans can win more money from the prizes under the jackpot, but that feature costs an extra $1, so that's not really unfair to the other states.
OHHHHH BUT I BEG TO DIFFER Keeping it "Fair" MM and PB give you to option to maximize your winnings. Texas has the megaplier others have the "Kicker" I hit alot of 2 and 7 dollar tickets BUT PAY THE EXTRA DOLLAR for the KICKER and dont get NOTHING MAXIMIZED if I dont get the kicker numbers ... BUT get a MM Ball and play the MMplier and get that times the number drawn I dont see anything FAIR about that. If we had the MMplier then my profits would be higher instead of playing the kicker and gettin Nothing. Sorry I just disagree with ya. I play PB and win on less tickets but win more money cause of the Power Play.
The CA payouts are not the only thing about MM that's not the same in all 12 states. Texas has the Megaplier, and of course NY and Texas (if not also NJ) require the cash/annuity choice when you PLAY.
Texans can win more money from the prizes under the jackpot, but that feature costs an extra $1, so that's not really unfair to the other states.
OHHHHH BUT I BEG TO DIFFER Keeping it "Fair" MM and PB give you to option to maximize your winnings. Texas has the megaplier others have the "Kicker" I hit alot of 2 and 7 dollar tickets BUT PAY THE EXTRA DOLLAR for the KICKER and dont get NOTHING MAXIMIZED if I dont get the kicker numbers ... BUT get a MM Ball and play the MMplier and get that times the number drawn I dont see anything FAIR about that. If we had the MMplier then my profits would be higher instead of playing the kicker and gettin Nothing. Sorry I just disagree with ya. I play PB and win on less tickets but win more money cause of the Power Play.
Ohio is the only MM state with Kicker. In fact _no_other_ US lottery has a game similar to Ohio Kicker.
The CA payouts are not the only thing about MM that's not the same in all 12 states. Texas has the Megaplier, and of course NY and Texas (if not also NJ) require the cash/annuity choice when you PLAY.
Texans can win more money from the prizes under the jackpot, but that feature costs an extra $1, so that's not really unfair to the other states.
ryanm:
Thanksssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????
"Whatchaaaaaaaaa Seee"
is what you getttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt.....................
"vote"............ in the illegal immigrants poll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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post script:........read the fine print, if you don't,,,,,,,,,don't BITCHHHHHHHHHHHH
The CA payouts are not the only thing about MM that's not the same in all 12 states. Texas has the Megaplier, and of course NY and Texas (if not also NJ) require the cash/annuity choice when you PLAY.
Texans can win more money from the prizes under the jackpot, but that feature costs an extra $1, so that's not really unfair to the other states.
ryanm:
Thanksssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????
"Whatchaaaaaaaaa Seee"
is what you getttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt.....................
"vote"............ in the illegal immigrants poll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
PSYKOMO
post script:........read the fine print, if you don't,,,,,,,,,don't BITCHHHHHHHHHHHH
NY lottery players don't care about the fine print. I'm MUCH smarter than the average NY lottery player.