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Posted: February 23, 2007, 12:15 am - IP Logged

Attention all lottery players im asking every one to not play lotto until they show the balls on TV.they make millions there CEo makes millions.they can buy a 3 minute slot to show the balls coming up the shoot.I know its hard to stop, but to increase our odds we have to stop! try for one week. im sure if they show the balls on tv we can win a whole lot$$$$$ more .US Flag

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    Posted: February 23, 2007, 12:36 am - IP Logged

    It's a nice thought but it ain't happening. There's been threads about this before.....as long as the lotto gets people to play, they're doing their job as faras they're concerned. 

    And as long as there are people who will play, no matter what, their  job isn't that hard to do.  

    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

    Lep

    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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      Posted: February 23, 2007, 9:22 am - IP Logged

      Attention all lottery players im asking every one to not play lotto until they show the balls on TV.they make millions there CEo makes millions.they can buy a 3 minute slot to show the balls coming up the shoot.I know its hard to stop, but to increase our odds we have to stop! try for one week. im sure if they show the balls on tv we can win a whole lot$$$$$ more .US Flag

      That's the spirit!

      If you're going to organize something like that, the trick is to make sure that people know about it ahead of time, including the state lottery.  So when there is a dip in sales it can be directly attributed to the boycott.

      It's too bad that some states went to computerized drawings, and it's too bad that it seems to require a player revolt in order to coerce them to switch back to traditional drawings.

      I would personally support a targeted boycott that would demonstrate to the computerized states that the time has come to drop-kick the fake drawings.

      I disagree with the person who said it would flatly not work.  I think if it was very targeted it would have a chance.

      For example, you could target one game for one week.  Like,  "Don't play California Daily 3 from March 1st to March 7th".  Can you imagine if a sizeable number of people simply avoided playing one game for one week like that?

      But it would only generate the appropriate response if the California Lottery knew about the boycott ahead of time, and it would really help if the major media knew about it ahead of time too.

       

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        Posted: February 23, 2007, 9:39 am - IP Logged

        Sadly I don't think a state run game is going to get that message. A lottery that was just switched to private hands would be very sensitive to such a boycott. Especially a pick 3/4 boycott. A private firm would quickly realize that it's in their best intrest to make sure the games appear to be as random as possible and have recorded ball drawings for all their games.

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          Posted: February 23, 2007, 6:52 pm - IP Logged

          Todd

          Of all the lotteies mentoned by people who post here, what percentage of people who play those lotteries do we have represented? Granted everybody knows 20 people, but still. 

          Every single person on this board could boycott every lottery for a specified number of draws and they probably wouldn't even feel it.

          Like I said, as long as there are people who will play no matter what, a boycott is just a nice thought at best.

          There was a thread awhile back about how big would a matrix get before you stopped playing and some people here said "never happen", remember that?

          I'm not saying I wouldn't like to see such a boycott, I'm just sayuing I don't see it ever happening.

          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

          Lep

          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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            Todd

            Of all the lotteies mentoned by people who post here, what percentage of people who play those lotteries do we have represented? Granted everybody knows 20 people, but still. 

            Every single person on this board could boycott every lottery for a specified number of draws and they probably wouldn't even feel it.

            Like I said, as long as there are people who will play no matter what, a boycott is just a nice thought at best.

            There was a thread awhile back about how big would a matrix get before you stopped playing and some people here said "never happen", remember that?

            I'm not saying I wouldn't like to see such a boycott, I'm just sayuing I don't see it ever happening.

            Generally speaking, I am not given to such negativity.  My positive mental outlook has helped me a great deal in life.  I completely disagree with you, except for the part where you say that you would like to see it happen.  I think it could succeed beyond either of your expectations, all it needs is someone with some positive energy, some time, and a good deal of effort.

             

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              Posted: February 23, 2007, 7:20 pm - IP Logged

              Attention all lottery players im asking every one to not play lotto until they show the balls on TV.they make millions there CEo makes millions.they can buy a 3 minute slot to show the balls coming up the shoot.I know its hard to stop, but to increase our odds we have to stop! try for one week. im sure if they show the balls on tv we can win a whole lot$$$$$ more .US Flag

              Gamblers don't go on strike, they gamble................

