Retired auto worker, 2 children claim $314M Powerball lottery jackpot

Sep 12, 2007, 5:32 pm (30 comments)

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A retired auto worker and his two adult children claimed a $314 million Powerball jackpot Monday after waiting two weeks to step forward.

"I know the world is going to turn upside down," said David Coterel, 65, of Riverside, Ohio. Coterel's daughter, Lynn Hiles, 46, said she has quit her job as a postal worker in Dayton, Ohio. Her 42-year-old brother, David Coterel, recently took a buyout from his job at an auto parts plant.

Neither has any children, and their mother, Dorothy, died of cancer three years ago.

The family decided to take the cash option on the prize from the Aug. 25 drawing, meaning they will collect $145,985,099 before taxes, Hoosier Lottery executive director Kathryn Densborn said.

The elder Coterel, 65, who is retired from General Motors, bought the quick-pick ticket the afternoon of the drawing.

"I lost it," he said of learning he had the winning ticket. "I'm an emotional person, but I really lost it."

The winning ticket bearing the numbers 2, 8, 23, 29, 35 and Powerball 19 was bought at a Speedway convenience store in Richmond, along the Indiana-Ohio state line about 100 kilometres east of Indianapolis.

David Coterel Jr., left, David Coterel, center, and Lynn Hiles display their $314.3 million prize during a press conference Monday.The first person he called was his daughter, who quit her job as a nightshift postal worker in Dayton two days later.

Coterel Jr., who took a buyout from his job as a machine repairman at a Delphi auto parts plant but continued as a temporary worker, quit his job a day after his sister left hers.

"The hardest part was a lack of sleep," the younger Coterel said. "You lay down and your mind races: What am I going to do? What am I going to do? There's a lot of questions."

This afternoon, Hiles and Coterel Jr. had some thoughts about how they would spend the money, but the elder Coterel said he still was waiting for inspiration.

"Right now, I have no idea," he said. "But I'm sure something is going to come up."

The store where the winning ticket was sold is about five kilometres on U.S. 40 from another Speedway store that sold the winning ticket for a $295.7 million Powerball jackpot to a group of 13 co-workers from a factory in suburban Columbus, Ohio, in July 1998.

The 1998 jackpot was the largest of its kind to that point. Last month's jackpot is the fourth-largest in the 22-year history of the multistate Powerball game.

Powerball is played in 29 states, Washington, D.C., and the U.S. Virgin Islands. The record jackpot was $365 million won by eight workers at a Nebraska meatpacking plant in February 2006.

Wire Reports, Lottery Post Staff

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DoubleDown

Congratulations to the Coterels !!

 

 Good things happen to good folks.

JackpotWanna's avatarJackpotWanna

Please adopt me.  I don't eat much.  I sleep on the floor.  I always do my chores without complaint. 

Guru101's avatarGuru101

Congratulations. Hopefully, I'll have my turn soon.Big Grin

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Guru101 on Sep 12, 2007

Congratulations. Hopefully, I'll have my turn soon.Big Grin

How many emails did you send to Lynn Hiles asking her to marry you?

ROFL

Guru101's avatarGuru101

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 12, 2007

How many emails did you send to Lynn Hiles asking her to marry you?

ROFL

Even if she would say yes, that would never happen. I'd be happy winning $1M, but I wouldn't mind winning tonight's Hoosier Lotto drawing for $46.5M.Smile

justxploring's avatarjustxploring

Quote: Originally posted by JackpotWanna on Sep 12, 2007

Please adopt me.  I don't eat much.  I sleep on the floor.  I always do my chores without complaint. 

Why would you want to live with a multi-millionare who would make you sleep on the floor, starve you and ask you do chores? 

What? 

"I know the world is going to turn upside down"

Absolutely.  So much more realistic than the winners who say "Everything is going to be the same. Maybe I'll buy a new lawnmower." 

superbama

Is the reporter Canadian cause I'm pretty sure they do not use kilometers in Ohio?

sirbrad's avatarsirbrad

Seems like the lottery is leaving out how many tickets people actually buy a lot lately. I highly doubt one, which is what the lottery would like you to believe. I am willing to bet most winners are getting 40-100 at least, not 1-5 even if it is possible to win with one ticket. Oh and it seems that anyone under 65 rarely wins much anymore.

mylollipop's avatarmylollipop

Just love stories like these!Party

computerhead723's avatarcomputerhead723

Quote: Originally posted by sirbrad on Sep 13, 2007

Seems like the lottery is leaving out how many tickets people actually buy a lot lately. I highly doubt one, which is what the lottery would like you to believe. I am willing to bet most winners are getting 40-100 at least, not 1-5 even if it is possible to win with one ticket. Oh and it seems that anyone under 65 rarely wins much anymore.

