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floridian's avatar - DiscoBallGlowing

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Posted: November 30, 2006, 11:50 am - IP Logged

I like many other new members am trying to learn something about all the lingo, iterations, systems, techniques for playing, etc., etc., etc.

It is like trying to navigate through a mine field.  I am not trying to be obtuse here.  The sheer number of posts is getting to be overwhelming.  If a new member wanted to weed their way through all of it, frankly, it would be a nightmare.

Don't get me wrong I do not mind doing the work, it is just finding the work and establishing a process is what is so frustrating.

Is there anyway the LP could set up a learning process for the Lottery?  Starting with lottery basics that have contributed by the members but in a form that you would not have to read all the posts accompanying the information.  Better said where's the meat.  There have been and continue to be wonderful systems, processes, strategies and just plain lottery information contributed by an impressive group of LP members.  I just wish it was a little easier to work through. 

It would also be nice to concentrate on processes rather than systems so you might be able to develop your own system or play or strategy.

I was hesitant to even bring all of this up because it would create more work for Todd.  I do not believe he needs anything more to do.  However, I find myself jumping from one strategy to another never totally understanding what I am doing or where the proper starting point is located and then how to proceed from there.  Maybe this is the way it has to be but it sure is getting hard to land on the right squares.

Floridian

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    Posted: November 30, 2006, 4:12 pm - IP Logged

    With this site, I can't really say what's the "best" way to start learning the lottery, because there is no general agreement on what people should learn first, second, third, etc. 

    If you are looking for guidance on a particular method, all I can say is that you can find it.  Whether or not you stick with a particular system and master it is completely up to you.

    For example, there is a great deal of information regarding vtracs here.  Tntea posted an excellent series of posts containing a great deal of information for the beginner, and then added more advanced topics as well.  There are also several vtracs tools here.

    The other point is that most of the tools here can support most methods/systems, because most of them require past drawing stats, raw data, the ability to characterize a set of data, etc.  So to say the tools here are for any one system is not correct -- they are used for any system.

    I do understand your point though, and I do have some things in the works that will help both new and advanced users alike.  I just don't like to talk about things that are being worked on, because (a) there are a few second-tier lottery sites out there constantly trying to copy everything I do, and I would rather not give away my plans to such people, and (b) I don't like to get people's hopes up, in case I have to delay the project.

     

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      Posted: November 30, 2006, 4:21 pm - IP Logged

      Todd,

      I think what would work great in this situation is a glossary of terms.

      for da nu-be's, ho!

      anyway, what do you think?

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        Posted: November 30, 2006, 4:48 pm - IP Logged

        I tired that a while back and it was a less-than-successful endeavor, mainly due to two things:

        1. Nobody could agree on the definitions, and,
        2. People came up with words and definitions that I just plain disagreed with, and if I ever try to correct somebody, or if I have the nerve to tell someone that I'm not going to use their definition, they get all PO'ed at me, and start telling everyone about how I hate them, etc., etc.  It quickly became not worth the hassle.

         

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          Posted: November 30, 2006, 4:48 pm - IP Logged

          also, I referring to well established terms by well established members, not the johnny and janie come lately who have new verbage to throw around.

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            Posted: November 30, 2006, 4:49 pm - IP Logged

            Hi all the one thing i learn in life you have.

            to pay your dues

            and thats read read read.

            lottogod

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              Posted: November 30, 2006, 4:56 pm - IP Logged

              things like:

              wheel

              system

              group or groups

              key number

              terms created by members should be submitted by the member and clearly illustrated in context and used over a long time period before even being considered a term of reference.

              Presented 'AS IS' and for Entertainment Purposes Only.
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                Posted: November 30, 2006, 5:12 pm - IP Logged

                Floridian,

                Like many members, you want to get to what works and ignore the rest.  The problem is most everyone post what they think will work rather than what has worked.  It would be nice if a methods had worked in the past, it be documented in the post but that's not likely to happen.  Beside checking the predictions statistics of the posters, you'll just have to read and check out what you like.  Good luck to you.

                 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                   
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                  Posted: November 30, 2006, 5:19 pm - IP Logged

                  Or, maybe someone could make a reference web page and those who get P.O.'ed about the definition can go -blank- themselves.

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                  Knowledge is Beyond Belief
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                    Posted: November 30, 2006, 8:16 pm - IP Logged

                    things like:

                    wheel

                    system

                    group or groups

                    key number

                    terms created by members should be submitted by the member and clearly illustrated in context and used over a long time period before even being considered a term of reference.

                    It always seems simple when you dwell in a few common terms, but it doesn't do much good to have a glossary with a half-dozen terms.  So you need to create a more substantial glossary.

                    I did collect submissions from members as you say.  I'm not saying it is a bad idea, I'm just saying that I went through this exercise, being extremely deliberate and careful to avoid all the typical problems, and the things I wrote about above happened.

                    I may do this at some point, but it's going to require that I do most of the work, at least initially.

                     

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                      Posted: November 30, 2006, 8:18 pm - IP Logged

                      Or, maybe someone could make a reference web page and those who get P.O.'ed about the definition can go -blank- themselves.

                      There are several people who already dislike me with a passion, and that's without intentionally pissing off people.  Can you imagine what it would be like for me every day if I created an environment in which I just plain ignored people?

                       

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                        Posted: November 30, 2006, 8:47 pm - IP Logged

                        If you want to find some of the basics here at lottery post the first place I would look is in lottery systems.

                        To learn the pick 3 or 4 game is to know the different breakdowns of the numbers themselves. Each breakdown by category will have their own set of odds of probability.

                        To know how your game is running with the odds of probability use the deflate and inspector 3 and 4 for past results history.

                        MAGA

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                          There are several people who already dislike me with a passion, and that's without intentionally pissing off people.  Can you imagine what it would be like for me every day if I created an environment in which I just plain ignored people?

                          suggestion dead even before the post reply button was pressed.

                          oh well.

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                            Posted: December 1, 2006, 7:02 am - IP Logged

                            suggestion dead even before the post reply button was pressed.

                            oh well.

                            I put together thoughtful replies to your posts.  I hope you actually read them, rather than just seeing "NO".

                             

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                              Posted: December 1, 2006, 7:49 am - IP Logged

                              I would suggest to the person wanting to know what a term means;

                              When you read a term you don't understand ask the person that posted the term.

                                You would probably get several different replies. Take the one that suits you best and go with it.

                                Like the term " neighbor pairs" (45--78--43--10  etc )

                               also called 'in-law pairs-married pairs-- joining pairs--consecutive ,etc.

                              ez

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