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Pick 3 : When is the system "Beat"?

Topic closed. 36 replies. Last post 9 years ago by time*treat.

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When can a pick 3 system be considered good?

When it backtests hits to cover the bets [ 10 ]  [19.61%]
when a certain percentage of picks are hits [ 11 ]  [21.57%]
having a short gap between hits [ 19 ]  [37.25%]
Other (explain please ;-) ) [ 11 ]  [21.57%]
Total Valid Votes [ 51 ]  
Discarded Votes [ 5 ]  
RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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Posted: September 16, 2007, 11:18 pm - IP Logged

If you're talking about a system to pick a winner in a pick3 game then you're only considering 1000 combinations at most and for a six way box hit 120 or a three way box 90.  If the system considers 50% of the possible combinations for those categories and doesn't include a winner then it's no better than a RNG.

My system use a bias based on the most recent drawings compared to earlier drawings to pick combinations for considerations.  I check the system performance by recording all the combinations it considered including those rejected and if there weren't any winners among them then the system was beaten from the get go.  If there were winners among them and only losers were picked to play then I work on the routines that make the final selections.

 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
   
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    JAP69's avatar - alas
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    Posted: September 16, 2007, 11:38 pm - IP Logged

    It could be the game... using the latest version of LRS...

    my best for PA p3 evening 54 hits in 10,510 draws, 0.51% net profit = $16,490 over 29 years ($568 per year)

    pa pick3 MIDDAY 24 hits in 1,683 draws, 1.43% net profit = $10,317 over 5 years ($2,063 per year)

    pa pick4 Evening 25 hits in 7,996 draws, 0.31% net profit = $117,004 over 22 years ($5,318 per year)

    I didn't do pick4 midday yet, but I expect similar results. PA Mid-day pick3 has the shortest gaps (several wins per year) with the highest percent of hits to draws, where pa eve. pick4 has the highest profit (5000:1) with the lowest % of wins to draws

    Playing just 1 number for any of these games keeps it fun... not sickened by a $1 loss like I would be by $40 lost or $100 lost...

    anyone have a better single-line system? don't gotta share it, just want to know if it exists. Wondering if I'm onto something, or if everyone else is getting much better results.

    Where's the other Charlie Buckets out there who stand in lines of people playing dozens of numbers to get your one number in...?

    here's hoping we all have a shot at the golden ticket one day. :-)

    If you are only playing one number you need to find a method to pick one combo from the 220 box combos that you feel is ready to hit.

    Then you place that number in exact order that you think it will hit.

    If I were just playing one dollar per day str8 I would put a little more zip in my game and play 2 numbers str8 for .50 cents each.

    There are many ways to pick just one combo.

    MAGA

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      Posted: October 11, 2007, 6:26 pm - IP Logged

      how can i get some infor on your winning system.

        Hans's avatar - Lottery-029.jpg
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        Posted: October 14, 2007, 4:34 am - IP Logged

        Simply play those 36 tickets. :)

                 1 00 04 07
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        Hans

          JAP69's avatar - alas
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          Posted: October 16, 2007, 8:23 am - IP Logged

          how can i get some infor on your winning system.

          A winning system generally falls with the player themselves on their ability to choose correctly the winning numbers.

          My blog has many ideas for paper and pencil as well as software analysis.

          There are automated systems out there . All depends how well they are programmed to pick winners.

          MAGA

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            Posted: October 19, 2007, 1:49 am - IP Logged

            When is the system beat?

            if you know FOR CERTAIN that you win every 5 tries and quintiple your bets....I am assuming you are betting no more than 10 dollars...If you are certain that in the 3 days you will get 1 of those days right then bet 30 dollars and not 1 dollar....30 X 500 is 15,000 dollars....But for this you must learn to be correct with a very few numbers...

            you have a system bet when you can afford to bet 50 dollars on 1 numbers and be confident i'll come out and pay you: 25,000 in 1 try....Specially the doubles...

            you know the system is beat when you can make 2,000 ahead of the game every month....

              time*treat's avatar - radar

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              Posted: October 21, 2007, 7:08 pm - IP Logged

              This would be for a pick 3 system that shoots for straights, produces only one number for each draw.

              Is it more important to have short gaps between hits, to beat history, or to have a certain % of hits vs. draws?

              My current LRS has the following stats (against PA pick3 evening)...

              51 straight hits in 10,500+ draws (less than half a percent)

              returned 15,000 in addition to covering the 10,500 to play (on paper)

              Has gaps as short as 1 month and as long as 2 and 1/2 years between straight hits. (not counting boxes)

              I'm trying to determine if it's worth refining this system or just starting fresh with a completely new system...

              There is no shortage of schmoes who will tell you your method is no-good because it doesn't hit as often as they'd like. These types tend to have demands that are inversely related to their own system building skills. 

              Other: The game is "beat" when you, the system designer, are happy with your results.

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