Notice  also  t hat  the  winning  numbers  are   sold  near  the   border  of  the   state  line;

Now......people   who    run  state  lottery's  wouldn't  cheat  the   citizens  in   the   larger  cities   or  the   vast   section   of  the   state  ( who   support  the   lottery   in  the  Millions  of   dollars)  out   of   a   large   win   would  they  ??????????People  from   all  over  the   state  got   tickets  and     lost   every   dime  -yet  ....the   winners   show  up  on  a   terminal  in  the   smallest   town ,within   walking  distance   from  the   state  line ...wonder  if   they  also  have   had   multiple   instant   ticket  winners  also ?????  would  they  by  selling   us   the   loosers  .....!!!!!!!!!?????????

seems   like   I  heard   multiple   stories   like   that   here  in  NY  .....winning   tickets   sold  in   obscurie  places , where  t he   vast   majority   of   people  couldn't   get   there   by   Grayhound  !!!

JackpotWanna's avatarJackpotWanna

Quote: Originally posted by justxploring on Sep 12, 2007

Why would you want to live with a multi-millionare who would make you sleep on the floor, starve you and ask you do chores? 

What? 

"I know the world is going to turn upside down"

Absolutely.  So much more realistic than the winners who say "Everything is going to be the same. Maybe I'll buy a new lawnmower." 

PartyI am hoping he has a big heart.  Sharing his food, giving me a nice bed.  Wouldn't be bad cleaning his BMW.  Maybe he will let be go on a test ride.  lol

wizeguy's avatarwizeguy

Congrats to the Coterel family! Enjoy your winnings and do things you had only dreamed about. Another one for the QuikPiks! Thumbs Up

AuntiePat's avatarAuntiePat

Wasn't it someone on this board who pointed out last week that the vendor was in a border area so the winner could very well have been from another state or a traveler passing through.  Looks as though we have good intuitions (for everything but the winning number--LOL!!)

RJOh's avatarRJOh

Quote: Originally posted by AuntiePat on Sep 13, 2007

Wasn't it someone on this board who pointed out last week that the vendor was in a border area so the winner could very well have been from another state or a traveler passing through.  Looks as though we have good intuitions (for everything but the winning number--LOL!!)

It was not only pointed out by an LP member but also by a local news reporter since it had happened before.  Before Ohio had MegaMillions, a lot of the people buying PowerBall tickets in Richmond were from Ohio.

fja's avatarfja

Did you hear.  He is waiting for CA supper lotto to go into "sudden death".  Then he will by all the tickets and step forward......

DoubleDown

Quote: Originally posted by fja on Sep 13, 2007

Did you hear.  He is waiting for CA supper lotto to go into "sudden death".  Then he will by all the tickets and step forward......

ROFL

awwcrap's avatarawwcrap

Stories like that makes me happySmile,,I hope they don't run into people begging for money,,so they can buy a house.

Guess what fellow LPer's, I got food poisoning from the cafeteria at my place of employmentPukeI know foodpoisoning has nothing to with this story,,but i had to share this with my LP family, heh heh

JackpotWanna's avatarJackpotWanna

Quote: Originally posted by awwcrap on Sep 13, 2007

Stories like that makes me happySmile,,I hope they don't run into people begging for money,,so they can buy a house.

Guess what fellow LPer's, I got food poisoning from the cafeteria at my place of employmentPukeI know foodpoisoning has nothing to with this story,,but i had to share this with my LP family, heh heh

I hope you feel better.  Group Hug

sirbrad's avatarsirbrad

Finally someone smart enough to actually quit their job, or at least admit to it. I was expecting "We will keep working like complete fools, and nothing will change much. It is a lot of money, but not a lot of money..." Sleep  Yawn  Bed

LckyLary

314M - isn't that the exact (annuity value) amount JW won? Someday all of you will be over 65 so you'll enter into the high winning bracket yourself, and by then maybe the jackpots will be over a billion!

