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Posted: August 19, 2006, 9:43 am - IP Logged

My pleasure...let me know if you need a copy of the wheels/progressions...then you can run it along with your other tests.

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    cps10,

    Thanks for doing all those back tests, but I'm not sure I'm following how you are turning a profit.

    Here in NY it looks like roughly 50% of the time the winning numbers were from the last three draws. However there are stilll usually 7 numbers to choose from even when they are from the last three draws. That would mean approx. 350 combos. I get that as a $200 (at $1/bet) loss for each winner. (350 x 2 = $700 at $1 a bet minus $500 win = $200 loss).

    I envisioned this technique as a way to reduce your odds and use in conjunction with other methods. Am I missing something here?

    Thanks.

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      Posted: August 19, 2006, 10:55 am - IP Logged

      My pleasure...let me know if you need a copy of the wheels/progressions...then you can run it along with your other tests.

      Yes that would be very handy to have, how do i go about getting it?

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        Posted: August 19, 2006, 11:30 am - IP Logged

        cps10,

        forgive my newbie-ness but by progression do you mean increasing the bet because the odds of (whatever system/numbers) hitting go up if it hasn't happened yet? Why would one need a table for this though? Is there some mathematical formula to apply?

        If this is what you mean by progression, then I guess it would be possible to turn a profit with this technique. I think it would still be risky though, and one would need a bit of a bankroll to pull it off, it at all.

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          Posted: August 19, 2006, 12:24 pm - IP Logged

          hi in On.........is probably same as in NY.........i tested only 30 days and only four draws came from last three draws.......so it becomes guessing games which days to choose ......no profit here.......

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            Posted: August 19, 2006, 12:49 pm - IP Logged

            tianca and lucky,

            I use a progressive betting strategy...meaning you increase your bets as you lose. The mathematics of it will allow for a hit within a few draws, playing the same numbers. Any win that you get wipes out any losses that you have incurred up to that point.

            I will be glad to put NY & ON on here a little later today.

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              Posted: August 19, 2006, 12:52 pm - IP Logged

              To all,

              Here is the progression/wheel tables. These are based on $0.25 bets at the online store. If you want it in Excel, just PM me your email address.

               

