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I can get closer to a win doing just all ODD/Evens

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WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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Posted: July 31, 2008, 6:31 pm - IP Logged

Thanks RJOH ....  I knew you would have some good insights on these. Thank for the effort there.

 It was gratifying to find the number was 37 All odd hits during that time.... a little better than the expected math average we calculated up there of 32 hits.  Still .... + or -  about in range ....pretty good.

 

 Between the All odds and All evens during that time we should have averaged 59 hits for both groups in Ohio.

 That was also gratifying since the real world hits were totaled 62 hits  .....as oppossed to what we calulated it to end up with as 59 hits  . 

  Got within 3 hits ......over a 3.4 year period.     59 estimated      62 actual hits

  Not to bad .   This game has pretty good manners ....  LOL  

 

 

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                              Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                              Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                       Win d    

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    Posted: July 31, 2008, 6:59 pm - IP Logged

    I can get closer to a win doing just all ODD/Evens

    What the heck does this mean?  I've gotten 4 out of 5 in Fantasy-5 (Florida) 6 times since Aug 07 and close doesn't count.  You either win about $80-$100 bucks or you win the whole enchilada.  There is no "close." 

      WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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       Oh , I think I understand where you are coming from justxploring .   If, I read this correctly .....

        Based on your experience and win record your saying ...

       

            If you get 4 out of 5 numbers right in the Fantasy-5 (Florida) you win $80-100 bucks .....but, if you don't get all 5 of the numbers correct then you can not win the whole enchilada. You can win a little money if you get a few numbers, but that's not even close to winning the whole enchilada.

            I understand.         

       

       

      The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                    Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                    Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                             Win d    

        justxploring's avatar - villiarna
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        Posted: July 31, 2008, 8:18 pm - IP Logged

        I think that's the expression, although I prefer burritos & quesadillas.

          WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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          Posted: July 31, 2008, 10:20 pm - IP Logged

          For those interested in the math and statistics here are some universal truths. Not only for pick-5 but other lottery games as far the number pool you use ......and the possible combinations that that gives us.

            * This demonstrates my orginal statement as to playing the All even/odd as opposed to Mixed numbers or quick picks.  

            This will make it obvious what playing a smaller number pool does to the possible combinations created.  Note the All even pool .....of 19 numbers down there ....and the All odd combinations at 20 pool numbers.

                                      Fact ...Lower is better Patriot

           

            If you play 5 number pool ......there is only       1 combination possible

                              6 number pool .....there is only      6 combinations

                                    7           ''                                 21 combinations

                                    8 "                      "                    56 combos

                                    9 ............................................126

                                   10..........252

                                   11..... 462

                                   12 ....792

                                   13.....1,297

                                    14.....2,002

                                    15....3003

                                    16 ....4,368

                                    17....6,199

                                    18 ... 8,568

                                     19..............  11,628   all even combinations possible

                                      20 .........     15, 504 all odd combinations possible

                                      21........20,349

                                       22........26, 349

                                        23....33,649

                                          24.....42,594

                                          25......53,130

                                           26....65,790

                                            27 .... 90,730

                                             28..... 98,290

                                              29......119,755

                                               30......237,336

                                                31....

                                                 32.....

                                                  35....

                                                   36......

                                                     37....... 435,897

                                                      38 ........ 501, 942

                                                       39....... 575, 757   total combinations using all 39 numbers.

           

           

          The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                        Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                        Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                 Win d    

            RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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            If you limited your numbers to multiple of 3 in a 5/39 game then you would limit your number pool to thirteen numbers or 1287 possible combinations, but that wouldn't reduce your odds of winning to 1:1287

            Of the 1255 drawings of Ohio Rolling Cash5(5/39) only 2 had 5 numbers that were multiple of 3.

            05/03/07   03 12 15 18 33
            12/07/04   06 09 12 15 36
             

             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
               
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              WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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              Posted: August 1, 2008, 7:46 am - IP Logged

              Very interesting RJOH...      Multiples of 3's huh?  1287 combinations .....  I never would have thought of that as a group.

                 But.....  That group should end up falling .....around 4 times a year...average.

                 If we never play anything else but those Multiples of 3 group....... on the day those hit during the year our odds will then be ....... 1: 1287   

                                                            1: 1287    instead of        1: 575,757     

               

                 I might just make that group my pet Pick 5 numbers RJOH. Even if I only play one ticket in that group each day.......if I am patient .......on the days that group hits...... the odds go down to minus - 574,470 ...... playing just one ticket I have a .... 1 N 1,287  odds chance on those particular days...at the very least. Perhaps I could say .....at the very most. On those particular days... Muti of 3 group draw days that hit during the year.  On those days....I will know for sure.... I was no further away than 1287 numbers form winning the entire thing. My number could even be .....the winner !   

               "The more we can lower the ODDS on certain days....the better chance we have to get closer to a win. " 

               

                                                                                            Patriot

               

                 You know ofcourse .....someone's gonna' make a System out of this entire thing and sell it?  LOL  

               

               

              The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                            Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                            Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                     Win d    

                RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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                How do you figure?

                Multiple of 3 have 1287 combinations which is 1287/575757 or 0.22% of all the possible combinations.  0.22% of 365 days equals 0.8 of a day which means one of those combinations could be expected to hit 4 times in 5 years.

