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Posted: March 26, 2008, 9:59 am - IP Logged

There is no set rule or system..It's just dumb luck..It's ping pong balls.......

Did anyone ever hear about the person in california, on the day he/she went and took the test to become an american citizen, and passed then went and bought a lottery ticket and won a few million dollars?

If you are going to win a jackpot you were destined to do it from the moment u were born. Theres nothing much that you can do to change that. No matter what numbers you play, or how much u play will change the fact if your life was set to win the lottery or not.

Its exactly plain dumb luck, if you pick your numbers its dumb luck that they actually came up

If you do a quick pick its still dumb luck that it hit.   

Its a lottery it means........a gambling game or method of raising money, as for some public charitable purpose, in which a large number of tickets are sold and a drawing is held for certain prizes.

The lottery isnt designed to make the player rich its designed to make the lottery rich. for every 320 million they pay to someone else i gurantee you they put another 500 million in their pockets.

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    Posted: March 26, 2008, 10:08 am - IP Logged

    OK rubberbandman, prove it then.

    One ounce of "did" beats one ton of "gonna". 

    I will, just wait a couple of hours this 26 mill is mine, when somebody win you will know it was me, i've pefected a system that'll change the world forever, but with this great power comes great responsibility, I don't even know if I should be speakin of this online, so i'll cease it, if it works i'll tell you guys all about, I think, I don't really know any of you and i cant be telling you my secrets.

     

    "Gee Brain, what do you want to do tonight?"
    "The same thing we do every night, Pinky- try to take over the world."

    It's time to put this in action.

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      Posted: March 26, 2008, 10:15 am - IP Logged

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      "Nonsense by Catlin.  None of the Quick Picks make any attempt to checkwhat was previously issued before generating your tickets. ..."

       A little background info on Catlin, from the back cover of the book:

      Don Catlin, professor emeritus at the University of Massachusetts, knows his way around the numbers. He has worked for the government designing submarine guidance systems, he's been a consultant to the casino industry concerning game design and results, and he's a regular colunmnist for scoblete.com. Don Catlin is also a player. He knows the thrills involved in challenging chance. 

      Maybe he knows something we don't:

      "...he's been a consultant to the casino industry concerning game design and results,"

      And I have no doubt whatsoever that he or people like him are working for the lotteries.

      I'm not sure that the lottery terminals spit out yet to be played combinations or not, but let's face it, the technology to do so exists.

      Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

      Lep

      There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.


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        Posted: March 26, 2008, 10:23 am - IP Logged

        I don't think the terminals go to that much effort to check the millions of tickets, especially right before the drawing, to see whether a combo has been purchased already. There would be smoke coming out of those terminals....lol

        The terminal I saw In california already had a list on the screen waiting to be printed out. I had a friend who worked at a liquor store that also sold lottery.

        If what this guy is saying is true, then how do you explain the long time it takes for the officials to find out the winner. If the computers were that fast, they'd know who was the winner instantly. ( that was years ago, I'm not sure if the techonology is faster now, so I'm probably wrong on this one...lol).

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          Posted: March 26, 2008, 10:27 am - IP Logged

          Yeah, but as I said before there are ways to beat the system.

          One way seems to be writing lottery books. Clown

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            Posted: March 26, 2008, 2:00 pm - IP Logged

            Im sorry to say it but aint noone on this forum going to win the jackpot including ME

            And you know this how? There are over 50,000 members on this board and not all of them post. How do you know none of them havn't already won a jackpot or will in the future? 

            "No one remembers the person who almost climbed the mountain, only the person who eventually gets to the top."

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              Posted: March 26, 2008, 2:23 pm - IP Logged

              And you know this how? There are over 50,000 members on this board and not all of them post. How do you know none of them havn't already won a jackpot or will in the future? 

              I Agree! No one knows WHO will win a jackpot, in fact someone might win more than one time. If we felt we couldn't win, we wouldn't play.

              Play to win!


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                I will, just wait a couple of hours this 26 mill is mine, when somebody win you will know it was me, i've pefected a system that'll change the world forever, but with this great power comes great responsibility, I don't even know if I should be speakin of this online, so i'll cease it, if it works i'll tell you guys all about, I think, I don't really know any of you and i cant be telling you my secrets.

                 

                "Gee Brain, what do you want to do tonight?"
                "The same thing we do every night, Pinky- try to take over the world."

                It's time to put this in action.

                And if you don't win,what do we get out of it?

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                  Posted: March 26, 2008, 2:57 pm - IP Logged

                  And if you don't win,what do we get out of it?

                  What are you talking about, if I don't win then that proves my system didn't work doesn't it.?


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                    Posted: March 26, 2008, 3:57 pm - IP Logged

                    What are you talking about, if I don't win then that proves my system didn't work doesn't it.?

