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# Proven Method

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If there was a method that produced winning Pick 3 tickets would you spend \$19.00 to but it?

 YES [ 61 ] [47.66%] NO [ 21 ] [16.41%] MAYBE [ 18 ] [14.06%] I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS A METHOD [ 28 ] [21.88%] Total Valid Votes [ 128 ] Discarded Votes [ 5 ]
Kentucky
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I chose no. Even if a person actually could make profit off it, there's still the trustworthiness of the method to the people that buy it. In the other thread, you said you spend \$40 a day and hit 6 times in 1 month. The thing is though, this involves people spending a lot of money to HOPEFULLY hit a \$500 win.

\$40 x 30 = \$1200

\$500 x 6 = \$3000

So basically you made \$1800 profit. That's a decent chunk of change, but if someone buys this and is going to spend \$40 a day, after a week of playing the game, which is \$280, and not winning \$500, these people aren't going to trust it because they won't be able to afford it. If they can't afford it, your method will get a bad word. So basically, you would probably be better off just using the method yourself.

What about the states with 2 draws? That could get expensive.

If it was a free system I wouldn't comment, but since he wants to sell it, all 3 digits rarely repeat in same order yet this system picked 071 to play the drawing after it hit.

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For a \$500.00 jackpot, I would make that trade. However, I would need some obvious proof.

"Greed makes people do strange things."

-classic Peanuts cartoon strip

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 Posted: September 8, 2007, 11:15 am - IP Logged

The negitivity one encounters during their trial period of anything they do is so exciting !

It makes the journey so much fun

Best of luck to everyone in your picks today and everyday !

You only encounter negativity when you add a pricetag...

hit the top of the pick3 top predictors lists and try again. I only play one number a day if I decide to play, so 40 wouldn't work for me. Neither would paying for an as-yet unproven system. Too many people here posted their systems free for all and overall we're a jaded bunch ;-)

My expense is all in tickets, never paid for a system and never will, because they don't work.

Seriously, have you backtested this against AZ's history?

I beat PA's history with ONE number a day and posted this month's picks to my blog free of charge...

BTW if you upgrade membership you can post all 40 of your picks.

Best of luck with your journey.

Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.

Kentucky
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You only encounter negativity when you add a pricetag...

hit the top of the pick3 top predictors lists and try again. I only play one number a day if I decide to play, so 40 wouldn't work for me. Neither would paying for an as-yet unproven system. Too many people here posted their systems free for all and overall we're a jaded bunch ;-)

My expense is all in tickets, never paid for a system and never will, because they don't work.

Seriously, have you backtested this against AZ's history?

I beat PA's history with ONE number a day and posted this month's picks to my blog free of charge...

BTW if you upgrade membership you can post all 40 of your picks.

Best of luck with your journey.

"I only play one number a day"

Play today's date "908". Dates have hit before and will hit in the future so it's a proven system.

BTW, if it hits you owe me \$19.95.

Zeta Reticuli Star System
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To answer your question about buying the system, from a marketing standppint people spending \$19 or \$20 for a system probably aren't planning - or able- to spend \$40 a day on tickets.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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 Posted: September 8, 2007, 7:39 pm - IP Logged

To answer your question about buying the system, from a marketing standppint people spending \$19 or \$20 for a system probably aren't planning - or able- to spend \$40 a day on tickets.

Some will - some do.

love to nibble those micey feet.

mid-Ohio
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To answer your question about buying the system, from a marketing standppint people spending \$19 or \$20 for a system probably aren't planning - or able- to spend \$40 a day on tickets.

A pool of of say 10 players could afford to spend \$40 a day on lottery tickets but the problem would be finding 10 players who would be willing to contribute \$4 a day for a chance to split \$500 ten ways two or three times a month.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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 Posted: September 8, 2007, 8:45 pm - IP Logged

I chose no. Even if a person actually could make profit off it, there's still the trustworthiness of the method to the people that buy it. In the other thread, you said you spend \$40 a day and hit 6 times in 1 month. The thing is though, this involves people spending a lot of money to HOPEFULLY hit a \$500 win.

\$40 x 30 = \$1200

\$500 x 6 = \$3000

So basically you made \$1800 profit. That's a decent chunk of change, but if someone buys this and is going to spend \$40 a day, after a week of playing the game, which is \$280, and not winning \$500, these people aren't going to trust it because they won't be able to afford it. If they can't afford it, your method will get a bad word. So basically, you would probably be better off just using the method yourself.

