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You just won 15 mill in the lottery, 7 mill in cash...

Stay here, pay the fine, life goes on.

[ 30 ]

[ 62.5% ]

Flee with all my money to a foreign country.

[ 18 ]

[ 37.5% ]

Total valid votes

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guesser

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Jul 2, 2007, 1:28 am

Since we seem to be on a 'morality kick' as of late, let me ask this:
(there is no room for discussion on the dollar amounts)
Two months ago, you were found liable for a car wreck/someone drowned in your pool/your pit bull killed someone.
The Court levied a 7 million dollar judgement against you (forget the Insurance argument - you had none).
Last week you won 15 million in the Lottery, 7 million cash.
You CAN flee the USA with all your money and go somewhere like Cuba, Argentina or Venezuela (no arguing 'the gov't will lock up my accounts'), or some other country we don't have an extradition treaty with, and never come back, OR you can pay the 7 mill you just won, and stay here.
What do you do ?
Remember - in this scenario, you CAN take it with you, and you cannot barter down the 7 million dollar judgement, all or nothing.
What do you do ?
sirbrad

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Jul 2, 2007, 1:50 am

Wait till next draw, get 10,000 more tickets.
manzplan

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Jul 2, 2007, 1:53 am

As long as my wife and kids can come too...... I'm outta there is a New York Minute lol

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Jul 2, 2007, 1:58 am

Quote: Originally posted by sirbrad on Jul 2, 2007
Wait till next draw, get 10,000 more tickets.

Not an option.
sirbrad

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Jul 2, 2007, 1:59 am

Actually I would take the annuity, as you would only lose half the money as opposed to all. Not to mention that you will not be getting $7 million after taxes. You would still be very rich, and very free. Something you will not be if you flee and one day get captured by bounty hunters.
guesser

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Jul 2, 2007, 2:28 am

Quote: Originally posted by sirbrad on Jul 2, 2007
Actually I would take the annuity, as you would only lose half the money as opposed to all. Not to mention that you will not be getting $7 million after taxes. You would still be very rich, and very free. Something you will not be if you flee and one day get captured by bounty hunters.

You did not read my entire post.
I said there is no discussion on the dollar amount: it is what it is, and I also said (basic inference) you will be in a country where they cannot come and get you. US Marshalls, Dog the Bounty Hunter, whatever, nobody can get you.
You are taking it off-topic.
manzplan

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Jul 2, 2007, 2:40 am

Quote: Originally posted by guesser on Jul 2, 2007
You did not read my entire post.
I said there is no discussion on the dollar amount: it is what it is, and I also said (basic inference) you will be in a country where they cannot come and get you. US Marshalls, Dog the Bounty Hunter, whatever, nobody can get you.
You are taking it off-topic.

I wish A&E would stop playing dog the bounty hunter..... I know I don't have to watch it and I don't still I wish they would stop airing it.....

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sirbrad

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Jul 2, 2007, 4:07 am

This topic is simply moronic, and makes little sense. You are creating your own rules now, not abiding by "reality." The odds of this situation happening as you describe it is even less likely than hitting the powerball. Selecting an annuity would be the only logical answer. Fleeing with the cash option which is not enough after taxes anyway, is simply stupid.
You are trying to manipulate answers based on your own rules, not reality, and other options that would be present. Freedom is more important than money, or should be.
Raven62

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Jul 2, 2007, 6:23 am

Quote: Originally posted by guesser on Jul 2, 2007
Since we seem to be on a 'morality kick' as of late, let me ask this:
(there is no room for discussion on the dollar amounts)
Two months ago, you were found liable for a car wreck/someone drowned in your pool/your pit bull killed someone.
The Court levied a 7 million dollar judgement against you (forget the Insurance argument - you had none).
Last week you won 15 million in the Lottery, 7 million cash.
You CAN flee the USA with all your money and go somewhere like Cuba, Argentina or Venezuela (no arguing 'the gov't will lock up my accounts'), or some other country we don't have an extradition treaty with, and never come back, OR you can pay the 7 mill you just won, and stay here.
What do you do ?
Remember - in this scenario, you CAN take it with you, and you cannot barter down the 7 million dollar judgement, all or nothing.
What do you do ?

