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What if you find out ...no System "works" ?

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RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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Posted: August 16, 2007, 12:58 pm - IP Logged

How do you decide no system works or
You just haven't find one that does?
I've decided that regardless of which one is true,
you have to keep playing to have any chance of winning or losing.
.....Play responsibly......

 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
   
             Evil Looking       

    Luminus's avatar - ouskuu

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    Luminus, are you telling me that you consistently win using that 244 dollar system? And I'm not talking a few free qps.

    I highly doubt it.

    A few qps?  Hundreds of FEE PLAYS are not a few qps.  And I DO win consistently, not every time, but MOST of the time.  Look at my posts in that forum.  The proof is there.  It cannot be denied.

    In fact, I challenge anyone here to get 40 3-number combos using ANY other system besides mine. Argue  And I'm giving you a healthy limit of $1,000 virtual to play with.

      MillionsWanted's avatar - 24Qa6LT

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      Posted: August 16, 2007, 1:18 pm - IP Logged

      now we're get'in somewhere>>>>>>>

      Ole man in NJ tried>>>>>>>>   over 5000 time's $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

      Mel Fisher in FL tried >>>>>>     over 1,000,000's $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

      congrat's to....MillionsWanted!

      LOL

      PSYKOMO 

      Oh Yeah? I won a second division (just about $ 11,000) with a quickpick earlier this year.

      What I meant which I thought was obvious, was that if no system works, you can just as well play with quickpicks.

        Luminus's avatar - ouskuu

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        Posted: August 16, 2007, 1:34 pm - IP Logged

        Oh Yeah? I won a second division (just about $ 11,000) with a quickpick earlier this year.

        What I meant which I thought was obvious, was that if no system works, you can just as well play with quickpicks.

        I'll tell you a little secret about quick picks:  Some stores have machines that give better odds.  I happened to find one of these stores and 4 out of 5 weeks (I used to play every week with my co-workers)  I get at least 1 win from that machine.  Sometimes it's a free play and sometime's it's money.  Look for those machines.


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          A few qps?  Hundreds of FEE PLAYS are not a few qps.  And I DO win consistently, not every time, but MOST of the time.  Look at my posts in that forum.  The proof is there.  It cannot be denied.

          In fact, I challenge anyone here to get 40 3-number combos using ANY other system besides mine. Argue  And I'm giving you a healthy limit of $1,000 virtual to play with.

          Unless I played with my own little syndicate, I couldn't afford that kind of play. And I definitely don't know that many people who would participate, nor do I have the time for that kind of logistics.

           

          http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/160960 - 175 combos- no return.

          http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/160915 - 139 combos- 22 free plays, and 25 bucks.

          http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/160869- 700 combos- 92 free plays, and 200 bucks.

          http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/160425- 244 combos- 36 free plays in total, and 50 bucks.

          http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/160193- 290 combos, 10 free plays.

          http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/160395-196 combos, 24 free plays and 50 bucks.

          http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/160312- 466 combos and nothing at all.

          http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/160084-  340 combos and nothing at all except one number match.

          I only did the first page in the p-5 forum.

          Let's do the math.

          A total of 2,550 combos.

          A total of 184 free plays.

          A total of $325 bucks in wins.

          2,550 minus 325 =2,225

          You're in the hole by over 2,000 bucks.

          What am I missing here?

            hennybogan's avatar - DiscoBallGlowing
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            Posted: August 16, 2007, 1:44 pm - IP Logged

            Been there done that. There is no system that works on a consistant basis. I've had more luck and some fun with the scratch offs.

            We just cannot get it through our thick skulls it is  A RANDOM EVENT!

              Ephesians 3:20


              Luminus's avatar - ouskuu

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              Posted: August 16, 2007, 2:54 pm - IP Logged

              Unless I played with my own little syndicate, I couldn't afford that kind of play. And I definitely don't know that many people who would participate, nor do I have the time for that kind of logistics.

