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Online Lottery Soon to be Illegal/new law

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Posted: May 11, 2006, 11:51 pm - IP Logged

  I just seen a story (that I did not get the exact details about) on MSNBC news channel Tucker carlson show.  And they said there is a new bill that if it passes, will make ALL online gambling a federal crime!   And worse yet it is likely to  pass.  So that will be the end of playing lottery online because the gov is upset because they are not getting taxes from it. 

  If somebody else knows anymore details can they post them here? 

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    Posted: May 11, 2006, 11:57 pm - IP Logged

    They run the show again at 2:00 am EST which is in 2 hours from now I'm gonna try to get more details.

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      Posted: May 12, 2006, 12:05 am - IP Logged

      think this will happen todd???

      i hope it doesn't but if it does it will suck.........

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          I just seen a story (that I did not get the exact details about) on MSNBC news channel Tucker carlson show.  And they said there is a new bill that if it passes, will make ALL online gambling a federal crime!   And worse yet it is likely to  pass.  So that will be the end of playing lottery online because the gov is upset because they are not getting taxes from it. 

          If somebody else knows anymore details can they post them here? 

        Yep, it's all about money. If the government isn't getting any "income tax" from the gambling, they will declare it illegal.

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          Posted: May 12, 2006, 1:41 am - IP Logged

           I don't think it's just that....too many operators are "offshore", there's too many scammers, and for some it's just too addictive.

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            Posted: May 12, 2006, 2:01 am - IP Logged

            these politicians are the real criminals,lol......

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              Posted: May 12, 2006, 2:11 am - IP Logged
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                Posted: May 12, 2006, 2:24 am - IP Logged

                thanks laverne!

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                  Posted: May 12, 2006, 2:53 am - IP Logged
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                      Don't they have better things to do like seal off the border? Instead they wanna throw people in prison for playing the lottery in their own homes?  What a dumb idea!  They won't hunt down illegal immigrants and send them home.  But they will hunt down US born citizens for playing lottery on the internet in the privacy of their own homes? 

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                      Posted: May 12, 2006, 5:43 am - IP Logged

                      No, the best one yet is that they let US Corporations send YOUR job overseas, but you can't make a buck from an off shore gaming site!

                      Wake up America, write to your rep in congress and tell them to stop the non sense, that you want off shore gaming.

                      Perhaps we should ship congress off shore, maybe that will wake them up.

                      As to the non sense on taxation, if I won a million dollars offshore from a lottery and was paid I would in fact owe and pay US taxes on that million dollars. For one how the hell could I not report such a large sum since all the bells and sirens would go off as soon as it hit my US bank account. Transactions of $10,000.00 or more are reported to the feds, big brother is watching and listening for that matter, did you hear they are gathering info on your telephone conversations........Wake up America!

                       

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                         I agree!!! I have no problem with paying taxes if I ever won playing online don't get me wrong. I don't want people to think that I'm against paying taxes.  I would be too scared not to pay my fair share.  I just don't like the idea of being restricted from gambling online.  They just need to verify that people are paying taxes on their winnings, they do not need to make it illegal.  At least if they would allow people to play online and just make sure they pay taxes on their winnings I could see that makes some sense.  But its like they don't trust us so they are forcing us. 

                          They are going to make it a Felony, not a minor misdemeanor , but a federal offense!  I would rather make drunk driving a felony. There was a guy on tv the other day that killed a family in a accident, and he had 21 prior DUIs.  And he was still driving because they were just minor driving offenses. He never did more than a week in jail. So why don't they make alcohol illegal then, do you know how many people are killed by drunk drivers?  That should be a felony if anything should be.  But since they get alot of taxes from alcohol its A-OK with them.   And alcohol kills more people than all the illegal drugs combined.  But they would rather just make online gambling a felony  instead. 

                         

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                          Posted: May 12, 2006, 7:19 am - IP Logged

                            I just seen a story (that I did not get the exact details about) on MSNBC news channel Tucker carlson show.  And they said there is a new bill that if it passes, will make ALL online gambling a federal crime!   And worse yet it is likely to  pass.  So that will be the end of playing lottery online because the gov is upset because they are not getting taxes from it. 

                            If somebody else knows anymore details can they post them here? 

                          It's already illegal.  It always has been. You can't use the phone lines to make bets.

                          But they can't enforce it, so they haven't been. Remember, it's one thing to make a law (politicians are great at making laws that they can't enforce) and another thing entirely to come up with the resources to enforce that law.

                          Also, when enough people do something against the law, it becomes unenforcable. They can't put that many people in jail. (or even deport them.....as evidenced by the 12 million Illegal Immigrants we have in the USA now which the govt can never round up and do anything about because they don't have the resources) A lot of laws are barely worth the paper they're written upon.

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                            Posted: May 12, 2006, 8:55 am - IP Logged

                            If its already illegal then people who already won and had money placed in their bank accounts could still be arrested in the future at some date.  And even if a person reports their winnings for tax purposes, wouldnt that be like admitting that you broke the law by even playing the online casino lotteries?  That would be like turning yourself in for breaking the law.  They might round everybody up later I'm sure they keep tabs.  All I wanna know is how much time do we have left before its over, a month a year or what?

                              Just because there are millions of illegal immigrants doesn't mean that law enforcement can't round up as many as they can get.  Millions of Americans smoke pot and law enforcement doesn't look the other way, they arrest them and throw them in jail.  Why would they just let illegals go with a nod and a wink?

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                              Posted: May 12, 2006, 9:05 am - IP Logged

                              This isn't the first time this subject has been discussed on LP.  In fact, I didn't see the video, but someone gave a URL for articles on MSNBC and the newest article was in 2004. 

                              Concerning if it is now illegal ... yes, but only for the businesses that are doing it, NOT the people that are betting.  That will change if the new law goes into effect.  The businesses that are overseas can not be touched by the United States, so that is why it is going on right now.

                              The way I understand the bill (H.R. 4411) is that it would be legal for Indian Gaming to do it.  You know they will take advantage of that.  With other offshore businesses having to stop their lotto business, the Indian Tribes would be wise to get a share of that money.