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# interesting technique

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The Carolinas - Charlotte
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 Posted: August 19, 2006, 9:43 am - IP Logged

My pleasure...let me know if you need a copy of the wheels/progressions...then you can run it along with your other tests.

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cps10,

Thanks for doing all those back tests, but I'm not sure I'm following how you are turning a profit.

Here in NY it looks like roughly 50% of the time the winning numbers were from the last three draws. However there are stilll usually 7 numbers to choose from even when they are from the last three draws. That would mean approx. 350 combos. I get that as a \$200 (at \$1/bet) loss for each winner. (350 x 2 = \$700 at \$1 a bet minus \$500 win = \$200 loss).

I envisioned this technique as a way to reduce your odds and use in conjunction with other methods. Am I missing something here?

Thanks.

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My pleasure...let me know if you need a copy of the wheels/progressions...then you can run it along with your other tests.

Yes that would be very handy to have, how do i go about getting it?

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cps10,

forgive my newbie-ness but by progression do you mean increasing the bet because the odds of (whatever system/numbers) hitting go up if it hasn't happened yet? Why would one need a table for this though? Is there some mathematical formula to apply?

If this is what you mean by progression, then I guess it would be possible to turn a profit with this technique. I think it would still be risky though, and one would need a bit of a bankroll to pull it off, it at all.

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hi in On.........is probably same as in NY.........i tested only 30 days and only four draws came from last three draws.......so it becomes guessing games which days to choose ......no profit here.......

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tianca and lucky,

I use a progressive betting strategy...meaning you increase your bets as you lose. The mathematics of it will allow for a hit within a few draws, playing the same numbers. Any win that you get wipes out any losses that you have incurred up to that point.

I will be glad to put NY & ON on here a little later today.