               

              http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/160960 - 175 combos- no return.

              http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/160915 - 139 combos- 22 free plays, and 25 bucks.

              http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/160869- 700 combos- 92 free plays, and 200 bucks.

              http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/160425- 244 combos- 36 free plays in total, and 50 bucks.

              http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/160193- 290 combos, 10 free plays.

              http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/160395-196 combos, 24 free plays and 50 bucks.

              http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/160312- 466 combos and nothing at all.

              http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/160084-  340 combos and nothing at all except one number match.

              I only did the first page in the p-5 forum.

              Let's do the math.

              A total of 2,550 combos.

              A total of 184 free plays.

              A total of $325 bucks in wins.

              2,550 minus 325 =2,225

              You're in the hole by over 2,000 bucks.

              What am I missing here?

              Look, it only takes 10 people to play and you don't have to play the entire set.  You have several of my games there at different prices as if that destroys my argument, but what you fail to understand is this: you are going to play anyway.  Now, is it better to play $20 and loose the entire thing 99.9% of the time, or is it better to use a system and win $18  70%+ of the time?  That is what you're missing.


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                Look, it only takes 10 people to play and you don't have to play the entire set.  You have several of my games there at different prices as if that destroys my argument, but what you fail to understand is this: you are going to play anyway.  Now, is it better to play $20 and loose the entire thing 99.9% of the time, or is it better to use a system and win $18  70%+ of the time?  That is what you're missing.

                No doubt that a system is much better than just picking numbers out of thin air, but your system does not improve anything except that I'd be in the poor house.

                You say that all I would have to do is just find 10 people to play. Well, the problem with that is, those 10 people would have stopped a while back, or trusted me and lost their butt, so I don't get how  you feel this has been profitable, whether it's just me or whether I spread the loss around to 10 people.

                I sure wouldn't want 10 people pissed off at me, that's for damn sure.

                Now, is it better to play $20 and loose the entire thing 99.9% of the time, or is it better to use a system and win $18  70%+ of the time?  That is what you're missing.

                I'd rather lose 20 bucks, than 2,000 bucks.

                  Luminus's avatar - ouskuu

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                  No doubt that a system is much better than just picking numbers out of thin air, but your system does not improve anything except that I'd be in the poor house.

                  You say that all I would have to do is just find 10 people to play. Well, the problem with that is, those 10 people would have stopped a while back, or trusted me and lost their butt, so I don't get how  you feel this has been profitable, whether it's just me or whether I spread the loss around to 10 people.

                  I sure wouldn't want 10 people pissed off at me, that's for damn sure.

                  Now, is it better to play $20 and loose the entire thing 99.9% of the time, or is it better to use a system and win $18  70%+ of the time?  That is what you're missing.

                  I'd rather lose 20 bucks, than 2,000 bucks.

                  You're still missing the point.

                  1. I have been playing with 10 people for almost a year.  I've recently stopped so that I could do these large test games that you've seen.  But they STILL want to play.  You know why?  Because it's better to win something than to win nothing.

                  2.  I haven't lost $2,000.  You're stuck on that number and that's what's going to keep you from achieving your goal.  You can't have anything significant without risk.  Period.  How much money have you lost over the years that you've played?

                  3.  This is a game and you need to understand that.  Like bowling, like the arcade, like Great Adventure, you're going to pay to have this fun.  In this case, you actually have a chance of getting a return on your investment other than excitement.

                  You must have this healthy attitude or you're going to cause yourself unnecessary stress. 


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                    You're still missing the point.

                    1. I have been playing with 10 people for almost a year.  I've recently stopped so that I could do these large test games that you've seen.  But they STILL want to play.  You know why?  Because it's better to win something than to win nothing.

                    2.  I haven't lost $2,000.  You're stuck on that number and that's what's going to keep you from achieving your goal.  You can't have anything significant without risk.  Period.  How much money have you lost over the years that you've played?

                    3.  This is a game and you need to understand that.  Like bowling, like the arcade, like Great Adventure, you're going to pay to have this fun.  In this case, you actually have a chance of getting a return on your investment other than excitement.

                    You must have this healthy attitude or you're going to cause yourself unnecessary stress. 

                    I'm only going by what I see you post. I see that If I had done what you did, I would have lost major money.

