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Posted: August 7, 2007, 11:03 pm - IP Logged

Is it possible to use multiple methods to "corner" or "squeeze" and identify winning numbers for the next drawing?

What I am thinking of is using several different analysis methods, coming from "different angles" of approach to identify the next drawing winners.  Like using a piece of this system, and a part of that one.  I was thinking of something like starting with multiplying the previous drawing by Pi, etc. and taking those results and comparing it to other systems/methods results in order to increase your winnings/odds.

Has anyone had such luck with this approach?

Thanks in advance to all for responding!

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The answer is always no, until the question is asked...........

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    Posted: August 7, 2007, 11:10 pm - IP Logged

    Is it possible to use multiple methods to "corner" or "squeeze" and identify winning numbers for the next drawing?

    What I am thinking of is using several different analysis methods, coming from "different angles" of approach to identify the next drawing winners.  Like using a piece of this system, and a part of that one.  I was thinking of something like starting with multiplying the previous drawing by Pi, etc. and taking those results and comparing it to other systems/methods results in order to increase your winnings/odds.

    Has anyone had such luck with this approach?

    Thanks in advance to all for responding!

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    CountingMan 

    The answer is always no, until the question is asked...........

    I tried that, it's never worked so I dropped it.

    I've tried collaborating with others that indicate they have as much passion for developing 'systems', and almost NONE of them have offered anything back in the way of 'real' theories.

    So, what I do now is just narrow my 'systems' down to about 3 WB numbers, and for the other 2, I guess/throw darts, mix 'em up, and I seem to do OK.

    And for the PB itself, there are things you can do to narrow it down, but even at that, I'm narrowing it down to about 15 numbers, the PB that hits 'usually' comes from one of those 15, but that's still too many.

    Maybe you will do better than I. 

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      Posted: August 7, 2007, 11:31 pm - IP Logged

      Is it possible to use multiple methods to "corner" or "squeeze" and identify winning numbers for the next drawing?

      What I am thinking of is using several different analysis methods, coming from "different angles" of approach to identify the next drawing winners.  Like using a piece of this system, and a part of that one.  I was thinking of something like starting with multiplying the previous drawing by Pi, etc. and taking those results and comparing it to other systems/methods results in order to increase your winnings/odds.

      Has anyone had such luck with this approach?

      Thanks in advance to all for responding!

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      CountingMan 

      The answer is always no, until the question is asked...........

      The question "Has anyone here every won a jackpot?" has been asked and answered "No", so it follows no one here is going to be able to tell you what works best when it comes to winning  one. 

      At best a member may be able to do is offer their theories which I have done many times but most people aren't willing to take it from there, they want a working system. something they can't even buy.

      My theory is what works most is most likely to work again.

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        Posted: August 8, 2007, 6:31 am - IP Logged

        Is it possible to use multiple methods to "corner" or "squeeze" and identify winning numbers for the next drawing?

        What I am thinking of is using several different analysis methods, coming from "different angles" of approach to identify the next drawing winners.  Like using a piece of this system, and a part of that one.  I was thinking of something like starting with multiplying the previous drawing by Pi, etc. and taking those results and comparing it to other systems/methods results in order to increase your winnings/odds.

        Has anyone had such luck with this approach?

        Thanks in advance to all for responding!

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        CountingMan 

        The answer is always no, until the question is asked...........

        Some players combine their own methods with others', and play the numbers that appear in both or (2 of 3, etc.) sets.  I've posted in threads and blogged about doing this, but it is "determined loner" type work.

        The hurdle is to determine which systems to combine. You can't just throw any 3 or 4 together. Optimizing involves lots of testing. Most people are not willing to do this much work, though, so you will not find much help.

        My theory-in-progress answer to your question is "yes" Cool

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          Posted: August 8, 2007, 9:02 am - IP Logged

          Some players combine their own methods with others', and play the numbers that appear in both or (2 of 3, etc.) sets.  I've posted in threads and blogged about doing this, but it is "determined loner" type work.

          The hurdle is to determine which systems to combine. You can't just throw any 3 or 4 together. Optimizing involves lots of testing. Most people are not willing to do this much work, though, so you will not find much help.