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To all,

 Draw SGL #s Bet/Unit Units SGL Bet DBL #s Bet/Unit Units DBL Bet If Loss SGL Win DBL Win 6-digit wheel 1 30 \$7.50 1 \$7.50 20 \$5.00 1 \$5.00 (\$12.50) \$25.00 \$62.50 2 30 \$7.50 1 \$7.50 20 \$5.00 1 \$5.00 (\$25.00) \$12.50 \$50.00 3 30 \$7.50 2 \$15.00 20 \$5.00 1 \$5.00 (\$45.00) \$30.00 \$30.00 4 30 \$7.50 2 \$15.00 20 \$5.00 1 \$5.00 (\$65.00) \$10.00 \$10.00 5 30 \$7.50 3 \$22.50 20 \$5.00 2 \$10.00 (\$97.50) \$15.00 \$52.50 6 30 \$7.50 4 \$30.00 20 \$5.00 2 \$10.00 (\$137.50) \$12.50 \$12.50 7 30 \$7.50 6 \$45.00 20 \$5.00 3 \$15.00 (\$197.50) \$27.50 \$27.50 8 30 \$7.50 8 \$60.00 20 \$5.00 4 \$20.00 (\$277.50) \$22.50 \$22.50 9 30 \$7.50 11 \$82.50 20 \$5.00 6 \$30.00 (\$390.00) \$22.50 \$60.00 10 30 \$7.50 15 \$112.50 20 \$5.00 8 \$40.00 (\$542.50) \$20.00 \$57.50 11 30 \$7.50 20 \$150.00 20 \$5.00 10 \$50.00 (\$742.50) \$7.50 \$7.50 12 30 \$7.50 28 \$210.00 20 \$5.00 14 \$70.00 (\$1,022.50) \$27.50 \$27.50 Draw SGL #s Bet/Unit Units SGL Bet DBL #s Bet/Unit Units DBL Bet If Loss SGL Win DBL Win 7-digit wheel 1 35 \$8.75 1 \$8.75 42 \$10.50 1 \$10.50 (\$19.25) \$18.25 \$55.75 2 35 \$8.75 2 \$17.50 42 \$10.50 1 \$10.50 (\$47.25) \$27.75 \$27.75 3 35 \$8.75 3 \$26.25 42 \$10.50 2 \$21.00 (\$94.50) \$18.00 \$55.50 4 35 \$8.75 5 \$43.75 42 \$10.50 3 \$31.50 (\$169.75) \$17.75 \$55.25 5 35 \$8.75 8 \$70.00 42 \$10.50 4 \$42.00 (\$281.75) \$18.25 \$18.25 6 35 \$8.75 12 \$105.00 42 \$10.50 6 \$63.00 (\$449.75) \$0.25 \$0.25 7 35 \$8.75 20 \$175.00 42 \$10.50 10 \$105.00 (\$729.75) \$20.25 \$20.25 8 35 \$8.75 32 \$280.00 42 \$10.50 16 \$168.00 (\$1,177.75) \$22.25 \$22.25 Draw SGL #s Bet/Unit Units SGL Bet DBL #s Bet/Unit Units DBL Bet If Loss SGL Win DBL Win 8-digit wheel 1 56 \$14.00 1 \$14.00 56 \$14.00 1 \$14.00 (\$28.00) \$9.50 \$47.00 2 56 \$14.00 2 \$28.00 56 \$14.00 1 \$14.00 (\$70.00) \$5.00 \$5.00 3 56 \$14.00 5 \$70.00 56 \$14.00 3 \$42.00 (\$182.00) \$5.50 \$43.00 4 56 \$14.00 12 \$168.00 56 \$14.00 6 \$84.00 (\$434.00) \$16.00 \$16.00 5 56 \$14.00 28 \$392.00 56 \$14.00 14 \$196.00 (\$1,022.00) \$28.00 \$28.00 6 56 \$14.00 62 \$868.00 56 \$14.00 31 \$434.00 (\$2,324.00) \$1.00 \$1.00 Draw SGL #s Bet/Unit Units SGL Bet DBL #s Bet/Unit Units DBL Bet If Loss SGL Win DBL Win 9-digit wheel 1 84 \$21.00 2 \$42.00 72 \$18.00 1 \$18.00 (\$60.00) \$15.00 \$15.00 2 84 \$21.00 10 \$210.00 72 \$18.00 5 \$90.00 (\$360.00) \$15.00 \$15.00 3 84 \$21.00 50 \$1,050.00 72 \$18.00 25 \$450.00 (\$1,860.00) \$15.00 \$15.00 4 84 \$21.00 250 \$5,250.00 72 \$18.00 125 \$2,250.00 (\$9,360.00) \$15.00 \$15.00 Draw SGL #s Bet/Unit Units SGL Bet DBL #s Bet/Unit Units DBL Bet If Loss SGL Win DBL Win 4-digit wheel 1 4 \$1.00 1 \$1.00 