People have and do put more money at risk to get a lower rate of return, in stock markets around the world. This is just another matter of risk capital and risk tolerance.

Zeta Reticuli Star System
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A pool of of say 10 players could afford to spend \$40 a day on lottery tickets but the problem would be finding 10 players who would be willing to contribute \$4 a day for a chance to split \$500 ten ways two or three times a month.

What's the point?

\$4 a day (\$120 on one draw a day) for a maybe \$150?)

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

Wandering Aimlessly
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I might buy it out of curiosity, although I'm not sure there really is a proven method. As someone already said, if it's really a proven method, the book should come with a money-back guarantee.  "Win your first straight pick in 90 days or your money back"  or something like that.  Most of the time people will never ask for a refund anyway.  I do - I am the queen of getting rebates, refunds, price guarantees, etc.  My attitude is "don't promise if you can't deliver!"

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 Posted: September 9, 2007, 2:57 am - IP Logged

Now wait a second, WHO ever said I had anything that was "SO GREAT"  I said I have something that I came up with and I hit 6 times in a one month period and twice within a recent three day period.  I don't recall ever saying it was "SO GREAT" as you said.  and why would I want to share it you ask?

Why Not?

Although winning a pick 3 six times in a month is not to shabby, and most people would be extatic doing so, common sense says if most people would be happy doing this if they knew how and I offered my way of doing it for \$19.00 one would think it could sell. I think the profits made from those sales would be a whole lot more than cashing 6 tickets or so per month.  SO that's why I'd like to share it.

I don't think it's too good to be true, but I think it's better than the norm.

Sir I'm not trying to fool you or anyone for that matter. (Please don't suggest that type of thing) I have the proof and I'm posting my predictions for my state like 20 or more hrs prior to the drawings !  I'm in no way trying to fool anyone.

Thanks for your open invitation, but as far as proving to you or anyone else that I am "SO GREAT"  (that ain't gonna happen) because I never ventured out to try and do that!  I simply stated that I have a way to produce more winners than the avaerage Joe produces and more often.

Watch My Numbers in the ARIZONA state lottery is all.      and you decide.        NO FOOLING ANYONE HERE      (Not trying to do that)

GOOD LUCK in your plays today and I hope you win the big one !

Please  double  check  your  system , because  there  will  be  dry  spells  and  your  system  will  go  flat  enjoy  your  open  window  of  opportunity  now  ...because  beginning  today  it  may  never  work  again  .......On  sept.  01 ,2007 ..... I  just  knew  I  had  the  winning  system  and  the  Lottery  showed  me  That  all  numbers  can  be  fixed ...change  of  Balls  or  employees or  even  the  machines ...be  carefull  and  spend  your  money  wisely ......you  get  rich  first   and  people  will  begg  you  for  a  tip;

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I might buy it out of curiosity, although I'm not sure there really is a proven method. As someone already said, if it's really a proven method, the book should come with a money-back guarantee.  "Win your first straight pick in 90 days or your money back"  or something like that.  Most of the time people will never ask for a refund anyway.  I do - I am the queen of getting rebates, refunds, price guarantees, etc.  My attitude is "don't promise if you can't deliver!"

Would you really want a 90 days money back guaranteed on a \$19 system that required you to spend \$40 a day or \$3600 during the trial period?  If you're willing to spend \$3600, with odds of 1:1000,  chances  are you're going to win a \$500 prize without the system.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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well just a though when we use 40 number the winning changes for boxed is +/- 23%  and for straight maybe +/- 7% or per month +/- 0.23 * 30 = 6.9 = 6 times

altough next draw remains unknow but using number group, pattern, vtrac, etc would be increase the winning chances