                    I think what I posted, listing the cost/ profit was totally resonable. That's how people on this board prove a system works. They go to the prediction board, and prove their case. Unfortunately, you can't post there because there's a limit of 50 predictions, and you have millions of them...lol

                    So, in order to prove that the system works, you can post in the p-5 forum, like you've done, and prove it with cost/profit. And based on what you posted, it's in the red.

                    I can't explain it any simpler.

                    Do a Florida Fantasy 5 as a test for tonight using whatever amount you see fit, and do it for 5 consecutive draws. We'll tally them up at the end of the 5 days, and see if what you say is true.

                    If it comes out with a decent profit, I'll eat my guitar strings...OK?

                      Luminus's avatar - ouskuu

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                      I'm only going by what I see you post. I see that If I had done what you did, I would have lost major money.

                      I think what I posted, listing the cost/ profit was totally resonable. That's how people on this board prove a system works. They go to the prediction board, and prove their case. Unfortunately, you can't post there because there's a limit of 50 predictions, and you have millions of them...lol

                      So, in order to prove that the system works, you can post in the p-5 forum, like you've done, and prove it with cost/profit. And based on what you posted, it's in the red.

                      I can't explain it any simpler.

                      Do a Florida Fantasy 5 as a test for tonight using whatever amount you see fit, and do it for 5 consecutive draws. We'll tally them up at the end of the 5 days, and see if what you say is true.

                      If it comes out with a decent profit, I'll eat my guitar strings...OK?

                      I don't live in Florida.  But I'll post some predictions in NY as I have been doing.  Let's see, $50 max, okay?  I've already posted some numbers, today, but they don't qualify.  Thefore, here's what we will do:

                      For the next 5 days that I post some numbers, after today, I will post only $50 games or less.  You, in turn, will post your "blind" 50 or less combos in the same thread.  On day 6, we will tally up the wins (FREE PLAYS count) and see which method is more desireable – system or no system?

                      Sound fair?Wink


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                        I don't live in Florida.  But I'll post some predictions in NY as I have been doing.  Let's see, $50 max, okay?  I've already posted some numbers, today, but they don't qualify.  Thefore, here's what we will do:

                        For the next 5 days that I post some numbers, after today, I will post only $50 games or less.  You, in turn, will post your "blind" 50 or less combos in the same thread.  On day 6, we will tally up the wins (FREE PLAYS count) and see which method is more desireable – system or no system?

                        Sound fair?Wink

                        I really don't study the JP games, but it should be fun anyway.

                        50 is just fine. But the reason here was to see if your system worked or not. I never said I had a profitable system. Nevertheless, I'll do it just for fun, but I really want to see how your claim holds up.

                        I'll figure some system to use....lol

                          Luminus's avatar - ouskuu

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                          I really don't study the JP games, but it should be fun anyway.

                          50 is just fine. But the reason here was to see if your system worked or not. I never said I had a profitable system. Nevertheless, I'll do it just for fun, but I really want to see how your claim holds up.

                          I'll figure some system to use....lol

                          "I really want to see how your claim holds up"

                          As do I.  I'd hate to think that I've been deluding myself and there truly is no system to beat this thing.  lol

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                            There's no system to beat casino crap tables, which is the only game that offers true odds (you just have to make a flat bet to take or lay odds). There's just a lot of baloney out there that tells you there are systems to beat the dice. 

                            Even if there was, a system maybe could prove itself one night, or one week, but no system could prove itself all the time. 

                            Now if dice with true odds can't be beat, do you really think there's s sytem out there that can go up agains 20 million to one to 176 million to one odds? and if there was (rthere isn't), would the game be offered? 

                            People get slaughtered trying to beat sports betting too. Because of the vig, you need a win percentage of 52.6% to break even, i.e., 2.6% better than "500 ball" just to break even. You don't even want to think about the vig on a jackpot game.  

                            Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                            Lep

                            There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                              Posted: August 16, 2007, 6:21 pm - IP Logged

                               What if you find out ...no System "works" ? 

                              As long as the central air and the sewer system keep running, I'll keep playing.   I've never relied on a lottery system.  However, I do depend on my digestive system, which is often random and unpredictable.