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Pencil and Paper Jackpot Calculations

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How much time do you spend figuring up your jackpot game number selections?

15 minutes or less [ 13 ]  [29.55%]
Up to 30 minutes [ 3 ]  [6.82%]
About one hour [ 7 ]  [15.91%]
Two hours [ 5 ]  [11.36%]
Three or four hours [ 6 ]  [13.64%]
An entire day's work [ 2 ]  [4.55%]
Three or four days [ 5 ]  [11.36%]
Other (please explain) [ 3 ]  [6.82%]
Total Valid Votes [ 44 ]  
Discarded Votes [ 3 ]  
hypersoniq's avatar - 8ball
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Posted: August 15, 2006, 6:00 am - IP Logged

Backtesting is the fun part for me. It has allowed me to dismiss every system I have come up with so far as nothing more than coincidental. Of course in games of chance, past results bear no indication whatsoever on future performance... it is fun to try though.

I broke down and bought "Statistics for Dummies". I can see just from skimming it that I was completely mis-using excel in my favorite home-brew stat system for PB. Once I finish reading the book, I may just revive that system from the archives. I finally got it whittled down to a one-line system.

I am in the process of re-learning math... somethng I do every 8-10 years just to keep sharp.. from basic arithmetic to (this time) calculus... I'm about done review on basic math and starting off in the fun? world of algebra. Math is like riding a bike, you always remember how to dart around like a tourist with a rental, but without constant practice, you'll never make it to the X-games...

Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.

    RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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    Posted: August 15, 2006, 2:33 pm - IP Logged

    hypersoniq,

    If a system wins coincidentally once in a while and do better than the calculated odds, isn't that's proof that it's doing something right?  If spite of all posts about systems that work, if more players back tested their systems, they might come to the same conclusions as you.  My systems haven't won any big prizes but picking lottery numbers randomly just isn't my style, win or lose I enjoy picking the numbers I play.  Good luck to you.

    RJOh

     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
       
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      Posted: August 15, 2006, 2:40 pm - IP Logged

      This is the deal.

      I don't try to figure it out.  Too much work.  Usually doesn't pay off.  I have purchased quick picks and had maybe 1 or 2 of the numbers on a ticket of 5 picks.  So... My new system is this.  Buy a quick pick and play everything except what is on the ticket. 

       

      This should not take more than 5 minutes.  Hopefully you'll win at least $3.00.

       

      Dance

        RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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        Posted: August 15, 2006, 8:57 pm - IP Logged

        If you want work that pays then you get a job that pays wages.  Very few people can get paid for doing something that's entertaining, picking lottery numbers is entertaining for me like solving a crossword puzzle or playing checkers, winning a jackpot or second prize would be icing on the cake.  Quick picks are the way to go if you just want to be in the game for a chance to win.

         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
           
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          Posted: August 15, 2006, 10:07 pm - IP Logged


          Voted 15 or less!

          Never ........................found software to be """"""GOOD""""""""

          Used .........................spreadsheets to TRACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          PLAYED a lot of QUICK-PICK$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

          collected.....................lot of $16-$$18-$$$20.......ticketssssss!!

          LOL

          PSYKOMO 

          What numbers do you have to hit to get a $16-$18-$20 payout ???

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            Posted: August 15, 2006, 10:42 pm - IP Logged

            What numbers do you have to hit to get a $16-$18-$20 payout ???

            By exercising the Power Play option and/or having multiple 0+1, 1+1, 2+1, or 3+0 hits on say a $5 ticket, $16, $18, or $20 payouts would be quite possible.

            aye'

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              Posted: August 16, 2006, 12:21 am - IP Logged

              What numbers do you have to hit to get a $16-$18-$20 payout ???


              guesser:

              Saw your post today.................(good????????) as many, donot know

              PSYKOMO has been on the "EDGE" of a JACKPOT all $UMMER with the

              PICK-5..............Kamunettttttteeee!

              Hitt'in 3 or more#

              #######'$$$$

              WON......that small

              CHANGE many........ time$$$$$$$$$$

              LOL

              PSYKOMO 

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                Posted: August 16, 2006, 1:00 pm - IP Logged

                I don't use software, but if someone finds it helpful in picking and organizing numbers I say go for it.

                Dance like no one is watching.


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                  Posted: August 17, 2006, 12:47 am - IP Logged

                  ayenowitall, my vote was within 15 minutes or less. Once MM, PB, and/or CA SLP gives us draw results, I make my predictions for the next draw.

                  I don't usually use pencil or pen and paper to do a jackpot calculation. However, within 15 minutes of when PB and/or MM rolled or not, I usually predict my 15 WBs and 5 BBs based on results, cold numbers, and +/- math.

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                    Posted: August 17, 2006, 12:54 am - IP Logged

                    By exercising the Power Play option and/or having multiple 0+1, 1+1, 2+1, or 3+0 hits on say a $5 ticket, $16, $18, or $20 payouts would be quite possible.

                    aye'

                    I figured that, but in reality, how many folks play the powerplay option ?

                    Time for another poll..... 

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                      Posted: August 17, 2006, 10:56 pm - IP Logged

                      I figured that, but in reality, how many folks play the powerplay option ?

                      Time for another poll..... 

                      "...and/or...."


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                        Posted: August 24, 2006, 1:50 pm - IP Logged

                        I play PowerPlay up to a certain level. Above it I go for the jackpot.

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                          Posted: August 28, 2006, 7:21 pm - IP Logged

                          I don't PowerPlay because it's too tough to win anything. With a game that has odds as high as Powerball, I figure you should either play for it all or don't play. Playing the extra $1 is like admitting you'll settle for #2.

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                            boston
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                            Posted: August 29, 2006, 1:38 pm - IP Logged

                            I do not spend more then 1 hour trying to guess the best numbers. However i have writen a program that takes input from "Keno" draws (about 3000 lattest draws) and tells how many times each number came up or how many times a certain combination has shown up.

                            the system has given little result.

                            I would like my program to tell me which combination of two or three or four numbers or more has shown up more often. Dont know if this is the right forum but if anyone out there knows how to do this, it would be appreciated

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                              Posted: August 29, 2006, 8:37 pm - IP Logged

                              I do not spend more then 1 hour trying to guess the best numbers. However i have writen a program that takes input from "Keno" draws (about 3000 lattest draws) and tells how many times each number came up or how many times a certain combination has shown up.

                              the system has given little result.

                              I would like my program to tell me which combination of two or three or four numbers or more has shown up more often. Dont know if this is the right forum but if anyone out there knows how to do this, it would be appreciated

                              I have an excel macro that will search Keno numbers if you import them into an Excel table, from there you have to:

                              tell it how many numbers you want it to look for, and then

                              tell it WHAT numbers you want it to look for.

                               

                              I thought I had a great idea - SURELY one set of 6 or 8 numbers would come up every 500-800 games or so, but I haven't found that combination yet.