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can someone here post me an example of a fake RNG lottery drawing?

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Posted: July 25, 2007, 8:11 am - IP Logged

can someone here post me an example of a fake RNG lottery drawing?

i need to see the nonsense that tennessee is fixing to pull.

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    Posted: July 25, 2007, 8:50 am - IP Logged

    Fake: A fraud or sham; not genuine; to pretend or feign!

    Random: Lack of definite aim or intention; without plan or order; haphazardly!
    Number: One of the set of positive integers; a quantity or place in a sequence!
    Generator: To produce; beget; bring into being; originate by some process!

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      Posted: July 25, 2007, 1:37 pm - IP Logged

      can someone here post me an example of a fake RNG lottery drawing?

      i need to see the nonsense that tennessee is fixing to pull.

      Actually, this is quite a good question.  You will be sickened by this, but you need to see it.

      Here is yesterday's Minnesota drawing:

      http://www.mnlottery.com/drawshow/tue256wm.html

      (It takes a minute to get started, just be patient.)

      Welcome to the world of computerized drawings, where a cartoon gives you the winning numbers.

       

      Check the State Lottery Report Card
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        Posted: July 25, 2007, 1:51 pm - IP Logged

        It's kind of of interesting that they show a Simulation of a Mechanical Ball Machine!

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          Posted: July 25, 2007, 2:00 pm - IP Logged

          Actually, this is quite a good question.  You will be sickened by this, but you need to see it.

          Here is yesterday's Minnesota drawing:

          http://www.mnlottery.com/drawshow/tue256wm.html

          (It takes a minute to get started, just be patient.)

          Welcome to the world of computerized drawings, where a cartoon gives you the winning numbers.

          That is sickening.

          They might as well use Woody Woodpecker.

          I suppose the accounting firm listed at the bottom of the cartoon is supposed to make the players feel better about it ?

          Might as well use the accounting firm of Dewey Cheatham and Howe.

           

                                         

                        

           

           

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            Posted: July 25, 2007, 2:09 pm - IP Logged

            Or Grumpy, Sleepy and Bashful. Big Grin

             

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              Posted: July 25, 2007, 2:12 pm - IP Logged

              It's kind of of interesting that they show a Simulation of a Mechanical Ball Machine!

                Indiana did the same thing. In fact, the Hoosier Lottery spent so much money on their animation program, most players didn't know about the RNG for at least two years after they began using it! Their "public announcement" about the new drawing method was buried on their web site, so the public had no opportunity to react to the RNG idea. They no longer air live drawings.

                 Soon after LosingJeff and I met with Hoosier Lottery officials, Kevin Leininger wrote his first article about our investigation. Shortly after that, they stopped airing animated draws and began openly staeling our money. Now, they don't care if we know they're corrupt, because they know there's nothing anyone can do about it.

                Three Indiana law firms told us that the evidence we've collected  against the Hoosier Lottery is "probably sufficient to convict on at least three (federal) RICO predicates." When we went to see the FBI, they threatened us and warned us not to come back.

                Good luck with your new drawing format, Tennessee players ... 

              Come, Pinky; we must prepare for tomorrow night...

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                Posted: July 25, 2007, 2:46 pm - IP Logged

                So far, it would seem the answer is no. Maybe that's because, at least in theory, RNG's are just as good as the ball machines.

                The only mishap I can remember was a few years ago (somewhere near Wisconsin or Minnesota, I think), when faulty hardware resulted in the same number being repeated for 3 days. I'm sure there have been a few other issues, but for the most part people are simply afraid of problems that exist in their own minds rather than reality.

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                  Posted: July 25, 2007, 2:53 pm - IP Logged

                    Indiana did the same thing. In fact, the Hoosier Lottery spent so much money on their animation program, most players didn't know about the RNG for at least two years after they began using it! Their "public announcement" about the new drawing method was buried on their web site, so the public had no opportunity to react to the RNG idea. They no longer air live drawings.

                     Soon after LosingJeff and I met with Hoosier Lottery officials, Kevin Leininger wrote his first article about our investigation. Shortly after that, they stopped airing animated draws and began openly staeling our money. Now, they don't care if we know they're corrupt, because they know there's nothing anyone can do about it.