Guru101's avatarGuru101

Quote: Originally posted by LckyLary on Sep 14, 2007

314M - isn't that the exact (annuity value) amount JW won? Someday all of you will be over 65 so you'll enter into the high winning bracket yourself, and by then maybe the jackpots will be over a billion!

This one was $314.3M, Jack Whitaker won $314.9M.

KY Floyd's avatarKY Floyd

The difference between this PB jackpot and Jack's is far bigger than those numbers suggest. These people and Jack both chose the lump sum. They're getting about 146 million before taxes and Jack got about 170. Yet another excellent example of how misleading the annuity value is.

Guru101's avatarGuru101

Quote: Originally posted by KY Floyd on Sep 15, 2007

The difference between this PB jackpot and Jack's is far bigger than those numbers suggest. These people and Jack both chose the lump sum. They're getting about 146 million before taxes and Jack got about 170. Yet another excellent example of how misleading the annuity value is.

It's not misleading. You get the prize you choose. You're trying to say that because Jack Whitaker's cash value was $170M and this one was $146M, that the cash value has gone down, but that's not true. It is the interest rates that have gone UP. The cash value is determined first, then they calculate the annuity value. So now, PowerBall can offer a higher annuity prize with less cash than it could 5 years ago.

justxploring's avatarjustxploring

I agree with both of you. Yes, interest rates are a bit higher, but I don't think that's the only reason.  Isn't another reason the lump sum value is lower because PB changed the structure from even payments to gradual increases?  That makes a big difference because the annuitant gets a much smaller check every year and, therefore, more money stays in the pot making it grow.  So the final amount after 30 years is higher but the initial amount is considerably lower.  IMHO this is cheating the player, because most people when they realize all the negatives will take the lump sum.  I wouldn't complain if I "only" ended up with $10 million but that's not the point. Also, I used to think taking annual payments was the way to go until another LP member enlightened me to the fact that, if I bite the dust, my beneficiaries will have to pay estate tax on the entire amount, even though they haven't yet received it.  I looked that up and there have been many lawsuits against the IRS because, of course, people can't possibly pay it without selling the annuity and taking a huge loss. Then they end up with hardly anything.  So maybe it isn't false advertising, but to me it's very deceptive. 

Guru101's avatarGuru101

Quote: Originally posted by justxploring on Sep 15, 2007

I agree with both of you. Yes, interest rates are a bit higher, but I don't think that's the only reason.  Isn't another reason the lump sum value is lower because PB changed the structure from even payments to gradual increases?  That makes a big difference because the annuitant gets a much smaller check every year and, therefore, more money stays in the pot making it grow.  So the final amount after 30 years is higher but the initial amount is considerably lower.  IMHO this is cheating the player, because most people when they realize all the negatives will take the lump sum.  I wouldn't complain if I "only" ended up with $10 million but that's not the point. Also, I used to think taking annual payments was the way to go until another LP member enlightened me to the fact that, if I bite the dust, my beneficiaries will have to pay estate tax on the entire amount, even though they haven't yet received it.  I looked that up and there have been many lawsuits against the IRS because, of course, people can't possibly pay it without selling the annuity and taking a huge loss. Then they end up with hardly anything.  So maybe it isn't false advertising, but to me it's very deceptive. 

People should automatically assume that the advertised jackpot is the annuity amount, so it's not false advertising. It even states on the PowerBall website that the annuity value and cash value are 2 distinct prize options and because it's your option which prize to take, you really having nothing to complain about and there is no cheating of the player. There's also the third option: DON'T PLAY. If someone is going to complain about a game and it's rules, then that person shouldn't even play at all. Either be happy with what the game offers, or don't play, it's as simple as that. Of course, those people who are currently complaining about cash value vs annuity value all of a sudden won, I'm sure they wouldn't be complaining at all.

computerhead723's avatarcomputerhead723

Quote: Originally posted by Guru101 on Sep 15, 2007

People should automatically assume that the advertised jackpot is the annuity amount, so it's not false advertising. It even states on the PowerBall website that the annuity value and cash value are 2 distinct prize options and because it's your option which prize to take, you really having nothing to complain about and there is no cheating of the player. There's also the third option: DON'T PLAY. If someone is going to complain about a game and it's rules, then that person shouldn't even play at all. Either be happy with what the game offers, or don't play, it's as simple as that. Of course, those people who are currently complaining about cash value vs annuity value all of a sudden won, I'm sure they wouldn't be complaining at all.