                 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                   
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                  Very interesting RJOH...      Multiples of 3's huh?  1287 combinations .....  I never would have thought of that as a group.

                     But.....  That group should end up falling .....around 4 times a year...average.

                     If we never play anything else but those Multiples of 3 group....... on the day those hit during the year our odds will then be ....... 1: 1287   

                                                                1: 1287    instead of        1: 575,757     

                   

                     I might just make that group my pet Pick 5 numbers RJOH. Even if I only play one ticket in that group each day.......if I am patient .......on the days that group hits...... the odds go down to minus - 574,470 ...... playing just one ticket I have a .... 1 N 1,287  odds chance on those particular days...at the very least. Perhaps I could say .....at the very most. On those particular days... Muti of 3 group draw days that hit during the year.  On those days....I will know for sure.... I was no further away than 1287 numbers form winning the entire thing. My number could even be .....the winner !   

                   "The more we can lower the ODDS on certain days....the better chance we have to get closer to a win. " 

                   

                                                                                                Patriot

                   

                     You know ofcourse .....someone's gonna' make a System out of this entire thing and sell it?  LOL  

                  If you knew what the arithmetic relationships between the individual numbers were going to be on any given day, it would be relatively easy to win, whether or not they were all multiples of 3. That is the delta system.

                  In neo-conned Amerika, bank robs you.
                  Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be the name of a convenience store, not a govnoment agency.

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                    If you knew what the arithmetic relationships between the individual numbers were going to be on any given day, it would be relatively easy to win, whether or not they were all multiples of 3. That is the delta system.

                          Playing everyday......or gambling that your group will hit on a specific day ....or any given day. If you always play the same numbers form the same group your gonna' be right ...."on those days" At least your be closer than most of the other people that don't play that way or use MIXED numbers.

                     

                       RJOH ... I must have mis-read your info..  thought you were saying the group ....Multibles of 3 group ....only had 13 numbers .....which has 1297 combinations out of the total of 575,757                 

                     

                     

                    The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                  Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                  Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                           Win d    

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                            Playing everyday......or gambling that your group will hit on a specific day ....or any given day. If you always play the same numbers form the same group your gonna' be right ...."on those days" At least your be closer than most of the other people that don't play that way or use MIXED numbers.

                       

                         RJOH ... I must have mis-read your info..  thought you were saying the group ....Multibles of 3 group ....only had 13 numbers .....which has 1297 combinations out of the total of 575,757                 

                       Sorry ....ment to say I must have been thinking 12,ooo instead of closer to 1,200.  I thought we were talking about a similar group to the ODD / Even groups or something ...

                       In that case .....we would average a hit every 444 days !  I like the hit rate of all ODD/EVEN groups better ..... maybe I could stay awake for those. 

                                                         Odds don't really change .....but probability does.  

                       

                           In the future .... playing All Odd/Even combinations only.... several times during the year our chances will be a lot better on those specific Odd/Even days ....of a good chance win !  After the fact of the draw we will know what our chances were on that particular kind of day.... or similar days in the future.

                                On those particular days ....that will come up ..... the combination will come from a pool of numbers that is about 95% smaller than other mixed number days.   How was that..?  LOL   

                       

                       

                      The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                    Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                    Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                             Win d    

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                        WIN D on to something?

                        Thinking of...

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                          WIN D on to something?

                          Thinking of...

                          He just might be.

                          Ohio Rolling Cash5
                           08/04/08   03 11 15 23 39
                           06/23/08   07 33 35 37 39
                           06/14/08   05 07 21 33 35
                           04/03/08   13 19 31 33 37
                           03/30/08   03 07 15 23 35
                           01/27/08   11 17 23 27 33
                           12/16/07   01 07 13 15 21
                           11/30/07   01 07 15 25 27
                           10/30/07   05 07 21 31 39
                           10/03/07   05 09 13 17 37
                           09/21/07   09 13 31 33 39
                           09/14/07   05 13 17 21 27
                           09/08/07   07 15 21 29 39
                           08/12/07   01 07 09 13 33
                           08/05/07   05 09 31 35 39
                           06/03/07   05 13 25 27 33
                           05/25/07   05 07 23 33 35
                           03/28/07   05 11 25 31 37
                           01/05/07   11 15 19 21 23
                           01/04/07   01 07 21 27 29

                           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                             
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                            I can get closer to a win doing just all ODD/Evens

                            What the heck does this mean?  I've gotten 4 out of 5 in Fantasy-5 (Florida) 6 times since Aug 07 and close doesn't count.  You either win about $80-$100 bucks or you win the whole enchilada.  There is no "close." 

                            Wow! does the fantasy-5 in FL pay THAT little for 4 out of 5 ??? $80 to $100 ??? NY Take 5 pays $300-$900 depending on how many winners at that level.  And it yes after $600 you have to pay taxes on the win !! 

                            Money won is twice as good as money earned!

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                               WoW !  Thanks for the update  Time*Treat ......  on that ALL ODD hit.  Coffee

                               Funny ......ALL ODD Draw ....on an all EVEN date  8/04/08 .    LOL   

                               RJOH ..... could you print out the last few ALL EVEN hits for OH ?      Just curious about something.

                               

                               

                              The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                            Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                            Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                                     Win d