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I read a lot about partical physics because the subject interests me. One fact which I found tantalizing is the fact that at the sub-atomic level, physicists can not predict with any degree of exactness what will happen and when. At best they can only deal in probabilities. But out of this quantum foam comes the world as we see it. Everything is ordered ( to an extent); everything can be mathematically described.
Not so with randomness which is the sub-atomic world.
If the randomness of the sub-atomic world can result in a much bigger picture, then the randomness of the lottery should also result in a much bigger picture, i.e. be mathematically descirbed.
The insight needed now is to find a way to pull all that randomness (I am here talking about the lottery) into a coherent picture.
One thought I have is that we are getting too much involved in "what happened yesterday" when we should be looking at "what happened precisely three weeks ago compared to today?" And every third week going back to the beginning. What might that do?
While the above is so elementary I would not waste time on doing it, I do think there is a pattern which, when found, would bring some relevance to those draws which fit the pattern.
And this relevance would be subject to the laws of mathematics.
I also believe that the answer lies with the concept of odd/even.
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Quote: Originally posted by GASMETERGUY on Sep 19, 2006
I read a lot about partical physics because the subject interests me. One fact which I found tantalizing is the fact that at the sub-atomic level, physicists can not predict with any degree of exactness what will happen and when. At best they can only deal in probabilities. But out of this quantum foam comes the world as we see it. Everything is ordered ( to an extent); everything can be mathematically described.
Not so with randomness which is the sub-atomic world.
If the randomness of the sub-atomic world can result in a much bigger picture, then the randomness of the lottery should also result in a much bigger picture, i.e. be mathematically descirbed.
The insight needed now is to find a way to pull all that randomness (I am here talking about the lottery) into a coherent picture.
One thought I have is that we are getting too much involved in "what happened yesterday" when we should be looking at "what happened precisely three weeks ago compared to today?" And every third week going back to the beginning. What might that do?
While the above is so elementary I would not waste time on doing it, I do think there is a pattern which, when found, would bring some relevance to those draws which fit the pattern.
And this relevance would be subject to the laws of mathematics.
I also believe that the answer lies with the concept of odd/even.
But the concept of odd/even may take centuries to even out.
If you flip a coin, at what point will you have a 50/50 even split of heads and tails ?
When does it stop ? When you get to 50/50 ?
After all of that, in choosing numbers, at what point do you arrive at a coincidence vs. something that happens 'because it is mathamatically supposed to' ?
I do not think you will EVER be able to decide; 'OK, these 6 numbers will hit in the next game', but I DO think that you CAN narrow it down to a pool of, say 15 numbers, and, depending on how many you want to wheel ($$$$), go from there, but it will have to span 3-4 drawings. That, and it will take LUCK to hit it. And that's just a Powerball Pick 5, not the jackpot.
I 'see' things that 'should' hit quite often, sometimes I am wrong, and sometimes I am off by just a few games, it will take LUCK to hit it, so I just keep crackin', looking for holes in my theories, or something else to add to them.
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GASMETERGUY,
I saw those same ideas expressed on a series of public TV programs about the "string theory" or a "theory of everything".
Years ago I worked in an Industrial Engineering Department where I participated in time and work sample studies and was surprised after the randomness of work sample studies which covered the whole plant were compiled that they almost alway had the same results as individual time studies made in single areas of the plant as the same time. A person walking through the whole plant making split seconds observations for a work sample study could calculate the time a machine attendant spent during different types of work as accurately as a person standing there and time studying that attendant during the same period of time.
I always thought that something similar could be used to pick the most likely winning combinations in future drawings.
* you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *
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Quote: Originally posted by GASMETERGUY on Sep 18, 2006
I have been mulling this thread over and over ever since you published it, RJOH. I have arrived at a conclusion I am sure no one else will agree with or take a share in.
I do not feel that mathematics as we know it today will suffice to describe the lottory. There is just too much randomness. The best mathematics can do is tell us the probability of all possible outcomes.
The answer, therefore, resides in inventing a whole new branch of mathematics. Gone are the plus, minus, multiply and divide signs of the old math. Let enter new symbols, new meanings, and new operatons.
The only problem I have is a starting point. LOL.
Hi Gasmeterguy,
You mentioned something "new". Maybe a deep foray into Vedic Mathematics could be useful starting point. Vedic Math is said to transcend calculus, trigonometry, algebra, and etc...
Unfortunately the Vedic Mathematic books created by Bharati Krsna Tirthaji between 1911-1918, where he rediscovers and mathematically expounds on the 16 Word Formulae of a particular ancient sutras called the GANITA Sutra have been lost. He created 1 book for each sutra - totaling 16 of them. At the request of disciples he quickly rewrote a summary of the 16 into one book, and from that we have gleaned a little about Vedic(Indian) Mathematics. There has been reward to return those 16 books to its Indian birthplace.
