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Start off with only 527 numbers ...not 1000 each day.

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For a walk down memory lane: The entire thread can be viewed here:

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    For a walk down memory lane: The entire thread can be viewed here:

    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/92512/237388

    Thanks; I must have missed that spam thread.  I've removed all the spam links from it.  The only reason that guy was posting on this site and "helping" people was to sell his stuff.  That's actually something he admitted to me shortly before I cut him loose.  He said he would not post on Lottery Post if he was not allowed to post links to his products, and that if he was allowed to stay, he would not refrain from posting spam.  Just a huckster from where I see it.

     

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      Thanks; I must have missed that spam thread.  I've removed all the spam links from it.  The only reason that guy was posting on this site and "helping" people was to sell his stuff.  That's actually something he admitted to me shortly before I cut him loose.  He said he would not post on Lottery Post if he was not allowed to post links to his products, and that if he was allowed to stay, he would not refrain from posting spam.  Just a huckster from where I see it.

           ....... This is very true !

       

           I don't know whats wrong with him ....but..... it's one of those really hard to pronounce....... long words !     LOL

       

       

      The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                    Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                    Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                             Win d    

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         Can anyone or does anyone have a method of filtering out the recent hits from those numbers?  Those particular numbers up there. 

              Please jump in with any help directions ........  Thanks 

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           Can anyone or does anyone have a method of filtering out the recent hits from those numbers?  Those particular numbers up there. 

                Please jump in with any help directions ........  Thanks 

          The same vtrac combo returning

          Hmm...  I don't, but that's an interesting proposition, and would make for some interesting filtering possibilties (in all its various forms).  I'll keep that one in mind.

           

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             Can anyone or does anyone have a method of filtering out the recent hits from those numbers?  Those particular numbers up there. 

                  Please jump in with any help directions ........  Thanks 

            The same vtrac combo returning

            I've been thinking that a Low/High Filter in conjunction with Vtracs Combinations would aid in Number Reduction.

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              Posted: July 10, 2008, 3:32 pm - IP Logged

              WinD...

              I back checked to Feb. and they avg. about 11-12 times a month that a digit will repeat itself the next draw in its exact position.... so your looking close to 40% of the time... in WC.  One month only had 4 but the others all had either 11 or 12.  You take 12 days out of a 30 day month, and that doesn't leave you much to win with as these 12 days would all be losses.  Sure if you could hit a str8 on the other 18 its gravy... but you have doubles, triples and 3 digit returns as wel lthat could mess with you.

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                WinD...

                I back checked to Feb. and they avg. about 11-12 times a month that a digit will repeat itself the next draw in its exact position.... so your looking close to 40% of the time... in WC.  One month only had 4 but the others all had either 11 or 12.  You take 12 days out of a 30 day month, and that doesn't leave you much to win with as these 12 days would all be losses.  Sure if you could hit a str8 on the other 18 its gravy... but you have doubles, triples and 3 digit returns as wel lthat could mess with you.

                 Thanks Rakster for the WC stats. Its really good when someone takes the time to test these.  

                  But.... I don't think much has changed stats wise ....on a math average basis. 

                  Like was first indicated ..... because we are only playing singles we can never ever expect to average any better than 72%.  So, we know that much works for sure. Over time this should be universal.

                 One outta 4 draws we are gonna lose (doubles hit) for sure and we know that going in. We've only got a shot at about 22 single number draws a month. The other times its average a double.

                 

                  That still means we are gonna end up with a STRAIGHT ....." Most of the time"

                  If we expect a repeat digit to end on top of itself about every 10th. draw .....that still gives us a clear field at "MOST of the time" there as well. All 3 positions should average every 3 draws or so.

                  2/3 rds. of the time we are gonna end up with a STRAIGHT HIT LIST .... in which that nights number will be in there for us.  

                  So..... of those 22 average singles each month we have a shot at hitting 14 or 15 of them.  Patriot

                 

                         Thats still over 66% of all Single numbers that hit that month.... in spite of the doubles.       

                 

                 

                The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                              Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                              Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                       Win d    

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                  Posted: July 10, 2008, 5:07 pm - IP Logged

                  Wish it worked in California, but it doesn't come close.  Perhaps it is the computers instead of balls.

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                    Posted: July 10, 2008, 5:17 pm - IP Logged

                    Hey WinD,

                    I like you elimination method. 

                    Reduce 1000 down to 527.

                    I'm experimenting this idea up here in PA evening.

