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$1 QP vs $2 Your numbers and a QP

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Posted: August 17, 2007, 5:13 pm - IP Logged

Todd, I am a little confused.  After your discussion of a new rng I did some qp's and the results were impressive.........if I had used the #'s generated and played them yesterday.

Since I really hadn't used it before is that your new system or old?  Whatever it is I like it!!

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    Posted: August 17, 2007, 6:58 pm - IP Logged

    Here is todays Lottery Post RNG 20 lines, I will fill out the slips every other line instead of every two and we'll see what comes forth.

    Quick Picks Random Number Generator (RNG)Quick Picks Random Number Generator (RNG)

    Your 20 6/39 tickets:

    02 · 05 · 15 · 21 · 23 · 29
    06 · 11 · 15 · 16 · 25 · 28
    03 · 06 · 12 · 19 · 26 · 27
    05 · 12 · 24 · 25 · 37 · 39
    03 · 05 · 26 · 27 · 28 · 29
    03 · 08 · 09 · 18 · 24 · 27
    02 · 07 · 13 · 20 · 23 · 33
    11 · 15 · 16 · 24 · 36 · 37
    02 · 19 · 26 · 31 · 33 · 37
    01 · 02 · 14 · 24 · 26 · 37
    04 · 12 · 22 · 23 · 29 · 39
    02 · 14 · 26 · 34 · 36 · 39
    01 · 03 · 08 · 29 · 36 · 39
    10 · 21 · 22 · 26 · 33 · 39
    04 · 08 · 25 · 29 · 30 · 34
    05 · 13 · 18 · 22 · 25 · 26
    05 · 07 · 14 · 30 · 38 · 39
    01 · 15 · 17 · 18 · 21 · 37
    03 · 04 · 09 · 15 · 19 · 35
    08 · 14 · 22 · 27 · 30 · 38
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    I think LP RNG will do better with this set.

    OK here they are the tix every other line. I had to saturate the image heavily because they lottery terminal needs a new ribbon.

    dc6081707

    Looking at our lines and DC's QPs immediately after each line, I see less influence from our lines to the DC Qp's than yesterdays when we did every other 2 lines. There are alot of following pairs though. Ticket #3 has a lot of similar 30's.

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      Posted: August 17, 2007, 7:43 pm - IP Logged

      Todd, I am a little confused.  After your discussion of a new rng I did some qp's and the results were impressive.........if I had used the #'s generated and played them yesterday.

      Since I really hadn't used it before is that your new system or old?  Whatever it is I like it!!

      Grrr... that's why I was offering to make both available.

       

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        Posted: August 17, 2007, 8:19 pm - IP Logged

        Grrr... that's why I was offering to make both available.

        Chaos is chaos. There have been incidents where all odds or evens displayed themselves in Florida. There have been times where in the p-3, long unlikely draws have been dormant for a very long time, then all of a sudden manifest themseves.

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        nOMATTER HOW MANY rngS YOU MAKE, RANDOM SITUATIONS WILL ACT ACCORDINGLY.

         

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          Posted: August 17, 2007, 8:58 pm - IP Logged

          How about adding a RNG that picks from predictions mainly for the jackpot games

          in an attempt to colaberate all those 3 out of 5 and 3/4 out of 6.  3 out of 5 is a pretty

          consistent thing around LP

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            Posted: August 17, 2007, 11:58 pm - IP Logged

            How about adding a RNG that picks from predictions mainly for the jackpot games

            in an attempt to colaberate all those 3 out of 5 and 3/4 out of 6.  3 out of 5 is a pretty

            consistent thing around LP

            That's a bit beyond the scope of a Lottery Post tool, but all the data for that can easily be pulled into Excel, and you can do that in Excel.

             

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              Posted: August 18, 2007, 1:12 am - IP Logged

              "the scenario of buying your picks then the QP's seems to result in interesting number sequences, maybe peculiar is a better word"

              I was waiting for someone else to ask this, but this was my first thought when I first saw this topic:

                      How does the terminal know you are the player using your own numbers?  Sounds as if you are saying that when a player uses a card with his own numbers, the terminal generates stranger or different combinations than when you just buy a QP or two.  So how does anyone know when he walks into a store and just gets 5 QPs (without playing your personal numbers) that the person before you didn't play his own numbers? 

                    Am I making sense?

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                Posted: August 18, 2007, 1:50 am - IP Logged

                I think, somehow, if you were to have a playslip with one set of your numbers and the next line marked QP the numbers on the QP line would tend to be a lot closer to the numbers you have chosen (if your numbers are first!). I'm not saying this happemns all the time, but it certainly happens often enough to be noticeable.

                I think if you play it QP for Game A and your numbers for Game B it wouldn't matter.  

                Same scenario, Pick 5 game, $1 a line, if you had two playslips, one with numbers you picked, the other with one game (Game A) marked QP - and you played the QP second, those two sets of numbers would be more independent of each other.

                I think certain number sequences might trigger numbers close to themselves.

                Just a hunch. But I've had some weird occurences with QPs, such as playing at the same place two days in a row and getting the same exact ticket except for one number.

                This is one of those threads when I really miss Rip Snorter.  

                Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

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                There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                  Posted: August 18, 2007, 10:32 am - IP Logged

                  The results were 11-18-19-21-29-31 BB 6

                  The LP RNG scored 19 hits $0

                  The DC QP RNG scored 31 hits with a single 3 of 6 for $2 net loss $18.