          My theory-in-progress answer to your question is "yes" Cool

           I Agree! In my experience, I have found that combining systems can be fruitful. I agree with time*treat, it is important to find the right combination of systems to put together.

          Some systems to consider combining (for Pick 3) are Mirrors, Mates, Prof Hitts workouts, GAPS, VTRACS, Followers, Lottery Bible and the tools on LP e.g. Number Deflate.

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            Posted: August 8, 2007, 9:17 am - IP Logged

                  Learning the Math behind the game ....... that will get you closer to what you want than anything out there.

               In this game ....Math is Sexy!  Naughty

             

             

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                                          Odds never change .....but probability does. 

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              Posted: August 8, 2007, 10:43 am - IP Logged

              I concur with RJOH.

              I personally think AT BEST any 'system' will help you narrow it down to two numbers - three at the very most.

              You can develop a system that will get you to a list of viable numbers, and in due time they MIGHT hit - but that matrix changes after every drawing.

              I just about always get 2 WB every drawing, I get 3 frequently, and I've gotten 4 'a lot' of times in the last 19 months, but getting them with that 5th number and/or the PB is ever-elusive.

              One thing is, every time I see a STRONG tendency for one thing to happen - to be 'due' - it disappears - right RJoH ? (LOL)

              Next problem is: I have too many theories, too many trends I track, and at any one time just two of them are 'good' out of about eight to choose from. Which two ?   That's the jackpot question, along with which three other numbers, as well as the PB.

              As I say a million times, a loser is a loser (set of numbers), close does not count. 

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                It should be noted too that many members post predictions that are checked by LP which also provide statistics about them.  You can check the top predictors for the type of game you're playing and then do a search to find what they have written in the past about picking numbers.

                 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                   
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                  Posted: August 9, 2007, 2:10 am - IP Logged

                  The question "Has anyone here every won a jackpot?" has been asked and answered "No", so it follows no one here is going to be able to tell you what works best when it comes to winning  one. 

                  At best a member may be able to do is offer their theories which I have done many times but most people aren't willing to take it from there, they want a working system. something they can't even buy.

                  My theory is what works most is most likely to work again.

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                    Posted: August 9, 2007, 8:07 am - IP Logged

                    I have won once in Fantasy 5 but I don't play p5 anymore, I'm into p3 for now.  I will get back to p5 when I have more time in my hands but right now I'm too busy with my job. P3 alone is enough to work with on paper & pencil & pc.

                     

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                      I concur with RJOH.

                      I personally think AT BEST any 'system' will help you narrow it down to two numbers - three at the very most.

                      You can develop a system that will get you to a list of viable numbers, and in due time they MIGHT hit - but that matrix changes after every drawing.

                      I just about always get 2 WB every drawing, I get 3 frequently, and I've gotten 4 'a lot' of times in the last 19 months, but getting them with that 5th number and/or the PB is ever-elusive.

                      One thing is, every time I see a STRONG tendency for one thing to happen - to be 'due' - it disappears - right RJoH ? (LOL)

                      Next problem is: I have too many theories, too many trends I track, and at any one time just two of them are 'good' out of about eight to choose from. Which two ?   That's the jackpot question, along with which three other numbers, as well as the PB.

                      As I say a million times, a loser is a loser (set of numbers), close does not count. 

                      I Agree! I agree with guesser, tracking trends gives you a lot of information but if you can't tie all that information together to get a picture of how each piece works with the others such that you can pick three or more of the winning numbers together every time, it's not going to help you.  Matching two is better than matching nothing but with most games it's the same as matching nothing.

                      Stay tuned and continue to read others thoughts as well as contribute your owns, maybe some day someone will hit on the right formula for picking a winner more than once  and share it.

                      Good luck to you.

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                        Is it possible to use multiple methods to "corner" or "squeeze" and identify winning numbers for the next drawing?

                        What I am thinking of is using several different analysis methods, coming from "different angles" of approach to identify the next drawing winners.  Like using a piece of this system, and a part of that one.  I was thinking of something like starting with multiplying the previous drawing by Pi, etc. and taking those results and comparing it to other systems/methods results in order to increase your winnings/odds.

