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CD - lottolaughs has a thread going of the strings for certain states.  He/She also stated the strings are good for 10 days.

Please share with us ANY of these methods you have used since the 1980's that have been playing/created/purchased, etc. so we may get a better grasp of the pick 5.

Maybe you can provide us with a shorter string of numbers that produce the JACKPOT within 10 days from all these years of use with these programs you have purchased.

Thanks for taking the time to post so we can see what you have!

 

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    calabs

    I like your thought process on this...sometimes it's not worth the extra risk by going to a larger wheel if the return isn't there. I have actually heard that the 3if4 wheel is probably one of the better ones for all states. I am curious about SC though to be sure.

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      CD - lottolaughs has a thread going of the strings for certain states.  He/She also stated the strings are good for 10 days.

      Please share with us ANY of these methods you have used since the 1980's that have been playing/created/purchased, etc. so we may get a better grasp of the pick 5.

      Maybe you can provide us with a shorter string of numbers that produce the JACKPOT within 10 days from all these years of use with these programs you have purchased.

      Thanks for taking the time to post so we can see what you have!

       

      I have posted in the different threads that lottolaugh has going.

      You are making my point for me, Zoozie.  I could share a lot of methods, but up to now none of them have been profitable.  That is the point I am trying to make.  Lottolaughs thinks the strings will work.  Maybe they will, but I have not seen any profit yet.  I know the strings are good for 10 days.  So far in California the best the strings did in two days was 1 number correct.  Yesterday there were none correct in all 7 strings.  To get a 4if4 you have to bet $288 per draw in California.  So far, no wins.

       

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        calabs

        I like your thought process on this...sometimes it's not worth the extra risk by going to a larger wheel if the return isn't there. I have actually heard that the 3if4 wheel is probably one of the better ones for all states. I am curious about SC though to be sure.

        I have found, and you will find a number of people here on LP that agree with this, that the best wheels are the 3if3, 4if4, and 5if5.  The 3if4 is actually make by combining two wheels (3if3 and 4if4).  This makes the win even harder.  Even a 2if2 is a great wheel to play.  Most people don't do it, but I sometimes get a 3 but I get a LOT of 2 correct.

         

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          JD

          I am very new to the Pick 5 game...in fact, I can't believe I have started an interest in it seeing as I can't make sense of the P3 & P4! :)

          How many combos are with each wheel? And do most states give prizes for 2 numbers correct?

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            Just let me inject something here....as everyone knows, a wheel is a good as the numbers put into it.  Chosing the right numbers for ANY wheel is the challenge.  In defense of Gail Howard's wheels, I have been using her 3if4 wheel with very good success.  There have been several times where I have gotten 4 numbers in the wheel and still trapped the numbers for the 4 number prize.  In NJ, the payout for 4 numbers is pretty good, usually over $500.  I play my wheel when I think the numbers are due.  Since January of this year, I have hit 8  4-number prizes and countless 3-number prizes.  I use a wheel which has 16 numbers which costs $37.  One draw, when I had all five numbers in the wheel come out, I had 3-4 number wins and 8 3 number wins.  Just last week, I had all five numbers come out, and I had 1 4-number win and 8 3-number wins.  I have tried 4if4 wheels, 3if3 wheels, and 3if5 wheels but have had essentially ALL my success with the 3if4 wheel.  The cost to go up to a 4if4 wheel is not worth the risk, IMHO.  One of the thing that Gail has in her P5 wheel system is the ability to see how your wheel has done in the past for a given state.  Even with a 4if4 wheel, there are very few 5 number wins.  Granted, there are MANY more 4 number wins, but again, the price of the wheel is too high.  One must also keep in mind that as you go from a 4 number win to a 5 number win, the odds jump dramatically (depending on the number of balls).   

            Thank you so much for this calebs! You said it a lot better then I could!!

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              Just let me inject something here....as everyone knows, a wheel is a good as the numbers put into it.  Chosing the right numbers for ANY wheel is the challenge.  In defense of Gail Howard's wheels, I have been using her 3if4 wheel with very good success.  There have been several times where I have gotten 4 numbers in the wheel and still trapped the numbers for the 4 number prize.  In NJ, the payout for 4 numbers is pretty good, usually over $500.  I play my wheel when I think the numbers are due.  Since January of this year, I have hit 8  4-number prizes and countless 3-number prizes.  I use a wheel which has 16 numbers which costs $37.  One draw, when I had all five numbers in the wheel come out, I had 3-4 number wins and 8 3 number wins.  Just last week, I had all five numbers come out, and I had 1 4-number win and 8 3-number wins.  I have tried 4if4 wheels, 3if3 wheels, and 3if5 wheels but have had essentially ALL my success with the 3if4 wheel.  The cost to go up to a 4if4 wheel is not worth the risk, IMHO.  One of the thing that Gail has in her P5 wheel system is the ability to see how your wheel has done in the past for a given state.  Even with a 4if4 wheel, there are very few 5 number wins.  Granted, there are MANY more 4 number wins, but again, the price of the wheel is too high.  One must also keep in mind that as you go from a 4 number win to a 5 number win, the odds jump dramatically (depending on the number of balls).   