                    Three Indiana law firms told us that the evidence we've collected  against the Hoosier Lottery is "probably sufficient to convict on at least three (federal) RICO predicates." When we went to see the FBI, they threatened us and warned us not to come back.

                    Good luck with your new drawing format, Tennessee players ... 

                  Could you elaborate on this? How can they threaten you for someone else's activity?

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                    Posted: July 25, 2007, 3:03 pm - IP Logged

                    So far, it would seem the answer is no. Maybe that's because, at least in theory, RNG's are just as good as the ball machines.

                    The only mishap I can remember was a few years ago (somewhere near Wisconsin or Minnesota, I think), when faulty hardware resulted in the same number being repeated for 3 days. I'm sure there have been a few other issues, but for the most part people are simply afraid of problems that exist in their own minds rather than reality.

                    No, no, no.  There have been several computerized mishaps.  You should run some searches on the news forum for stories about computerized drawings.  You will find many examples.

                    The problems are real.  Computerized drawings are not "just as good as the ball machines". 

                     

                    Check the State Lottery Report Card
                    What grade did your lottery earn?

                     

                    Sign the Petition for True Lottery Drawings
                    Help eliminate computerized drawings!

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                      Posted: July 25, 2007, 3:13 pm - IP Logged

                      Ever seen a virtual dealer at any casinos?  Same theory more or less.  DLD

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                        Posted: July 25, 2007, 3:18 pm - IP Logged

                        I no longer involve myself in anything having to do with reforming the Hoosier Lottery.  It's pointless.  So instead I simply refuse to play any Hoosier Lottery games.  I still play Powerball in Indiana because I don't think their shennagins reach into Powerball.  But anything else (IMHO) is simply a donation to the state's Graft and Corruption Fund. 

                        The Hooseir Lottery's official explanation of why they don't broadcast drawings (as given to me by Esther Q. Schneider) is that it costs too much money to buy air time on commercial television.  When I suggested to her that they could broadcast it on their own Website for a minimal expenditure (let's face it..any idiot with a computer and a web cam can put on a show) I was ignored and then rebuked.

                        @Lottomike:

                        I think you must understand that we here in Indiana have had a corrupt lottery from almost the very beginning.  It was born in scandal and continues to operate that way.  Everything I've ever read about Ms Paul suggests that she is an honest person who runs a good lottery.   An RNG per se does not mean a corrupt game.  It just means you have to take the lottery at their word word that the process is honest and fair.  That's something that some of us in Indiana refuse to do.  Not because we are disgruntled losers or conspiracy nuts or even because we have paranoid personailities...it's because the Hoosier Lottery has earned our mistrust with their history of secracy, scandal and corruption.

                        Maybe the Governor is right.  Maybe he should lease the damn thing out.  It couldn't possibly be any worse!  (Could it?)

                        Jim 


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                          Ever seen a virtual dealer at any casinos?  Same theory more or less.  DLD

                          EVER ????? SEEN ?????

                          UFO ^^^^^^^^^^^

                                                ????????????

                                  Thinking of...Thinking of...


                           

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                            Posted: July 25, 2007, 9:03 pm - IP Logged

                            That is sickening.

                            They might as well use Woody Woodpecker.

                            I suppose the accounting firm listed at the bottom of the cartoon is supposed to make the players feel better about it ?

                            Might as well use the accounting firm of Dewey Cheatham and Howe.

                            The Lottery Director & commission board have

                            caught on to the FACT that it does not matter which>>>>>>>>

                            accounting or security firm THEY use to produce the RNG draws

                            to VERIFY how HONEST (or dishonest) their DRAWS may BE ?????

                            NO BODY can prove a darn<< thing???????????????????????

                            <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

                            ain't that a sham

                            scheme and a REAL>>>>>MONEY MAKING MACHINE $$$$$$$

                            RNG<RNG<RNG

                            viva>viva>VIVA

                            no ID no ID viva

                            LOL.......sucker 

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                              Posted: July 25, 2007, 9:17 pm - IP Logged

                              psykomo be careful because those computerized jaws are getting awful close to the georgia state line.if it can happen in tennessee it could very well spread.i look for kentucky or some other southern state to be next....