Anyway, check out www.Jainmathemagics.com . Its a great site where a brilliant man called Jain introduces vedic math, and other tools that could possibly be helpful in turning seeming chaos and mathematical randomness into a very coherent langauge. He even manages to prove how PHI is NOT an irrational number, but rather repeats!?
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Thanks, Kola. I went to the web site you mentioned and looked around. There is a lot of information there; too much to digest in one sitting. There are a lot of books for sale, also. I might buy a couple and poke around.
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Quote: Originally posted by GASMETERGUY on Sep 21, 2006
Thanks, Kola. I went to the web site you mentioned and looked around. There is a lot of information there; too much to digest in one sitting. There are a lot of books for sale, also. I might buy a couple and poke around.
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Thanks for the info guys.
Do you all know Ancient India had Atomic weapons about 4,000 years ago?
1. They traveled to other planets.
2. Had interaction with Aliens, even married them.
3. Had terrible wars, that destroyed all the advanced civilization on earth.
4. Had Radio.
5. Had Space ships.
6. Had Microwave weapons.
etc.
No wonder the C.I.A. is heavily involved in studying ancient India. Some of the top-secret planes and weapons we have was back enginered, from information obtained from ancient manuscripts found in India.
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Thanks for the info guys.
Do you all know Ancient India had Atomic weapons about 4,000 years ago?
1. They traveled to other planets.
2. Had interaction with Aliens, even married them.
3. Had terrible wars, that destroyed all the advanced civilization on earth.
4. Had Radio.
5. Had Space ships.
6. Had Microwave weapons.
etc.
No wonder the C.I.A. is heavily involved in studying ancient India. Some of the top-secret planes and weapons we have was back enginered, from information obtained from ancient manuscripts found in India.
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Quote: Originally posted by Winner1313 on Sep 24, 2006
Thanks for the info guys.
Do you all know Ancient India had Atomic weapons about 4,000 years ago?
1. They traveled to other planets.
2. Had interaction with Aliens, even married them.
3. Had terrible wars, that destroyed all the advanced civilization on earth.
4. Had Radio.
5. Had Space ships.
6. Had Microwave weapons.
etc.
No wonder the C.I.A. is heavily involved in studying ancient India. Some of the top-secret planes and weapons we have was back enginered, from information obtained from ancient manuscripts found in India.
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As stated before...there is no math that can predict the jackpot drawing.....however having experimented with megamillions since April/May of this year I have concluded that there are several mathimatical patterns that a person can use over a period of drawings that will produce the 2nd prize. This involves spending 40 to 65 numbers a drawing.
I have been able to hit 5 of 5 on several different experimental schemes during my experiments with these patterns......unfortunately I have only gotten as close as 4 of 5 on several occasions on the real MM drawing, and my system has produced 5 of 5 on an actual drawing when I did not play the numbers for that drawing. MY "Chaos55" pattern is based on the "dragnet principle".....it is the most successful of the patterns I have used.
If a person is a big wager using patterns on a consistent basis, then you are able to disern certain anomalies that are not evident ot the casual wager or the quick bet wager.....it is these observations that can drive one nuts....because they do not show up in the experimental drawings. To that I can only apply the law of physics......an object in motion will continue in motion unless an external force acts upon it. That is the only explanation I can find for why the same success in the experiments cannot be transferred over into the actual drawing.
Anyway my time is running short.......i have up to the end of October...then I will shut this baby down and get back to thinktanking on other more critical matters. I just wanted to see if a hunch I had was correct....and I think I am 99.9% sure that I am absolutely correct. Trust me when I say to you.......this lotto business is absolutely a game of chance....there is nothing you can do to win it......except to play it!
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Quote: Originally posted by guesser on Sep 26, 2006
If I had $290 to play with twice a week, I'd ALMOST guarantee a PB Pick 5 within one month (9 drawings).
If I had $160, 3 months.
$80 - 6 months.
And this is using 16 numbers, not 40-65.
Shane: your very last sentence is absolutely correct.
If you're willing to post those 16 numbers before each drawings, maybe someone else would like to try them. Even if you can't afford to play them, you would have the statifaction of helping someone who can. Who knows, maybe if they win a jackpot they might be grateful enough to send you enough so you could win too.
* you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *
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Shane3, I totally agree with you about the mathematical patterns. And, yes, there is something there worth pursuing.
I use patterns. But rather than backtest, I look forward. I will institute the pattern I think will come up and then find the number set associated with that pattern. After the drawing, or rather after I discover I am still not a winner, (Tennessee Cash 5 only) I run the successful pattern just to see how many number sets were contained in the winning pattern. Last Monday night, 9/25/06, there were 33 winning number sets.
Had I picked the correct pattern, $33 would have produce a $150,000 winner. I know; hada, shada, woulda, shoulda, ect.
I am still searching and, who knows?, I might find it.
Anybody got any good patterns for sale? Cheap? Like, free?