well I  dis-agree  with   the   assumtion  that  if   you   don't  like   the  RULES  OF  THE   GAME  , AND  YOU  DON'T   AGREE  WITH  THE  GAME  ........don't  play  ;

the  lottery   are   State   run  and  state  controled  (in  part)  and  the  Government   is  You   and   me  and   all  of   its   citizens  .....so   we  do  have  a   right  to   complain......and  to   make  new   laws  concerning   the   lottery  ...I  always   hated  some  new   lotterys  like   Mega  who   pay out   over  26  years.....thats   way   to  long   I  say  20  yrs,.   is   considered  life;

I  prefer  my  money   while  I  am   alive   not   dead @Time   is  also   against  the  value  of  money 

 and  gives  weight  to   your   argument  on   the   annuity ;    

Guru101's avatarGuru101

Quote: Originally posted by computerhead723 on Sep 15, 2007

well I  dis-agree  with   the   assumtion  that  if   you   don't  like   the  RULES  OF  THE   GAME  , AND  YOU  DON'T   AGREE  WITH  THE  GAME  ........don't  play  ;

the  lottery   are   State   run  and  state  controled  (in  part)  and  the  Government   is  You   and   me  and   all  of   its   citizens  .....so   we  do  have  a   right  to   complain......and  to   make  new   laws  concerning   the   lottery  ...I  always   hated  some  new   lotterys  like   Mega  who   pay out   over  26  years.....thats   way   to  long   I  say  20  yrs,.   is   considered  life;

I  prefer  my  money   while  I  am   alive   not   dead @Time   is  also   against  the  value  of  money 

 and  gives  weight  to   your   argument  on   the   annuity ;    

Wait, you're telling me you don't think someone shouldn't play a game if they don't like the rules? That just doesn't make sense. They know the rules, they should either be happy with them or not, and if they don't, they shouldn't play. Not everyone can be pleased. It's just simple logic. Also, when in my previous post did I say the annuity option is better than the cash option? I didn't. You said you want your money now, but I would guess you are 35 or older. Someone much younger, for example, me, who is 21 years old, might be better off taking the annuity option. Neither of the 2 options is completely better than the other. It just depends on the person who won, and in the end, it's their choice.

computerhead723's avatarcomputerhead723

Quote: Originally posted by Guru101 on Sep 16, 2007

Wait, you're telling me you don't think someone shouldn't play a game if they don't like the rules? That just doesn't make sense. They know the rules, they should either be happy with them or not, and if they don't, they shouldn't play. Not everyone can be pleased. It's just simple logic. Also, when in my previous post did I say the annuity option is better than the cash option? I didn't. You said you want your money now, but I would guess you are 35 or older. Someone much younger, for example, me, who is 21 years old, might be better off taking the annuity option. Neither of the 2 options is completely better than the other. It just depends on the person who won, and in the end, it's their choice.

What  I  said  was  ";;;;

the  lottery  are  State  run  and  state  controled  (in  part)  and  the  Government  is  You  and  me  and  all  of  its  citizens  .....so  we  do  have  a  right  to  complain......and  to  make  new  laws  concerning  the  lottery  "  I  stand  by  my  words  ...state  run  operations   like  the  lottery 

may   make   new   laws   diffficault   but  it  is   our    lottery   and   we  can   change  the   rules  for  the   better............Patriot

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Quote: Originally posted by DoubleDown on Sep 12, 2007

Congratulations to the Coterels !!

 

 Good things happen to good folks.

2nd>>>D>>>motion

car-family>>^^^^^^

PSYKOMO 


dingo's avatardingo

Quote: Originally posted by JackpotWanna on Sep 13, 2007

PartyI am hoping he has a big heart.  Sharing his food, giving me a nice bed.  Wouldn't be bad cleaning his BMW.  Maybe he will let be go on a test ride.  lol

Nice thought, you got there.Big Smile

 

You have a better chance to ask Jack Whittaker. He won the same amount. He's lonely.LOL

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