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Jul 2, 2007, 8:05 am

Quote: Originally posted by Raven62 on Jul 2, 2007
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Jul 2, 2007, 9:33 am

First, I'm not so sure the courts would blame me for the drowning. It depends what the circumstances were. If I was that wreckless to begin with, and allowed a situation for the drowning to have happened, then I'm just a total idiot, and deserve it. But if all the safety precautions were there and the person drowned because they couldn't swim, well that's not my fault.
Second, depending on what state I lived in at the time, I might be able to dodge the system as far as the pitbull case.
For example, in NY there is a law called, (paraphrasing) " The dog propensity ) propensity...spelling? law". It basically states that if a dog does not have a propensity (a history of attacks) to attack someone, and that it was it's first attack, the judge will throw out the case 95 percent of the time. So it also depends what the situation is. The dog scenario ties in with the pool problem. Again, if I was such an idiot as to have allowed or even owned a pitbull that I knew was on the edge all the time, then I don't deserve any sympathy, and deserve my punishment. But if not, then I would have a case. But the way you structured the question makes me think that I simply don't have a conscience, even if I was found innocent. Whoohoo, let's flee to Mexico and have a party...HUH? I'd be devastated if I was responsible, even if it was indirectly my fault, even if I was cleared of any wrong doing. A person was killed either way, unless I had no conscience.
Same goes with the car accident.
Boy, I think you basically answered your own question. For someone to be that inept in so many areas of life shouldn't be given any money at all which might lead to even more bad decision making in the future. Not to mention that this hypothetical person who is a walking disaster, should seek mental help, not money....lol
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Jul 2, 2007, 10:19 am

Hypothetically speaking, this is very hypothetical, so I would hypothetically do something hypothetical.
LOL jarasan
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mjwinsmith

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Jul 2, 2007, 10:43 am

Quote: Originally posted by guesser on Jul 2, 2007
Since we seem to be on a 'morality kick' as of late, let me ask this:
(there is no room for discussion on the dollar amounts)
Two months ago, you were found liable for a car wreck/someone drowned in your pool/your pit bull killed someone.
The Court levied a 7 million dollar judgement against you (forget the Insurance argument - you had none).
Last week you won 15 million in the Lottery, 7 million cash.
You CAN flee the USA with all your money and go somewhere like Cuba, Argentina or Venezuela (no arguing 'the gov't will lock up my accounts'), or some other country we don't have an extradition treaty with, and never come back, OR you can pay the 7 mill you just won, and stay here.
What do you do ?
Remember - in this scenario, you CAN take it with you, and you cannot barter down the 7 million dollar judgement, all or nothing.
What do you do ?

I would take the 7 million and hire a good lawyer and sue the estate of the idiot that stole my car, crashed it into my pool and drowned. I'd also go after the estate of his/her accomplice which my pit bull ran down and killed.
I think I would come out ahead of the game and I get to stay here.
Coin Toss

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Jul 2, 2007, 10:48 am

Quote: Originally posted by guesser on Jul 2, 2007
You did not read my entire post.
I said there is no discussion on the dollar amount: it is what it is, and I also said (basic inference) you will be in a country where they cannot come and get you. US Marshalls, Dog the Bounty Hunter, whatever, nobody can get you.
You are taking it off-topic.

Maybe law enforcement coudln't legally come get you, but some very nasty dudes from where ever you go might come after you. Especially once word got out, which it would, that you're a foreigner who hit the lottery back home and are there on the lam.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
SirMetro

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Jul 2, 2007, 1:12 pm

I am here by choice and not by birth to begin with.
There is no other country that I would declare my allegiance to and there is no price I would not be willing to pay to insure I stay.
This is what it means to be an American to me.

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