              Calabs, you seem to be the expert.  Why don't you start a thread and show us how you pick the numbers.  I agree with everything you said.  I have said many many times on LP that a wheel is only as good as the numbers put into it.  That is a given.  So, please share with us how to pick the numbers.  We can decide on the wheel!!

               

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                This thread may have not fooled anyone, but it has certainly got a lot of people hanging on for the next response hoping to learn how to match 5/5 in the RC5 game.

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                  Just let me inject something here....as everyone knows, a wheel is a good as the numbers put into it.  Chosing the right numbers for ANY wheel is the challenge.  In defense of Gail Howard's wheels, I have been using her 3if4 wheel with very good success.  There have been several times where I have gotten 4 numbers in the wheel and still trapped the numbers for the 4 number prize.  In NJ, the payout for 4 numbers is pretty good, usually over $500.  I play my wheel when I think the numbers are due.  Since January of this year, I have hit 8  4-number prizes and countless 3-number prizes.  I use a wheel which has 16 numbers which costs $37.  One draw, when I had all five numbers in the wheel come out, I had 3-4 number wins and 8 3 number wins.  Just last week, I had all five numbers come out, and I had 1 4-number win and 8 3-number wins.  I have tried 4if4 wheels, 3if3 wheels, and 3if5 wheels but have had essentially ALL my success with the 3if4 wheel.  The cost to go up to a 4if4 wheel is not worth the risk, IMHO.  One of the thing that Gail has in her P5 wheel system is the ability to see how your wheel has done in the past for a given state.  Even with a 4if4 wheel, there are very few 5 number wins.  Granted, there are MANY more 4 number wins, but again, the price of the wheel is too high.  One must also keep in mind that as you go from a 4 number win to a 5 number win, the odds jump dramatically (depending on the number of balls).   

                  Calabs, you seem to be the expert.  Why don't you start a thread and show us how you pick the numbers.  I agree with everything you said.  I have said many many times on LP that a wheel is only as good as the numbers put into it.  That is a given.  So, please share with us how to pick the numbers.  We can decide on the wheel!!

                   

                  JD - my "system" is quite simple (not a system at all, actually).  Using Gail Howard's P5 wheeling program, I played with just about every wheel imaginable, and just about every combo of numbers imaginable (within a certain budget that is).  Looking at past history over the several years that the NJ Cash game has been in existance, I tracked how the numbers trend, and which number combos seem to repeat.  Her Lottery Advantage software allows you to track numbers pretty easily, and which numbers tend to fall with others.  After sifting through all the data, I picked 16 numbers to go into the 3if4 wheel.  I have a few wheels that have subtle differences, but for the most part the numbers are almost identical.  I follow the draws to see when I think the numbers will come back, then start playing. 

                  I've tried changing numbers almost on a daily basis, but have had no success with that.  NJ is a little harder to crack since it has 40 balls, where most have 39 or less.  I think the odds go up by ~100,000:1 from 39 to 40 balls. 

                  One other thing I like about Gail's wheeling system is you can change the position of the numbers pretty easily, sorting either by total number count or spread.  I've found that this helps dramatically with how successful the wheel can be (by backtesting each permutation of the wheel).

                  Hope this helps!

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                    I just did a simple wheel test on one of the 4if4's on the Resources page...came up with 200 some combos...backtested with SC Palmetto Cash 5...it hit a jackpot on one of those draws. I wish I had written it down, but got me excited. I did the wheel with the highest frequencies drawn in the past 100 draws. That seemed to work, and gave a bunch of 4-number prizes over the past 30 draws or so. Profitable there anyway.

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                      calabs

                      I like your thought process on this...sometimes it's not worth the extra risk by going to a larger wheel if the return isn't there. I have actually heard that the 3if4 wheel is probably one of the better ones for all states. I am curious about SC though to be sure.