                        Has anyone had such luck with this approach?

                        Thanks in advance to all for responding!

                        ________________________________________________________________________________

                        CountingMan 

                        The answer is always no, until the question is asked...........

                        "I was thinking of something like starting with multiplying the previous drawing by Pi, etc."

                        Aw, the old "had I" system. Had I mathematically done this, that, or something else to the previous draw or drawings, I would have the winning numbers in the next draw. These systems are based on knowing the results and could also be called "it worked once so it should always work" strategy.

                        You could start out by creating an equation; previous draw (pd) plus/minus/multiplied/divided/ by X equal the next draw (nd). After finding "X" the next step is to see if it consistently produces the next winning numbers. Adding and/or subtracting will give you one number each but with multiplying and/or dividing, you'll probably have to round it off.

                        Pi is an irrational number that is the ratio of the circumference to the diameter of a circle with millions of digits following the decimal point without repetition. I found a site that has the first 10 million digits of the square root of 2 so somebody probably did that to Pi too. If you have the time, you'll probably find the next draw in exact order somewhere in those millions of digits.

                        "Has anyone had such luck with this approach?"

                        Luck is when somebody has two cars and the 3 digit plate numbers hit straight two days in a row and they bet all the first hit winnings on the second draw. Isn't the idea of a system to accurately and consistently pick the winning numbers?

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                          "Isn't the idea of a system to accurately and consistently pick the winning numbers?"

                          That might be true if you're playing a pick3 game that pays $50 for a box hit or $500 for a straight hit, but when you're playing a pick5 or jackpot game you only have to be accurate a few times and close the rest to know you're doing something right.

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                            "Isn't the idea of a system to accurately and consistently pick the winning numbers?"

                            That might be true if you're playing a pick3 game that pays $50 for a box hit or $500 for a straight hit, but when you're playing a pick5 or jackpot game you only have to be accurate a few times and close the rest to know you're doing something right.

                            Times have changed but Pick-3 was called "the Number" and systems were designed to pick one number not 6 or 50 and brag when one of those numbers hits in the box. There might be some logic to play 50 numbers straight to get 9 to 1 odds but if they need to box those 50 numbers to get a hit, it's a losing proposition. I guess they forgot to add the fine print that says they are actually playing 300 numbers.

                            Most Pick-3 games offer a 2 out 3 pay off, but not many people play Front Pair, Back Pair, or Outside Pair. Getting a buck back for hitting 2 out of 5 in a Pick-5 game doesn't sound like much unless you compare it to games that give you nothing. Other than just having another chance to win, states that offer a free play that they pick is no help to people that pick their own numbers.

                            I'm not knocking the people that bet $25 playing 50 numbers but the most they can win is $250; I just believe that if I'm going to bet $25, I want the chance to win at least $100,000 so I prefer to play the Pick-5. 

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                              Times have changed but Pick-3 was called "the Number" and systems were designed to pick one number not 6 or 50 and brag when one of those numbers hits in the box. There might be some logic to play 50 numbers straight to get 9 to 1 odds but if they need to box those 50 numbers to get a hit, it's a losing proposition. I guess they forgot to add the fine print that says they are actually playing 300 numbers.

                              Most Pick-3 games offer a 2 out 3 pay off, but not many people play Front Pair, Back Pair, or Outside Pair. Getting a buck back for hitting 2 out of 5 in a Pick-5 game doesn't sound like much unless you compare it to games that give you nothing. Other than just having another chance to win, states that offer a free play that they pick is no help to people that pick their own numbers.

                              I'm not knocking the people that bet $25 playing 50 numbers but the most they can win is $250; I just believe that if I'm going to bet $25, I want the chance to win at least $100,000 so I prefer to play the Pick-5. 

                              I Agree! I've often said the pick3 or numbers game is not for players who want to get lucky and win some real money but for those players who love to gamble every day and win a few dollars once in a while.  I've seen some members post 50 numbers to play and when they get a box hit anywhere in the country they are happy. 

                              The facts are the odds of getting a box hit in any game are 1:210 and with more than 50 games (mid-day and evenings) their odds of getting a box hit some where in the country are 50 X 50 divided by 210 or better than 10:1

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