                    Well,since I'm not a big believer in systems,I'm pretty sure that yours isn't the one that "will change the world forever",to use your words.

                    However,my comment had to do with your habit of baiting people into an argument and then crying that people are picking on you.I was hoping that maybe you'd give us a break from that.

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                      Posted: March 26, 2008, 4:37 pm - IP Logged

                      If there was actually a useful method of eliminating combinations that were unlikely to be drawn, that would be a prediction formula. Unfortunately, there is no way to determine which combinations are unlikely to be drawn. It's easy to fool the gullible people, because you can pick any million "unlikely" combinations, and random probability means that none of them is likely to be drawn. The reality is that picking an "unlikely" combination and having it drawn is exactly as difficult as picking a "likely" combination and having it drawn. Saying you're eliminating a bunch of combinations is just another way of saying you're good enough to pick a lot of losers.

                      Unfortunately, there is no way to determine which combinations are unlikely to be drawn.

                      100% of the time, no, but the majority of the time, yes. There are some things that go on more than 95% of the time when a new result comes out. I can understand how you don't believe me though because when you see lottery results for a Pick 6 game, the only thing you're looking at is 6 numbers that were randomly chosen. The thing is, there's more to it than that. Those 6 winning numbers as an entirety have characteristics that can be compared to the last drawing. Going through the previous results, each time comparing those characteristics to the characteristics of the drawing before it, you will see there are differences and similiarities that you can use to find out what sets are not most likely to occur on the next drawing. Problem is, since we're dealing with millions of possible combinations, the only effective way of finding sets that are considered good is by writing a computer program. This is the closest description I have given of my system without giving it away. Trust me, it's there.

                      Gonna win.Big Smile

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                        Posted: March 26, 2008, 4:43 pm - IP Logged

                        Sure, it's rare to see combinations that start that high, but that's only because there are so few combinations that can be made from the few numbers available. What's much more rare is having the combination you played come out.

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                          Posted: March 26, 2008, 4:45 pm - IP Logged

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                          "Nonsense by Catlin.  None of the Quick Picks make any attempt to checkwhat was previously issued before generating your tickets. ..."

                           A little background info on Catlin, from the back cover of the book:

                          Don Catlin, professor emeritus at the University of Massachusetts, knows his way around the numbers. He has worked for the government designing submarine guidance systems, he's been a consultant to the casino industry concerning game design and results, and he's a regular colunmnist for scoblete.com. Don Catlin is also a player. He knows the thrills involved in challenging chance. 

                          Maybe he knows something we don't:

                          "...he's been a consultant to the casino industry concerning game design and results,"

                          And I have no doubt whatsoever that he or people like him are working for the lotteries.

                          I'm not sure that the lottery terminals spit out yet to be played combinations or not, but let's face it, the technology to do so exists.

                          I'm sure he knows plenty that most players don't know. That doesn't mean he knows anything that's beneficial to anyone who's already  moderately knowledgeable. If QP generators make any effort to avoid duplication (the only readily available evidence says they attempt to generate combinations randomly) then it shouldn't matter when you buy the ticket. If you buy the very first ticket, the machines will attempt to not use your number for any subsequent tickets. If you buy the very last ticket the machine will attempt to give you a number that hasn't been used. I don't see any reason why your ticket, having been bought last, would be less likely to match some previous ticket than some subsequent ticket would be to match the first ticket sold.

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                            Well,since I'm not a big believer in systems,I'm pretty sure that yours isn't the one that "will change the world forever",to use your words.

                            However,my comment had to do with your habit of baiting people into an argument and then crying that people are picking on you.I was hoping that maybe you'd give us a break from that.

                            If you couldn't tell, I was using sarcasm

                            "then crying that people are picking on you", When?

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                              Posted: March 26, 2008, 5:28 pm - IP Logged

                              And you know this how? There are over 50,000 members on this board and not all of them post. How do you know none of them havn't already won a jackpot or will in the future? 

                              They have faith in probability. There may be 50,000 people who have visited LP at one time or another, but there are no where near that many that can be reasonably considered members as of now. A thread that is popular and sticks around for a while may get 2500 "views", but that doesn't mean 2500 people have looked at it. Each time you look at a page of the thread it counts as a view, so a thread that shows 2500 views and is 10 pages long has been looked at by no more than 250 people, and that assumes that nobody looked at any of the pages more than once.

                              If we figure that there are 5000 people who could be considered members, and 2500 of them spend an average of $1000 per year on jackpot games, then as a collective, LP members buy 2.5 million tickets each year. That means that we could expect one of them to win MM or PB once every 60 to 70 years, and a typical state game about once every 10 years. I'm guessing that my figure of 2.5 million tickets per year is high, so an LP member winning would be even less likely. Saying that nobody here is going to win isn't much of a risk.