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online poll....will H.R. 411 become law?

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will H.R. 411 bill pass and become a law

no it won't pass [ 14 ]  [30.43%]
yes it will pass [ 28 ]  [60.87%]
not sure [ 4 ]  [8.70%]
Total Valid Votes [ 46 ]  
Discarded Votes [ 9 ]  
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Posted: May 16, 2006, 4:13 pm - IP Logged

The Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006 H.R. 4411
H.R. 4411 would prohibit businesses from accepting credit cards, checks, or other bank instruments from gamblers who illegally bet over the Internet. It also would direct the Department of the Treasury and the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (the Federal Reserve) to issue regulations outlining policies and procedures that could be used by financial institutions to identify and block gambling-related transactions that are transmitted through their payment systems. Compliance with those prohibitions and regulations would be enforced by various federal agencies as well as state governments, and violations would be subject to new civil remedies and criminal penalties. Finally, the bill would require the Secretary of the Treasury to report annually to the Congress on any international deliberations regarding Internet gambling


i got this from ATOMIC DOG,thanks for this info......

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    Posted: May 16, 2006, 4:22 pm - IP Logged

    i voted no it won't pass......

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      Posted: May 16, 2006, 4:34 pm - IP Logged

      Given the identities of the forces in favor of passing, I'd say it's got a good shot at becoming law.

      Who wants it passed?

      • US casinos and those who profit from them.
      • Every legal lottery operation in the US.
      • Probably every Taxation and Revenue Department, Federal and State.

      Who is opposed to it?

      • People who gamble on the Internet.
      • People who don't gamble on the Internet, but are concerned about government regulation and oversight of Internet activities.

      Strikes me one side has the heavy artillery, which equates to having God on their side.

      Jack

      Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

      It's about number behavior.

      Egos don't count.

       

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        Posted: May 16, 2006, 8:10 pm - IP Logged

        I have to agree, this will probably pass.  Online gambling makes billions of dollars every year that don't go to the big casinos.  It mostly goes to offshore operations because it's illegal for US businesses to engage in the activity.  No taxes pouring into US coffers.  There's no reason for it not to pass, really.

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          Posted: May 16, 2006, 8:26 pm - IP Logged

          Given the identities of the forces in favor of passing, I'd say it's got a good shot at becoming law.

          Who wants it passed?

          • US casinos and those who profit from them.
          • Every legal lottery operation in the US.
          • Probably every Taxation and Revenue Department, Federal and State.

          Who is opposed to it?

          • People who gamble on the Internet.
          • People who don't gamble on the Internet, but are concerned about government regulation and oversight of Internet activities.

          Strikes me one side has the heavy artillery, which equates to having God on their side.

          Jack

          Sorry to say.............but I voted ....."YES".....it will p-assss !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          DONOT want my "vote" to come true, let me state..

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            Posted: May 16, 2006, 8:33 pm - IP Logged

            So if they have stiff penalties that go with violation they may take all your cash,confiscate bank accounts, automobiles, real estate.

            They are going to strip you naked.

            The money you earn belongs to the federal gov't and they will tell you what to do with it.

            Oo'Ka

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              Posted: May 16, 2006, 9:13 pm - IP Logged

              Given the identities of the forces in favor of passing, I'd say it's got a good shot at becoming law.

              Who wants it passed?

              • US casinos and those who profit from them.
              • Every legal lottery operation in the US.
              • Probably every Taxation and Revenue Department, Federal and State.

              Who is opposed to it?

              • People who gamble on the Internet.
              • People who don't gamble on the Internet, but are concerned about government regulation and oversight of Internet activities.

              Strikes me one side has the heavy artillery, which equates to having God on their side.

              Jack

              I Agree!

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                Posted: May 16, 2006, 9:16 pm - IP Logged

                 

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                  Posted: May 16, 2006, 9:39 pm - IP Logged

                  What I think one of the problems is with the gov't having an issue with online gambling is that money is taken out of circulation in the U.S.

                  Take money out of circulation creates a drain on tax revenue.

                  Every dollar spent in the U.S. changes hand many times thruout the year which is taxable by one means or another every time circulated.

                   

                  Oo'Ka

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                    Posted: May 16, 2006, 9:53 pm - IP Logged

                    As I have said in another post, it took them a while but they did the same with cigarettes not being allowed to be purchased with credit cards so I would not be surprised if it happens with lottery.

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                      Posted: May 16, 2006, 10:55 pm - IP Logged

                      As I have said in another post, it took them a while but they did the same with cigarettes not being allowed to be purchased with credit cards so I would not be surprised if it happens with lottery.

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                        Posted: May 17, 2006, 12:11 am - IP Logged

                        Here's the facts, it will be passed. The Republicans have the majority and they are the party of theocracy and helping those who don't need help. And since gambling is supposedly forbidden by the bible and/or hurts (nominally) the booming casino business. And don't think for a second they won't enforce it.

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                          Posted: May 17, 2006, 1:46 am - IP Logged

                          Given the identities of the forces in favor of passing, I'd say it's got a good shot at becoming law.

                          Who wants it passed?

                          • US casinos and those who profit from them.
                          • Every legal lottery operation in the US.
                          • Probably every Taxation and Revenue Department, Federal and State.

                          Who is opposed to it?

                          • People who gamble on the Internet.
                          • People who don't gamble on the Internet, but are concerned about government regulation and oversight of Internet activities.

                          Strikes me one side has the heavy artillery, which equates to having God on their side.

                          Jack

                          On the want it passed side obviously the tribal casinos who are paying for it.

                          On the opposing side but only if they are smart is every state that has a lottery. Internet sales like what they are doing in BC, Canada and the National lottery in the UK is the future of lottery sales. If states don't act against this they could limit their ability to make money in the future. 

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                            Posted: May 17, 2006, 1:26 pm - IP Logged

                            I think it will pass. Simple reason is that on line betting effects every state that has a lottery.

                            On the other side , someone will figure out a way to get around it. Betslips will move it's operations off shore.

                            Good example is the Cruise Ship Industry, very few of the Cruise ships that pull into our ports
                            are registered in the USA.  Why, because with offshore registration they don't pay US taxes on all
                            of the cruise tickets they sell. 

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                              Posted: May 17, 2006, 3:46 pm - IP Logged

                              Does anyone here see any loophole or "work-around" available to us that will allow us to play at Betslips or other online lottery sites at HR 4411 is passed?

                               

                              Please share your ideas ..... if you have any in relation to this issue.

                               

                              Thanks!

                              Good Luck,

                              John

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