                    The filters I will be using is the following:

                    1.  Reduce 1000 down to 527

                    2.  Reduce the 527 down to 97

                         a.  eliminate all sums that are less than 6 and greater than 23

                         b.  eliminate all combos that do NOT have a pair (no-match boxed) in all 3 positions (Front, Back, and Side) that have 29 skips or less.  So I'm using any Boxed Pair that has a skip of 30 or more.

                     

                    PAIRSPA3E
                    8972
                    1467
                    4858
                    4756
                    0446
                    1331
                    2830

                        c.  eliminate any combo that has hit within the last 365 draws.

                     

                    Here are the 97 Picks:

                     

                    BOXSTR8H
                    0242401
                    0244021
                    0244201
                    0340431
                    0344031
                    0344301
                    0454051
                    0454501
                    0464061
                    0464601
                    0466401
                    0470471
                    0474071
                    0474701
                    0477401
                    0484081
                    0484801
                    0488401
                    0490491
                    0494091
                    0898091
                    0899081
                    0899801
                    1231231
                    1231321
                    1232311
                    1242411
                    1244121
                    1341431
                    1344131
                    1344311
                    1351531
                    1355311
                    1361361
                    1366131
                    1366311
                    1371371
                    1377131
                    1388131
                    1388311
                    1391391
                    1399311
                    1455411
                    1461461
                    1464161
                    1471471
                    1474711
                    1477411
                    1481481
                    1484811
                    1491491
                    1499411
                    1891891
                    1899181
                    1899811
                    2382381
                    2382831
                    2388321
                    2472471
                    2477421
                    2484281
                    2484821
                    2488421
                    2898291
                    2899281
                    2899821
                    3474371
                    3474731
                    3477431
                    3484831
                    3488431
                    3898391
                    3899381
                    3899831
                    4574751
                    4575471
                    4584581
                    4584851
                    4585481
                    4588451
                    4674671
                    4674761
                    4676471
                    4677461
                    4684861
                    4686481
                    4784781
                    4787481
                    4788471
                    4799471
                    4894891
                    4898491
                    4899481
                    5898591
                    5899851
                    6896891
                    6899681
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                      I don't get it Jack.  I looked at the last 30 draws starting June 9th. .......and CA eve (only) got 25 Single numbers ....which is above average.

                        Starting with 197 (6/10/08)..... and using just the 6 way numbers .....going from 6 way to 6 way.....   I counted only 5 times it didn't work.   ??? 

                         ...... of the 25 single numbers ..... these were the only ones that repeated on top the next draw 495 259 097 536 548 ......  the other 20 singles worked fine.   

                          I looked at the numbers that repeated in the same position on top of each other the next draw ..... and those 5 up there were the only ones I saw that did that. 

                         Not talking just any repeat comming back in any position next draw now..... it has to come back in the same postion on top the next draw same exact postion ....right?   

                           Maybe it works for the EVE....and not combined or something. .... or ... heck ... I don't know.  Looks real good to me.   Wish they could all be that good.   

                       

                       

                      The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                    Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                    Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                             Win d    

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                        Posted: July 10, 2008, 5:34 pm - IP Logged

                        Chaz,

                          This is a very good str8 system.

                        This is Fla's entire history stat for 1 draw repeats Pos 1. Look at the Max skip for entire history, 4 draws. Only play 3 days-in-a-row. 

                         

                          ONE DRAW REPEATS  MINMAXAVGSKIP
                        90%06674041.11 0
                        10%17501769.90 1
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                          Filter with exact order pairs by position that are in groups 

                          13 low odds

                          024 low evens

                          579 high odds

                          68 high evens

                           

                          Drawing DatePick 3Pick 4
                          MiddayEveningMiddayEvening
                          Thu, Jul 10, 20084-2-06-3-3-8
                          Wed, Jul 9, 20082-4-80-9-27-1-0-45-3-5-8
                          Tue, Jul 8, 20089-5-07-0-15-9-6-70-8-1-0
                          Mon, Jul 7, 20080-7-60-1-05-4-8-67-6-5-7
                          Sun, Jul 6, 2008____0-3-9_____1-2-8-5
                          Sat, Jul 5, 20085-9-09-7-62-4-7-05-6-1-1
                          Fri, Jul 4, 20089-2-94-7-99-6-5-69-8-4-2
                          Thu, Jul 3, 20084-3-99-4-34-4-0-07-0-6-1
                          Wed, Jul 2, 20085-5-53-9-73-4-9-48-5-2-1
                          Tue, Jul 1, 20088-4-20-6-36-6-5-15-1-8-7

                           

                          see the matches that returned?