12 \$3.00 1 \$3.00 (\$4.00) \$33.50 \$71.00 2 4 \$1.00 1 \$1.00 12 \$3.00 1 \$3.00 (\$8.00) \$29.50 \$67.00 3 4 \$1.00 1 \$1.00 12 \$3.00 1 \$3.00 (\$12.00) \$25.50 \$63.00 4 4 \$1.00 1 \$1.00 12 \$3.00 1 \$3.00 (\$16.00) \$21.50 \$59.00 5 4 \$1.00 1 \$1.00 12 \$3.00 1 \$3.00 (\$20.00) \$17.50 \$55.00 6 4 \$1.00 1 \$1.00 12 \$3.00 1 \$3.00 (\$24.00) \$13.50 \$51.00 7 4 \$1.00 1 \$1.00 12 \$3.00 1 \$3.00 (\$28.00) \$9.50 \$47.00 8 4 \$1.00 1 \$1.00 12 \$3.00 1 \$3.00 (\$32.00) \$5.50 \$43.00 9 4 \$1.00 1 \$1.00 12 \$3.00 1 \$3.00 (\$36.00) \$1.50 \$39.00 10 4 \$1.00 2 \$2.00 12 \$3.00 1 \$3.00 (\$41.00) \$34.00 \$34.00 11 4 \$1.00 2 \$2.00 12 \$3.00 1 \$3.00 (\$46.00) \$29.00 \$29.00 12 4 \$1.00 2 \$2.00 12 \$3.00 1 \$3.00 (\$51.00) \$24.00 \$24.00 13 4 \$1.00 2 \$2.00 12 \$3.00 1 \$3.00 (\$56.00) \$19.00 \$19.00 14 4 \$1.00 2 \$2.00 12 \$3.00 1 \$3.00 (\$61.00) \$14.00 \$14.00 15 4 \$1.00 2 \$2.00 12 \$3.00 1 \$3.00 (\$66.00) \$9.00 \$9.00 16 4 \$1.00 2 \$2.00 12 \$3.00 1 \$3.00 (\$71.00) \$4.00 \$4.00 17 4 \$1.00 3 \$3.00 12 \$3.00 2 \$6.00 (\$80.00) \$32.50 \$70.00 18 4 \$1.00 3 \$3.00 12 \$3.00 2 \$6.00 (\$89.00) \$23.50 \$61.00 19 4 \$1.00 3 \$3.00 12 \$3.00 2 \$6.00 (\$98.00) \$14.50 \$52.00 20 4 \$1.00 3 \$3.00 12 \$3.00 2 \$6.00 (\$107.00) \$5.50 \$43.00 21 4 \$1.00 4 \$4.00 12 \$3.00 2 \$6.00 (\$117.00) \$33.00 \$33.00 22 4 \$1.00 4 \$4.00 12 \$3.00 2 \$6.00 (\$127.00) \$23.00 \$23.00 23 4 \$1.00 4 \$4.00 12 \$3.00 2 \$6.00 (\$137.00) \$13.00 \$13.00 24 4 \$1.00 4 \$4.00 12 \$3.00 2 \$6.00 (\$147.00) \$3.00 \$3.00 25 4 \$1.00 5 \$5.00 12 \$3.00 3 \$9.00 (\$161.00) \$26.50 \$64.00 26 4 \$1.00 5 \$5.00 12 \$3.00 3 \$9.00 (\$175.00) \$12.50 \$50.00 27 4 \$1.00 6 \$6.00 12 \$3.00 3 \$9.00 (\$190.00) \$35.00 \$35.00 28 4 \$1.00 6 \$6.00 12 \$3.00 3 \$9.00 (\$205.00) \$20.00 \$20.00 29 4 \$1.00 6 \$6.00 12 \$3.00 3 \$9.00 (\$220.00) \$5.00 \$5.00 30 4 \$1.00 7 \$7.00 12 \$3.00 4 \$12.00 (\$239.00) \$23.50 \$61.00 Draw SGL #s Bet/Unit Units SGL Bet DBL #s Bet/Unit Units DBL Bet If Loss SGL Win DBL Win 5-digit wheel 1 10 \$2.50 1 \$2.50 20 \$5.00 1 \$5.00 (\$7.50) \$30.00 \$67.50 2 10 \$2.50 1 \$2.50 20 \$5.00 1 \$5.00 (\$15.00) \$22.50 \$60.00 3 10 \$2.50 1 \$2.50 20 \$5.00 1 \$5.00 (\$22.50) \$15.00 \$52.50 4 10 \$2.50 1 \$2.50 20 \$5.00 1 \$5.00 (\$30.00) \$7.50 \$45.00 5 10 \$2.50 2 \$5.00 20 \$5.00 1 \$5.00 (\$40.00) \$35.00 \$35.00 6 10 \$2.50 2 \$5.00 20 \$5.00 1 \$5.00 (\$50.00) \$25.00 \$25.00 7 10 \$2.50 2 \$5.00 20 \$5.00 1 \$5.00 (\$60.00) \$15.00 \$15.00 8 10 \$2.50 2 \$5.00 20 \$5.00 1 \$5.00 (\$70.00) \$5.00 \$5.00 9 10 \$2.50 3 \$7.50 20 \$5.00 2 \$10.00 (\$87.50) \$25.00 \$62.50 10 10 \$2.50 3 \$7.50 20 \$5.00 2 \$10.00 (\$105.00) \$7.50 \$45.00 11 10 \$2.50 4 \$10.00 20 \$5.00 2 \$10.00 (\$125.00) \$25.00 \$25.00 12 10 \$2.50 4 \$10.00 20 \$5.00 2 \$10.00 (\$145.00) \$5.00 \$5.00 13 10 \$2.50 5 \$12.50 20 \$5.00 3 \$15.00 (\$172.50) \$15.00 \$52.50 14 10 \$2.50 6 \$15.00 20 \$5.00 3 \$15.00 (\$202.50) \$22.50 \$22.50 15 10 \$2.50 7 \$17.50 20 \$5.00 4 \$20.00 (\$240.00) \$22.50 \$60.00 16 10 \$2.50 8 \$20.00 20 \$5.00 4 \$20.00 (\$280.00) \$20.00 \$20.00 17 10 \$2.50 9 \$22.50 20 \$5.00 5 \$25.00 (\$327.50) \$10.00 \$47.50 18 10 \$2.50 11 \$27.50 20 \$5.00 6 \$30.00 (\$385.00) \$27.50 \$65.00 19 10 \$2.50 13 \$32.50 20 \$5.00 7 \$35.00 (\$452.50) \$35.00 \$72.50 20 10 \$2.50 15 \$37.50 20 \$5.00 8 \$40.00 (\$530.00) \$32.50 \$70.00 21 10 \$2.50 17 \$42.50 20 \$5.00 9 \$45.00 (\$617.50) \$20.00 \$57.50 22 10 \$2.50 20 \$50.00 20 \$5.00 10 \$50.00 (\$717.50) \$32.50 \$32.50 23 10 \$2.50 23 \$57.50 20 \$5.00 12 \$60.00 (\$835.00) \$27.50 \$65.00 24 10 \$2.50 26 \$65.00 20 \$5.00 13 \$65.00 (\$965.00) \$10.00 \$10.00 25 10 \$2.50 30 \$75.00 20 \$5.00 15 \$75.00 (\$1,115.00) \$10.00 \$10.00 26 10 \$2.50 35 \$87.50 20 \$5.00 18 \$90.00 (\$1,292.50) \$20.00 \$57.50 27 10 \$2.50 40 \$100.00 20 \$5.00 20 \$100.00 (\$1,492.50) \$7.50 \$7.50 28 10 \$2.50 46 \$115.00 20 \$5.00 23 \$115.00 (\$1,722.50) \$2.50 \$2.50 29 10 \$2.50 54 \$135.00 20 \$5.00 27 \$135.00 (\$1,992.50) \$32.50 \$32.50 30 10 \$2.50 62 \$155.00 20 \$5.00 31 \$155.00 (\$2,302.50) \$22.50 \$22.50

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thanks cps

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You are very welcome!

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Results for NEW YORK EVENING:

\$374 profit on a max drawdown of \$679; a 55.081% ROI....very nice indeed

Results for NEW YORK MIDDAY:

\$625 profit on a max drawdown of \$508; a 123.01% ROI - IMPRESSIVE!!

Results for ONTARIO:

\$448 profit on a max drawdown of \$378; a 118.519% ROI - ALMOST AS IMPRESSIVE!

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thank you cps10.........i think i need to study more........we pay here 1 dollar for 1 bet...i still don't see how i profit........but maybe i am not understanding the concept properly.......thank you for your work.........will try to be better student........

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thank you cps10.........i think i need to study more........we pay here 1 dollar for 1 bet...i still don't see how i profit........but maybe i am not understanding the concept properly.......thank you for your work.........will try to be better student........

tianca

Not a problem. I forgot to mention that this is for online play only, not at your neighborhood lottery retailer.

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