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Chaos-Order Duality

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Posted: May 5, 2007, 2:59 am - IP Logged

Thanks.

The relationship between infinitesimal unit, continuum and instum is quite clear. Is continuum always in a status of Chaos and the instum in a status of Order? When universe is in a state of Order, does that only refer to the status of instum or it means continuum is also included and continuum is also in a status of Order? When the Universe is in a state of Chaos, does that only refer to the status of continuum?

To redirect your questions, Chaos and Order exist simultaneously. However, like the Pauli Exclusion Principle, Chaos and Order cannot exist in either the Continuum or the Instum at the same moment or the same time.

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    Here's is a table of some related or analogous Stable Chaos-Order Quantum State descriptions.

    InstumContinuum
    Order
    Infinitesimal
    Dimension
    Digital
    Particle
    Chaos
    Infinite
    Dimensionless
    Analog
    Wave

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      Updated table.

      InstumContinuum
      Order
      Instantaneous
      Infinitesimal
      Dimension
      Digital
      Particle
      Chaos
      Continuous
      Infinite
      Dimensionless
      Analog
      Wave

      The reason the Continuum is Infinite and Dimensionless is because it contains all the Infinite Possible Outcomes.

      The Instum is Infinitesimal and has Dimension because it contains only one of the Infinite Possible Outcomes.

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        Thanks. The stable and unstable Continuum and Instum pair are quite clear now. However, the definition of Chaos and Order are not clear. When Continuum is in Order, is there infinite possibilities? When Instum is in Chaos, does that mean infinite possibilities for Instum?

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          Man this is good stuff. Keep it coming! and ofcourse I looking forward to the end of this journey (thread), however the journey is awakening.

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            Man this is good stuff. Keep it coming! and ofcourse I looking forward to the end of this journey (thread), however the journey is awakening.

            it's in the works... however, the flowers need waterin' and the grass needs mowin'. i think about it doin' home work and real work all the time. my mind constantly running, even when i sleep. it's the puttin' in to words that is the hard part, because most of this stuff has never been though of before. to quote, "I answer as simply as your level of understanding makes possible."; unfortunately that includes myself.

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              I've come across something interesting. It's more like a stumble and take notice while theorizing. It relates to a theory/discovery I made quite a number of years ago, about 15-18 years. I have a non-published copyrighted text that shows the relationship between electric charge and gravitational charge. The name of the text is, "It's About Time..." It all makes sense now with my study in combinatorics and chaos-order duality. It might explain why particles decay, why gravity was and still is the hardest part of nature to fit in the Grand Unified Theory and how this might include Einstein's General Relativity and the dysfunction between that and Quantum Mechanics. I'm actually shaking as I type, because of how clear and insightful a view this make the Universe. It all make sense, like waking up out of a dream.

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                For those of you interested, I'll help save an immediate step in going to the Library of Congress to verify. Here's the Electric Charge and Gravitational Charge Relationship.

                Newton's Law of Gravitational Attraction Equation

                    F = G (m1 * m2) / dg2

                    m1 and m2 are two different mass charges and dg is the distance between them.

                    G is the Universal Gravitational Constant.

                    F is the force of attraction.

                 

                Coulomb's Law of Electrostatics Equation

                    F = k (Q1 * Q2) / de2

                    Q1 and Q2 are two different electric charges and de is the distance between them.

                    k is the Electrostatic Constant

                    F is the force of attraction/repulsion.

                 

                The Electrostatic Gravitational Equivalence Equation

                    For two like mass charges (m1 = m2 = m) and two like electric charges (Q1 = Q2 = Q) placed the same distance apart (dg = de = d) the Electric Force of Repulsion is equal to the negative Gravitational Force of Attraction.

                    k (Q1 * Q2) / de2 = -G (m1 * m2) / dg2

                    k (Q * Q) / d2 = -G (m * m) / d2

                    k * Q2 / d2 = -G * m2 / d2

                    k * Q2 = -G * m2

                    Ök * Q2 = Ö-G * m2

                    Ök * Q = i * ÖG * m

                    G - Universal Gravitational Constant

                    k - Electrostatic Constant

                    i - Imaginary Unit

                    Q - Electric Charge

                    m - Mass Charge

                    In relative terms, the Electric Charge is Real and the Mass Charge is Imaginary relative to each other.

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                  The reason the Gravitational force is negative and the Electrostatic force is positive for like charges is because Gravity acts to decrease the distance between the two like charges, negative, and Electricity acts to increase the distance between two like charges, positive.

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                    Correction, the Title is "It's Time..." and the registration number is TXU 492260, registered 1991-07-03. Found the paper work and shows how forgot about it all this time.

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                      There is also a revision filed 1991-12-19, TXU 501883, revised a chapter.

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                        To give a brief insight into what I'm thinking, I think that the Strong and Weak Nuclear forces are Instum forces and the Gravitational and Electrical forces are Continuum forces and that all four forces are interchangeable and exchangeable at the Chaos-Order Quantum level.

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                          Insight number 2, I think the reason why some particles decay is because of the passing those particles through the Continuum of Chaos. Chaos reshuffles the order of something like quark, neutron, pion, or omega particle. Sometimes it returns as the same particle and sometimes it does not, hence, a decay. In simple terms, there is a small lottery going on right now in every particle in the Universe as it passes through the continuum to arrive as a particle in the Instum. Einstein said, "God does not play dice.", but I say "He must play the lottery instead, because it's going on right now inside of us all."

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                            Insight 3, I think the virtual particles we observe in this Universe could be evidence of the order in a dimensionally adjacent Universe and/or is evidence of a higher level of dimension to our own Universe. Virtual particles have to come from somewhere and that somewhere could be from an existing space our Universe is expanding into and/or the residual or incidental contact with another Universe like our own.

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                              Insight 4, String Theory may have it right about the inner workings of the elementary particles. The direct relation of the Beta function and the Combination function could be what brings it together. C(n, k) = 1 / ((n + 1) * B(n - k + 1, k + 1)), where C(n, k) combination or binomial function and B(a, b) is the Beta function; also, a = n - k + 1 and b = k + 1. In addition, we may find out that strings are comprised of even smaller parts yet, the Fractal; witch is demonstrated in another post I made on the Combinatorial Fractalization.

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