                      Keith - The Gail Howard programs really have given me a genuine perspective of how easy (hard) it is to hit the Cash 5, and how moving up or down to a higher or lower wheel will do for you.  For example, using NJ history, I can take a 3if4 wheel with 16 numbers and go through the history of the draws to get how many 3's , 4's , and 5's were hit.  You may be surprised that the 4if4 wheel doesn't do much for the jackpot.  Of course you will see lots more 4 number prizes, but again, the cost of this wheel is high.  I've also tried higher wheels with Power Number(s).  Although the cost of the wheel goes down as a function of how many power numbers you have, it is STILL very difficult to hit with a system like that as you are relying on the power numbers to hit in order to get a prize.  Make sense?

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                        I just did a simple wheel test on one of the 4if4's on the Resources page...came up with 200 some combos...backtested with SC Palmetto Cash 5...it hit a jackpot on one of those draws. I wish I had written it down, but got me excited. I did the wheel with the highest frequencies drawn in the past 100 draws. That seemed to work, and gave a bunch of 4-number prizes over the past 30 draws or so. Profitable there anyway.

                        How many numbers does SC have in their C5?

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                          Just let me inject something here....as everyone knows, a wheel is a good as the numbers put into it.  Chosing the right numbers for ANY wheel is the challenge.  In defense of Gail Howard's wheels, I have been using her 3if4 wheel with very good success.  There have been several times where I have gotten 4 numbers in the wheel and still trapped the numbers for the 4 number prize.  In NJ, the payout for 4 numbers is pretty good, usually over $500.  I play my wheel when I think the numbers are due.  Since January of this year, I have hit 8  4-number prizes and countless 3-number prizes.  I use a wheel which has 16 numbers which costs $37.  One draw, when I had all five numbers in the wheel come out, I had 3-4 number wins and 8 3 number wins.  Just last week, I had all five numbers come out, and I had 1 4-number win and 8 3-number wins.  I have tried 4if4 wheels, 3if3 wheels, and 3if5 wheels but have had essentially ALL my success with the 3if4 wheel.  The cost to go up to a 4if4 wheel is not worth the risk, IMHO.  One of the thing that Gail has in her P5 wheel system is the ability to see how your wheel has done in the past for a given state.  Even with a 4if4 wheel, there are very few 5 number wins.  Granted, there are MANY more 4 number wins, but again, the price of the wheel is too high.  One must also keep in mind that as you go from a 4 number win to a 5 number win, the odds jump dramatically (depending on the number of balls).   

                          Calabs, you seem to be the expert.  Why don't you start a thread and show us how you pick the numbers.  I agree with everything you said.  I have said many many times on LP that a wheel is only as good as the numbers put into it.  That is a given.  So, please share with us how to pick the numbers.  We can decide on the wheel!!

                           

                          JD - my "system" is quite simple (not a system at all, actually).  Using Gail Howard's P5 wheeling program, I played with just about every wheel imaginable, and just about every combo of numbers imaginable (within a certain budget that is).  Looking at past history over the several years that the NJ Cash game has been in existance, I tracked how the numbers trend, and which number combos seem to repeat.  Her Lottery Advantage software allows you to track numbers pretty easily, and which numbers tend to fall with others.  After sifting through all the data, I picked 16 numbers to go into the 3if4 wheel.  I have a few wheels that have subtle differences, but for the most part the numbers are almost identical.  I follow the draws to see when I think the numbers will come back, then start playing. 

                          I've tried changing numbers almost on a daily basis, but have had no success with that.  NJ is a little harder to crack since it has 40 balls, where most have 39 or less.  I think the odds go up by ~100,000:1 from 39 to 40 balls. 

                          One other thing I like about Gail's wheeling system is you can change the position of the numbers pretty easily, sorting either by total number count or spread.  I've found that this helps dramatically with how successful the wheel can be (by backtesting each permutation of the wheel).

                          Hope this helps!

                          Thank you for sharing.  I don't have nor need the GH wheels.  These days very good wheels can be found here on LP and elsewhere.  Also I use a couple of other programs just to see how they compare, but the programs are not as good in many cases as the wheels you find already made up.

                          A 3if4/16 is 32 tickets.  Not bad.  I will try that.

                          Thanks again.

                           

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                            You're welcome JD.  Good luck to you!

                            Yes, there are quite a few wheels around to chose from.  I'm not trying to push any one wheeling system.....just wanted to explain what works for me.....in this case it was GH's....  So far I haven't found one with more flexibility and tracking capabilities.

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                              Tonight,July 6th's results so far:

                              Colorado--(5 ) 3 spot winners

                              Illinois--(2)  3 spots

                              Iowa--(4)  3 spots

                              Maryland--(2)  3+bonus /  (1)  2+bonus  /  (2)    3 spots

                              Missouri--(2)  3 spots

                              Still waiting on FLA. GA. and TX.