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No digit returns Pick 4 Singles only

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Posted: June 13, 2006, 3:59 pm - IP Logged

Thanx Fernando,

btw, this "no digit return" does also seem to work for pick3-doubles.

At least, it seems to work alot.

It can even be narrowed down further, since using 8 digits to create doubles you'll end up with 56 doubles.
By using 1 of the 2 vtracs from the previous double as a "must have", you'll end up with 26 doubles... (depending on the previous double ofcourse, since this can be a triple vtrac, then you'll end up with the 56 again, since you will be excluding both digits so also that vtrac lol)

For pick4 this makes not much difference, since you'll end up with only 15 24-way numbers.

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    Posted: June 13, 2006, 4:25 pm - IP Logged

    Pick4:

    CT midday has not had this, a no-digit return for 24-way numbers, for 29 draws/times...

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      Posted: June 13, 2006, 4:50 pm - IP Logged

      This is all very interesting.

      Welcome back WIN D & Paurths!

      I just posted on another thread what the percentages are for Singles in a Pick-4 environment. Could you play them even with digit returns on a skip pattern? Or is that just way too many combos?

       

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        This is all very interesting.

        Welcome back WIN D & Paurths!

        I just posted on another thread what the percentages are for Singles in a Pick-4 environment. Could you play them even with digit returns on a skip pattern? Or is that just way too many combos?

         

        Hi Keith,

        boxed: There are 210 24-ways.
        Say you would wheel after another 24-way and the numbers must have at least of the digits from the last draw, that would leave you with 195 numbers.
        After a double, that would leave you with 175 numbers.
        After a double-double, 140 numbers
        After a triple, 140 numbers.
        After a quad, lol, that would be 84 numbers.

        Skip-averages for numbers, for NJ eve, for 8614 draws:
        24-way: average skip: 1.96 draws, longest ever 13 draws
        Double: average skip: 2.25 draws, longest ever 14 draws
        Double-double: average skip: 25.41 draws, longest ever 231 draws
        Triple: average skip: 20.22 draws, longest ever 170 draws
        Quad: average skip: 783.09, longest ever 3298 draws

        NJ eve might have a double-double anytime now.

        Amount of repeating digits from draw to next draw:
        0 digits: av. skip 4.94 draws, longest ever 32 draws
        1 digit: av. skip 2.2 draws, longest ever 15 draws
        2 digits: av. skip 3.47 draws, longest ever 21 draws
        3 digits: av. skip 18.6 draws, longest ever 194 draws
        4 digits (full return): av. skip 538.38 draws, longest ever 1980 draws

        cheers
        Ricky

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          Posted: June 13, 2006, 5:09 pm - IP Logged

          Thanks Ricky

          That is interesting. I did a spreadsheet on Pick 4 not too long ago where you would wheel 7,8 or 9 numbers to come up with some plays. You would play only singles as well, and maybe a skip. Would be glad to share if you think that would be useful information.

           

          Keith

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            Posted: June 13, 2006, 5:15 pm - IP Logged

            Also for NJ eve,

            Amount of repeating vtracs from draw to next draw:
            0 : av. skip 20.76 draws, longest ever 136 draws
            1 : av. skip 3.74 draws, longest ever 32 draws
            2 : av. skip 2.26 draws, longest ever 20 draws
            3 : av. skip 4.54 draws, longest ever 33 draws
            4 (full vtrac return): av. skip 47.07 draws, longest ever 294 draws

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              Posted: June 13, 2006, 9:04 pm - IP Logged

              Welcome back Ricky, how was France?

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                Posted: June 14, 2006, 2:00 am - IP Logged

                Thanx LottoChica23,

                it was great, was the first time i went to that part, the kids loved it too, most of western europe was covered under a cold-front the first week,
                we had rain for about 2 minutes on those 14 days and temperature never went lower than 20 degrees (celcius)

                cheers
                Ricky

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                  Posted: June 14, 2006, 7:12 am - IP Logged

                  Ricky,

                  That sounds like perfect weather. We just had the remnants of a Tropical Storm/Hurricane come through here last night and it's lingering today...nasty weather to be sure.

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