for example AZ last 100 using

 Group Exp. Ticket hit skip 6-Way 123 21.6% 36 21 1 205 206 207 215 216 217 245 246 247 305 306 307 315 316 317 345 346 347 805 806 807 815 816 817 845 846 847 905 906 907 915 916 917 945 946 947 112 14.4% 30 17 7 230 231 234 280 281 284 290 291 294 380 381 384 390 391 394 890 891 894  3way: 220 221 224 330 331 334 880 881 884 990 991 994 113 14.4% 30 21 5 235 236 237 285 286 287 295 296 297 385 386 387 395 396 397 895 896 897  3way: 225 226 227 335 336 337 885 886 887 995 996 997 122 10.8% 24 8 4 201 204 214 301 304 314 801 804 814 901 904 914  3way: 200 211 244 300 311 344 800 811 844 900 911 944 133 10.8% 24 10 0 256 257 267 356 357 367 856 857 867 956 957 967    3way: 255 266 277 355 366 377 855 866 877 955 966 977 223 8.1% 18 8 2 015 016 017 045 046 047 145 146 147  3way: 005 006 007 115 116 117 445 446 447 233 8.1% 18 6 10 056 057 067 156 157 167 456 457 467  3way: 055 066 077 155 166 177 455 466 477 111 6.4% 20 4 35 238 239 289 389  3way: 223 228 229 233 288 299 338 339 388 399 889 899 222 333 888 999 222 2.7% 10 3 27 014  3way: 001 004 011 044 114 144 000 111 444 333 2.7% 10 2 19 567  3way: 556 557 566 577 667 677 555 666 777

group 123 give 5 hit in last 30 draws

 Hit Summary with 10 interval 3 groups 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 total 123 2 2 1 2 3 1 2 3 4 1 21 112 1 1 1 2 2 5 1 2 2 0 17 113 2 3 2 2 3 0 2 2 2 3 21 122 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 3 8 133 2 1 2 0 0 1 2 0 2 0 10 223 2 1 2 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 8 233 0 1 0 1 0 3 1 0 0 0 6 111 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 4 222 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 3 333 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 2

or if we use AZ trend

1: 2479
2: 013
3: 568

groups 123 give 7 hit in last 30 draws

 Group Exp. Ticket hit skip 6-Way 123 21.6% 36 22 6 205 206 208 215 216 218 235 236 238 405 406 408 415 416 418 435 436 438 705 706 708 715 716 718 735 736 738 905 906 908 915 916 918 935 936 938 112 14.4% 30 13 3 240 241 243 270 271 273 290 291 293 470 471 473 490 491 493 790 791 793  3way: 220 221 223 440 441 443 770 771 773 990 991 993 113 14.4% 30 14 0 245 246 248 275 276 278 295 296 298 475 476 478 495 496 498 795 796 798  3way: 225 226 228 445 446 448 775 776 778 995 996 998 122 10.8% 24 13 1 201 203 213 401 403 413 701 703 713 901 903 913  3way: 200 211 233 400 411 433 700 711 733 900 911 933 133 10.8% 24 8 9 256 258 268 456 458 468 756 758 768 956 958 968    3way: 255 266 288 455 466 488 755 766 788 955 966 988 223 8.1% 18 8 5 015 016 018 035 036 038 135 136 138  3way: 005 006 008 115 116 118 335 336 338 233 8.1% 18 7 12 056 058 068 156 158 168 356 358 368  3way: 055 066 088 155 166 188 355 366 388 111 6.4% 20 6 21 247 249 279 479  3way: 224 227 229 244 277 299 447 449 477 499 779 799 222 444 777 999 222 2.7% 10 3 42 013  3way: 001 003 011 033 113 133 000 111 333 333 2.7% 10 6 40 568  3way: 556 558 566 588 668 688 555 666 888

 Hit Summary with 10 interval 3 groups 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 total 123 1 2 3 2 1 2 1 5 5 0 22 112 1 2 1 3 0 2 2 2 0 0 13 113 1 2 2 1 1 1 3 1 2 0 14 122 4 0 1 3 1 0 0 1 0 3 13 133 1 2 0 0 1 0 2 0 0 2 8 223 2 0 2 0 1 2 0 0 0 1 8 233 0 2 0 0 2 2 1 0 0 0 7 111 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 2 1 6 222 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 2 3 333 0 0 0 0 2 1 0 1 1 1 6

good luck for Arizona

Et erunt signa in sole.......Et luna et stellis.......Et presura gentium
Prae confusione sonitus maris.

BOSTON
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hey roadwrench, would love to see you prove your theory in a state like Mass. by using it to find the front 3 #'s in our pick 4 game. Now that would be a challenge,right? Want to test it here? Signed;a doubter.Thanks

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 Posted: September 9, 2007, 11:07 am - IP Logged

Who has the sig that says

You don't hit the number. . .the number hits you.