                  The first ticket had all 6 winning numbers on the first 4 lines and that is where the 3 of 6 is. As far as coming to any conclusion as to whether or not the numbers seed or follow is again a matter of opinion on this round. I think they do especially in the scenarios that Coin Toss describes. I think I will pick my own and use an abbreviated wheel which will have 14 wheeled numbers instead of all different RNG's and see what happens with the DC QP's seeded by the wheel.

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                    Posted: August 18, 2007, 9:20 pm - IP Logged

                    Ok here you go I haven't checked results but tonight I spent a little more time to examine what the machine gave versus the picks I made with 15 lines from a wheel.

                    dc6081807

                    I did a line to line check of my numbers versus the QP's generated, there were only 2 lines that had no numbers duplicated by the DCQPicker, there were 5 lines that had 1 number duplicated,there were 3 lines that had 2 numbers duped., and there is one line that had 4 numbers duplicated by the Qpicker!.

                     The last ticket I did, 2 mine 2 QP and 3 mine 3 QP, on the 2 mine it gave back on two lines two numbers, and on the three mine it put the first three numbers of the third my line into the following 3 Qp's.

                    The real interesting one is the 2nd. ticket tonight, every line on that ticket had 1 and 2 numbers from my lines and on the fifth it matched 4. I know it is hard to read the 2nd. ticket but I chose:

                    05-14-15-19-29-30

                    it gave:

                    05-14-19-24-29-31. almost a 5 match!

                    I can't argue with myself anymore because I have always believed the QP's somehow are related to what is being played at that moment at that terminal, sometimes more so than others, but there you have it, some real evidence that it is not totally random and unrelated.

                    It may be some sort of timer the programmers have thrown into the code and in computers, 1 millisecond is an eternity.  It is as if, as numbers are being purchased it (the seed code) goes valid to seed the QPs somehow and if that period expires it won't seed. This may be an explanation to what JX was alluding to earlier that if you walk in behind someone how it knows the diff. anyway I've reinforced my belief this happens, I may try it on a ball draw game like bonusmatch 5 for grins with the same numbers two nights or three in a row and see if there is any similarity with the QPs it gives back, playing the same lines several nights in a row.

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                      Posted: August 19, 2007, 7:55 pm - IP Logged

                      Well if I didn't mention what happened today after buying DCDaily6 this topic may have ended but Coin Toss must know!

                      I won't post the tickets unless someone feels it necessary, but I bought my usual $15 DC6 30 lines, an abbreviated wheel 14 numbers, so my total with my P4's came to $13 so I asked for two PowerBall Quickie Picks for a total $15, the first PowerBall line had the first 3 digits of my wheel in order! 02, 06, 07!

                      Was it a coincidence? Was it interesting, peculiar? Two different games to boot.

                      I say it is "cwazy old computers"!

                      Those machines must have old code and memory stack clearing problems from the old hardware in those terminals. I mean they have mux boxes with adapters for RS-422 to some archaic RJ-45 serial plugs connecting the terminals to the main frame.  I think these terminals are quasi host-terminal services machines...........They must go local momentarily creating the QP's and the memory is being overwhelmed by REQ/ACK type commands from the local code running at that moment.

                      I think I am going to try MD., with this QP thing, their computers and equipment is much newer than DC's, and see what happens.

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                        Posted: August 19, 2007, 9:31 pm - IP Logged

                        Well if I didn't mention what happened today after buying DCDaily6 this topic may have ended but Coin Toss must know!

                        I won't post the tickets unless someone feels it necessary, but I bought my usual $15 DC6 30 lines, an abbreviated wheel 14 numbers, so my total with my P4's came to $13 so I asked for two PowerBall Quickie Picks for a total $15, the first PowerBall line had the first 3 digits of my wheel in order! 02, 06, 07!

                        Was it a coincidence? Was it interesting, peculiar? Two different games to boot.

                        I say it is "cwazy old computers"!

                        Those machines must have old code and memory stack clearing problems from the old hardware in those terminals. I mean they have mux boxes with adapters for RS-422 to some archaic RJ-45 serial plugs connecting the terminals to the main frame.  I think these terminals are quasi host-terminal services machines...........They must go local momentarily creating the QP's and the memory is being overwhelmed by REQ/ACK type commands from the local code running at that moment.

                        I think I am going to try MD., with this QP thing, their computers and equipment is much newer than DC's, and see what happens.

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                        P.S. The reason it came to $13 I had $11 worth of winners from yesterday's QP experiment.White Bounce

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                          Posted: August 25, 2007, 11:32 pm - IP Logged

                          Okay - can't tell if it's a coincidence, since I'm aware of this now, but it just happened to me.  I played my regular numbers and then asked for 2 QPs ($52 million jackpot...so why not?) 

                          There are 3 numbers that are the same and the 3 others are very close.  The pattern for both QPs is almost identical to what I usually play. 

                          Maybe you've gotten something here, Jarasan!Idea

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                            Posted: August 26, 2007, 12:06 am - IP Logged

                            I think so.....I've noticed the same thing. Therefore I put my personal picks on one slip and quick picks on separate slips.  Call it crazy...but whatever works.

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                              Posted: August 26, 2007, 12:17 am - IP Logged

                              Thanks for the replies- so it's not just Illinois. 

                              Maybe it's just something inherent with the terminals, somehow, or like Jarasan explained.  

                              Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                              Lep

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