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                Posted: February 23, 2007, 7:37 pm - IP Logged

                yes they do just remeber the casinoes stay open 24hrs a day and you can see the machines spin.US Flag

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                  Posted: February 23, 2007, 8:01 pm - IP Logged

                  Generally speaking, I am not given to such negativity.  My positive mental outlook has helped me a great deal in life.  I completely disagree with you, except for the part where you say that you would like to see it happen.  I think it could succeed beyond either of your expectations, all it needs is someone with some positive energy, some time, and a good deal of effort.

                  Todd

                  You see it as negativity, I see it as just an observation.

                  You've had your petition going for quite a while and have many signatures. Has any compuiterized lottery reverted to a ball drawing since it's been going?

                  The lotteries work on the attitude of if you offer it they will play and indeed people do. 

                  Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                  Lep

                  There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                    Posted: February 23, 2007, 8:41 pm - IP Logged

                    Todd

                    You see it as negativity, I see it as just an observation.

                    You've had your petition going for quite a while and have many signatures. Has any compuiterized lottery reverted to a ball drawing since it's been going?

                    The lotteries work on the attitude of if you offer it they will play and indeed people do. 

                    Thank you for pointing out a terrific example of how we differ.

                    The fact is that since Lottery Post raised public awareness of the issue of fake computerized drawings not one single state has converted from real drawings to computers.  The only game I am aware of that converted is Hot Lotto, and it was handled quietly "in the dark of night".

                    This is despite the fact that computerized drawings had been gaining momentum for years, and without the awareness generated by Lottery Post, we would have most likely lost a few more states.

                    Where are the folks with positive attitudes this evening??  Have you gone into hiding?  It's tough holding down the fort while you all are snoozing!

                     

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                      I was upset with the PB matrix change. Adding two more digits didn't help the chances..  When I mention people going on strike.. I have the "uned" people say they think they have better chances of hitting with less people playing....

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                        I was upset with the PB matrix change. Adding two more digits didn't help the chances..  When I mention people going on strike.. I have the "uned" people say they think they have better chances of hitting with less people playing....

                        tntea

                        Good point.

                        Todd- see, that's the type of thing I'm talking about. You think a strike or boycott would work against that kind of thinking? As I've said before, we, the players, get in our own way on this type of thing.

                        Sports fans always swear that "that's it for me" when a pro sport goes on strike. Amazing how when the strike ends the stadiums fill right back up, considering all the people who swore to never buy a ticket again.

                        If strikes or boycotts worked, and if we the lottery players had any sense or could 'join together', Powerball and Mega Millions wouldn't be getting any play at all with the expanded matrixes and revised payouts. 

                        Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                        Lep

                        There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                          tntea

                          Good point.

                          Todd- see, that's the type of thing I'm talking about. You think a strike or boycott would work against that kind of thinking? As I've said before, we, the players, get in our own way on this type of thing.

                          Sports fans always swear that "that's it for me" when a pro sport goes on strike. Amazing how when the strike ends the stadiums fill right back up, considering all the people who swore to never buy a ticket again.

                          If strikes or boycotts worked, and if we the lottery players had any sense or could 'join together', Powerball and Mega Millions wouldn't be getting any play at all with the expanded matrixes and revised payouts. 

                          You think activism will not work in changing a lottery; I think it could.  We disagree, and all the analogies in the world won't change either of our minds.

                           

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                            Posted: February 24, 2007, 8:04 am - IP Logged

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                              I don't like computer drawings either but a year ago I won $512 for getting 4 out of 5 on the fantasy 5 CA. lottery. And I only bought one ticket. I talked to someone from the CA. lottery about their computer drawings and he told me they will never go back to ball drawings again. I told him I was concerned about the drawings being fixed but he told me they had cameras everywhere, everything was sealed, and totally random. I would play super lotto plus but the odds are so much better with fantasy 5 and people do actually win 5 out of 5.

                              So my question is: What exactly makes computer drawings bad?