                          420 low even/low even/low even

                          248 low even /low even/ high even

                          950 high odd/high odd/low even

                          076 low even/ high odd/high even

                          590 high odd/high odd/low even

                          929 high odd/low even/high odd

                          439 low even/low odd/high odd/

                          555 high odd/high odd/high/odd

                          842 high even/low even/low even

                          MAGA

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                            I don't get it Jack.  I looked at the last 30 draws starting June 9th. .......and CA eve (only) got 25 Single numbers ....which is above average.

                              Starting with 197 (6/10/08)..... and using just the 6 way numbers .....going from 6 way to 6 way.....   I counted only 5 times it didn't work.   ??? 

                               ...... of the 25 single numbers ..... these were the only ones that repeated on top the next draw 495 259 097 536 548 ......  the other 20 singles worked fine.   

                                I looked at the numbers that repeated in the same position on top of each other the next draw ..... and those 5 up there were the only ones I saw that did that. 

                               Not talking just any repeat comming back in any position next draw now..... it has to come back in the same postion on top the next draw same exact postion ....right?   

                                 Maybe it works for the EVE....and not combined or something. .... or ... heck ... I don't know.  Looks real good to me.   Wish they could all be that good.   

                            Looking at the last 60 draws in California Evening, there were 21 times it worked.  Maybe that's enough, I don't know the math.  Here are the last 60 Evening draws.  The -# is how many repeat numbers, and of course that has to be greater than zero to even have a chance.  Then the <<< are the ones that have at least one repeat, are not doubles, and don't have a previous digit in the same position.

                            Is 21 out of 60 a money maker?  I don't know.

                            826-1<<<
                            085-1<<<
                            106-0
                            877-0
                            453-0
                            916-0
                            837-1<<<
                            548-1
                            536-1
                            426-1<<<
                            253-0
                            149-0
                            777-1
                            907-0
                            441-1
                            176-1<<<
                            759-2<<<
                            097-1
                            063-1
                            021-1<<<
                            259-1
                            050-1
                            609-1<<<
                            495-1
                            815-0
                            924-0
                            711-1
                            216-2<<<
                            641-1<<<
                            197-1
                            077-0
                            630-1
                            140-1<<<
                            391-2
                            194-1<<<
                            400-1
                            360-2
                            310-1<<<
                            087-0
                            443-1
                            475-1<<<
                            551-1
                            564-1
                            734-0
                            961-2<<<
                            159-1<<<
                            960-1<<<
                            636-0
                            455-0
                            117-1
                            780-0
                            116-0
                            973-2<<<
                            497-0
                            225-1
                            547-1<<<
                            315-1<<<
                            811-0
                            354-2<<<
                            493-0
                            800

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                              Looking at the last 60 draws in California Evening, there were 21 times it worked.  Maybe that's enough, I don't know the math.  Here are the last 60 Evening draws.  The -# is how many repeat numbers, and of course that has to be greater than zero to even have a chance.  Then the <<< are the ones that have at least one repeat, are not doubles, and don't have a previous digit in the same position.

                              Is 21 out of 60 a money maker?  I don't know.

                              826-1<<<
                              085-1<<<
                              106-0
                              877-0
                              453-0
                              916-0
                              837-1<<<
                              548-1
                              536-1
                              426-1<<<
                              253-0
                              149-0
                              777-1
                              907-0
                              441-1
                              176-1<<<
                              759-2<<<
                              097-1
                              063-1
                              021-1<<<
                              259-1
                              050-1
                              609-1<<<
                              495-1
                              815-0
                              924-0
                              711-1
                              216-2<<<
                              641-1<<<
                              197-1
                              077-0
                              630-1
                              140-1<<<
                              391-2
                              194-1<<<
                              400-1
                              360-2
                              310-1<<<
                              087-0
                              443-1
                              475-1<<<
                              551-1
                              564-1
                              734-0
                              961-2<<<
                              159-1<<<
                              960-1<<<
                              636-0
                              455-0
                              117-1
                              780-0
                              116-0
                              973-2<<<
                              497-0
                              225-1
                              547-1<<<
                              315-1<<<
                              811-0
                              354-2<<<
                              493-0
                              800

                              You are counting repeat numbers, WinD is counting by position.

                               

                              Example

                              Your last 7 draws, the numbers in red are the repeats!!

                              225-1
                              547-1<<<
                              315-1<<<
                              811-0
                              354-2<<<
                              493-0
                              800