              DrawSGL #sBet/UnitUnitsSGL BetDBL #sBet/UnitUnitsDBL BetIf LossSGL WinDBL Win6-digit wheel
              130$7.50 1$7.50 20$5.00 1$5.00 ($12.50)$25.00 $62.50
              230$7.50 1$7.50 20$5.00 1$5.00 ($25.00)$12.50 $50.00
              330$7.50 2$15.00 20$5.00 1$5.00 ($45.00)$30.00 $30.00
              430$7.50 2$15.00 20$5.00 1$5.00 ($65.00)$10.00 $10.00
              530$7.50 3$22.50 20$5.00 2$10.00 ($97.50)$15.00 $52.50
              630$7.50 4$30.00 20$5.00 2$10.00 ($137.50)$12.50 $12.50
              730$7.50 6$45.00 20$5.00 3$15.00 ($197.50)$27.50 $27.50
              830$7.50 8$60.00 20$5.00 4$20.00 ($277.50)$22.50 $22.50
              930$7.50 11$82.50 20$5.00 6$30.00 ($390.00)$22.50 $60.00
              1030$7.50 15$112.50 20$5.00 8$40.00 ($542.50)$20.00 $57.50
              1130$7.50 20$150.00 20$5.00 10$50.00 ($742.50)$7.50 $7.50
              1230$7.50 28$210.00 20$5.00 14$70.00 ($1,022.50)$27.50 $27.50
              DrawSGL #sBet/UnitUnitsSGL BetDBL #sBet/UnitUnitsDBL BetIf LossSGL WinDBL Win7-digit wheel
              135$8.75 1$8.75 42$10.50 1$10.50 ($19.25)$18.25 $55.75
              235$8.75 2$17.50 42$10.50 1$10.50 ($47.25)$27.75 $27.75
              335$8.75 3$26.25 42$10.50 2$21.00 ($94.50)$18.00 $55.50
              435$8.75 5$43.75 42$10.50 3$31.50 ($169.75)$17.75 $55.25
              535$8.75 8$70.00 42$10.50 4$42.00 ($281.75)$18.25 $18.25
              635$8.75 12$105.00 42$10.50 6$63.00 ($449.75)$0.25 $0.25
              735$8.75 20$175.00 42$10.50 10$105.00 ($729.75)$20.25 $20.25
              835$8.75 32$280.00 42$10.50 16$168.00 ($1,177.75)$22.25 $22.25
              DrawSGL #sBet/UnitUnitsSGL BetDBL #sBet/UnitUnitsDBL BetIf LossSGL WinDBL Win8-digit wheel
              156$14.00 1$14.00 56$14.00 1$14.00 ($28.00)$9.50 $47.00
              256$14.00 2$28.00 56$14.00 1$14.00 ($70.00)$5.00 $5.00
              356$14.00 5$70.00 56$14.00 3$42.00 ($182.00)$5.50 $43.00
              456$14.00 12$168.00 56$14.00 6$84.00 ($434.00)$16.00 $16.00
              556$14.00 28$392.00 56$14.00 14$196.00 ($1,022.00)$28.00 $28.00
              656$14.00 62$868.00 56$14.00 31$434.00 ($2,324.00)$1.00 $1.00
              DrawSGL #sBet/UnitUnitsSGL BetDBL #sBet/UnitUnitsDBL BetIf LossSGL WinDBL Win9-digit wheel
              184$21.00 2$42.00 72$18.00 1$18.00 ($60.00)$15.00 $15.00
              284$21.00 10$210.00 72$18.00 5$90.00 ($360.00)$15.00 $15.00
              384$21.00 50$1,050.00 72$18.00 25$450.00 ($1,860.00)$15.00 $15.00
              484$21.00 250$5,250.00 72$18.00 125$2,250.00 ($9,360.00)$15.00 $15.00
              DrawSGL #sBet/UnitUnitsSGL BetDBL #sBet/UnitUnitsDBL BetIf LossSGL WinDBL Win4-digit wheel
              14$1.00 1$1.00 12$3.00 1$3.00 ($4.00)$33.50 $71.00
              24$1.00 1$1.00 12$3.00 1$3.00 ($8.00)$29.50 $67.00
              34$1.00 1$1.00 12$3.00 1$3.00 ($12.00)$25.50 $63.00
              44$1.00 1$1.00 12$3.00 1$3.00 ($16.00)$21.50 $59.00
              54$1.00 1$1.00 12$3.00 1$3.00 ($20.00)$17.50 $55.00
              64$1.00 1$1.00 12$3.00 1$3.00 ($24.00)$13.50 $51.00
              74$1.00 1$1.00 12$3.00 1$3.00 ($28.00)$9.50 $47.00
              84$1.00 1$1.00 12$3.00 1$3.00 ($32.00)$5.50 $43.00
              94$1.00 1$1.00 12$3.00 1$3.00 ($36.00)$1.50 $39.00
              104$1.00 2$2.00 12$3.00 1$3.00 ($41.00)$34.00 $34.00
              114$1.00 2$2.00 12$3.00 1$3.00 ($46.00)$29.00 $29.00
              124$1.00 2$2.00 12$3.00 1$3.00 ($51.00)$24.00 $24.00
              134$1.00 2$2.00 12$3.00 1$3.00 ($56.00)$19.00 $19.00
              144$1.00 2$2.00 12$3.00 1$3.00 ($61.00)$14.00 $14.00
              154$1.00 2$2.00 12$3.00 1$3.00 ($66.00)$9.00 $9.00
              164$1.00 2$2.00 12$3.00 1$3.00 ($71.00)$4.00 $4.00
              174$1.00 3$3.00 12$3.00 2$6.00 ($80.00)$32.50 $70.00
              184$1.00 3$3.00 12$3.00 2$6.00 ($89.00)$23.50 $61.00
              194$1.00 3$3.00 12$3.00 2$6.00 ($98.00)$14.50 $52.00
              204$1.00 3$3.00 12$3.00 2$6.00 ($107.00)$5.50 $43.00
              214$1.00 4$4.00 12$3.00 2$6.00 ($117.00)$33.00 $33.00
              224$1.00 4$4.00 12$3.00 2$6.00 ($127.00)$23.00 $23.00
              234$1.00 4$4.00 12$3.00 2$6.00 ($137.00)$13.00 $13.00
              244$1.00 4$4.00 12$3.00 2$6.00 ($147.00)$3.00 $3.00
              254$1.00 5$5.00 12$3.00 3$9.00 ($161.00)$26.50 $64.00
              264$1.00 5$5.00 12$3.00 3$9.00 ($175.00)$12.50 $50.00
              274$1.00 6$6.00 12$3.00 3$9.00 ($190.00)$35.00 $35.00
              284$1.00 6$6.00 12$3.00 3$9.00 ($205.00)$20.00 $20.00
              294$1.00 6$6.00 12$3.00 3$9.00 ($220.00)$5.00 $5.00
              304$1.00 7$7.00 12$3.00 4$12.00 ($239.00)$23.50 $61.00
              DrawSGL #sBet/UnitUnitsSGL BetDBL #sBet/UnitUnitsDBL BetIf LossSGL WinDBL Win5-digit wheel
              110$2.50 1$2.50 20$5.00 1$5.00 ($7.50)$30.00 $67.50
              210$2.50 1$2.50 20$5.00 1$5.00 ($15.00)$22.50 $60.00
              310$2.50 1$2.50 20$5.00 1$5.00 ($22.50)$15.00 $52.50
              410$2.50 1$2.50 20$5.00 1$5.00 ($30.00)$7.50 $45.00
              510$2.50 2$5.00 20$5.00 1$5.00 ($40.00)$35.00 $35.00
              610$2.50 2$5.00 20$5.00 1$5.00 ($50.00)$25.00 $25.00
              710$2.50 2$5.00 20$5.00 1$5.00 ($60.00)$15.00 $15.00
              810$2.50 2$5.00 20$5.00 1$5.00 ($70.00)$5.00 $5.00
              910$2.50 3$7.50 20$5.00 2$10.00 ($87.50)$25.00 $62.50
              1010$2.50 3$7.50 20$5.00 2$10.00 ($105.00)$7.50 $45.00
              1110$2.50 4$10.00 20$5.00 2$10.00 ($125.00)$25.00 $25.00
              1210$2.50 4$10.00 20$5.00 2$10.00 ($145.00)$5.00 $5.00
              1310$2.50 5$12.50 20$5.00 3$15.00 ($172.50)$15.00 $52.50
              1410$2.50 6$15.00 20$5.00 3$15.00 ($202.50)$22.50 $22.50
              1510$2.50 7$17.50 20$5.00 4$20.00 ($240.00)$22.50 $60.00
              1610$2.50 8$20.00 20$5.00 4$20.00 ($280.00)$20.00 $20.00
              1710$2.50 9$22.50 20$5.00 5$25.00 ($327.50)$10.00 $47.50
              1810$2.50 11$27.50 20$5.00 6$30.00 ($385.00)$27.50 $65.00
              1910$2.50 13$32.50 20$5.00 7$35.00 ($452.50)$35.00 $72.50
              2010$2.50 15$37.50 20$5.00 8$40.00 ($530.00)$32.50 $70.00
              2110$2.50 17$42.50 20$5.00 9$45.00 ($617.50)$20.00 $57.50
              2210$2.50 20$50.00 20$5.00 10$50.00 ($717.50)$32.50 $32.50
              2310$2.50 23$57.50 20$5.00 12$60.00 ($835.00)$27.50 $65.00
              2410$2.50 26$65.00 20$5.00 13$65.00 ($965.00)$10.00 $10.00
              2510$2.50 30$75.00 20$5.00 15$75.00 ($1,115.00)$10.00 $10.00
              2610$2.50 35$87.50 20$5.00 18$90.00 ($1,292.50)$20.00 $57.50
              2710$2.50 40$100.00 20$5.00 20$100.00 ($1,492.50)$7.50 $7.50
              2810$2.50 46$115.00 20$5.00 23$115.00 ($1,722.50)$2.50 $2.50
              2910$2.50 54$135.00 20$5.00 27$135.00 ($1,992.50)$32.50 $32.50
              3010$2.50 62$155.00 20$5.00 31$155.00 ($2,302.50)$22.50 $22.50

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                Posted: August 19, 2006, 1:55 pm - IP Logged

                thanks cps

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                  You are very welcome!

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                    Results for NEW YORK EVENING:

                    $374 profit on a max drawdown of $679; a 55.081% ROI....very nice indeed

                    Results for NEW YORK MIDDAY:

                    $625 profit on a max drawdown of $508; a 123.01% ROI - IMPRESSIVE!!

                     

                    Results for ONTARIO:

                    $448 profit on a max drawdown of $378; a 118.519% ROI - ALMOST AS IMPRESSIVE!

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                      thank you cps10.........i think i need to study more........we pay here 1 dollar for 1 bet...i still don't see how i profit........but maybe i am not understanding the concept properly.......thank you for your work.........will try to be better student........

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                        thank you cps10.........i think i need to study more........we pay here 1 dollar for 1 bet...i still don't see how i profit........but maybe i am not understanding the concept properly.......thank you for your work.........will try to be better student........

                        tianca

                        Not a problem. I forgot to mention that this is for online play only, not at your neighborhood lottery retailer.

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