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When MegaMillions (the only game I play) gets up to the 9-digit range then someone wins it. Using what I view an "unorthodox" drawing combination too.

It's back to the $12 million base but still, I alway get bummed when someone wins the jackpot. It's like you wait and wait and as long as nobody else wins it, it's ok for me to lose.

Also, has someone noticed the annoying tendency for the JPs to be picked in Georgia? Far disproportionate to their population. And the drawing is in Georgia...

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    I get a bit bummed out too though I had a feeling, even before I saw the numbers that it would be won. I don't think Georgia wins all that frequently, there was the 270M winner back in February and now this last one, but that was over six months apart. Nothing like the craziness of Ohio having three jackpot winners in a row back in early 2006 where two of those three winners were of jackpots in the 260-270 range while the other was a base JP, all three were claimed as part of a Trust interestingly enough. So far this year Georgia and Michigan have had two winners, there might be another state too but those two are just off the top of my head.

    You can't predict random.

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      2007 MM & PB

       

      43 lottery States  5+15+0  Jackpot  5+0  Total
      name  HitsHits  $$$  $$$  $$$
      * New Jersey2.2553$371,000,000  $13,250,000  $384,250,000
      * Texas2.2555$330,500,000  $13,750,000  $344,250,000
      Indiana123$314,000,000  $4,600,000  $318,600,000
      Missouri125$254,000,000  $5,000,000  $259,000,000
      * Georgia0.553$195,000,000  $13,250,000  $208,250,000
      New York2111$180,000,000  $27,750,000  $207,750,000
      California2117$172,000,000  $29,250,000  $201,250,000
      Oregon118$183,000,000  $3,600,000  $186,600,000
      Rhode Island111$155,000,000  $2,200,000  $157,200,000
      * Virginia1.2541$126,500,000  $10,250,000  $136,750,000
      * Maryland1.2520$108,500,000  $5,000,000  $113,500,000
      Oklahoma123$105,800,000  $4,600,000  $110,400,000
      Kentucky218$94,000,000  $3,600,000  $97,600,000
      *Illinois0.543$81,500,000  $10,750,000  $92,250,000
      Wisconsin222$70,000,000  $4,400,000  $74,400,000
      New Hampshire112$68,000,000  $2,400,000  $70,400,000
      New Mexico116$63,000,000  $3,200,000  $66,200,000
      Colorado120$20,000,000  $4,000,000  $24,000,000
      Arizona136$15,000,000  $7,200,000  $22,200,000
      Louisana130$15,000,000  $6,000,000  $21,000,000
      S. Carolina125$15,000,000  $5,000,000  $20,000,000
      Connecticut117$15,000,000  $3,400,000  $18,400,000
      Pennsylvania-80$0  $16,000,000  $16,000,000
      Michigan-52$0  $13,000,000  $13,000,000
      Ohio-51$0  $12,750,000  $12,750,000
      N. Carolina-57$0  $11,400,000  $11,400,000
      Massachusetts-33$0  $8,250,000  $8,250,000
      Tennessee-32$0  $6,400,000  $6,400,000
      Minnesota-25$0  $5,000,000  $5,000,000
      Washington-17$0  $4,250,000  $4,250,000
      Iowa-17$0  $3,400,000  $3,400,000
      Nebraska-11$0  $2,200,000  $2,200,000
      Kansas  -11$0  $2,200,000  $2,200,000
      Idaho-9$0  $1,800,000  $1,800,000
      West Virginia-8$0  $1,600,000  $1,600,000
      Delaware-7$0  $1,400,000  $1,400,000
      Maine-5$0  $1,000,000  $1,000,000
      Washington DC-5$0  $1,000,000  $1,000,000
      Montana-5$0  $1,000,000  $1,000,000
      S Dakota-4$0  $800,000  $800,000
      Vermont-3$0  $600,000  $600,000
      N Dakota-2$0  $400,000  $400,000
      US Virgin Island---  -  -
                         
      totals  281223  $2,951,800,000  $276,900,000  $3,228,700,000
      avg per draw  0.15.9

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        2008 MM & PB to date

         

          43 lottery States  5+15+0  Jackpot  5+0  Total
          name  HitsHits  $$$  $$$  $$$
          Georgia235$405,000,000  $8,750,000  $413,750,000
          West Virginia19$275,000,000  $1,800,000  $276,800,000
          Ohio128$196,000,000  $7,000,000  $203,000,000
          Michigan231$191,000,000  $7,750,000  $198,750,000
          Minnesota114$180,000,000  $2,800,000  $182,800,000
          New Jersey162$125,000,000  $15,500,000  $140,500,000
          Louisana225$128,000,000  $5,000,000  $133,000,000
          Pennsylvania158$86,000,000  $11,600,000  $97,600,000
          Oklahoma120$85,000,000  $4,000,000  $89,000,000
          Texas147$33,000,000  $11,750,000  $44,750,000
          S. Carolina123$35,000,000  $4,600,000  $39,600,000
          * New York0.577$8,500,000  $19,250,000  $27,750,000
          * Illinois0.539$8,500,000  $9,750,000  $18,250,000
          California-(parmutl)-77$0  $14,985,562  $14,985,562
          Virginia-38$0  $9,500,000  $9,500,000
          N. Carolina-34$0  $6,800,000  $6,800,000
          Massachusetts-25$0  $6,250,000  $6,250,000
          Maryland-23$0  $5,750,000  $5,750,000
          Missouri-27$0  $5,400,000  $5,400,000
          Indiana-21$0  $4,200,000  $4,200,000
          Kentucky-19$0  $3,800,000  $3,800,000
          Arizona-18$0  $3,600,000  $3,600,000
          Tennessee-15$0  $3,000,000  $3,000,000
          Washington-12$0  $3,000,000  $3,000,000
          Colorado-14$0  $2,800,000  $2,800,000
          Rhode Island-12$0  $2,400,000  $2,400,000
          Wisconsin-12$0  $2,400,000  $2,400,000
          Connecticut-12$0  $2,400,000  $2,400,000
          New Hampshire-11$0  $2,200,000  $2,200,000
          Oregon-11$0  $2,200,000  $2,200,000
          Iowa-10$0  $2,000,000  $2,000,000
          Idaho-9$0  $1,800,000  $1,800,000
          Nebraska-8$0  $1,600,000  $1,600,000
          Washington DC-8$0  $1,600,000  $1,600,000
          New Mexico-8$0  $1,600,000  $1,600,000
          Delaware-5$0  $1,000,000  $1,000,000
          Maine-5$0  $1,000,000  $1,000,000
          Kansas  -4$0  $800,000  $800,000
          Montana-3$0  $600,000  $600,000
          N Dakota-3$0  $600,000  $600,000
          Vermont-2$0  $400,000  $400,000
          S Dakota-2$0  $400,000  $400,000
          US Virgin Island-0$0  $0  $0
                     
          totals  15916  $1,756,000,000  $203,635,562  $1,959,635,562
          avg per draw  0.16.5
         
          *= split jackpot 
         
         
          43 lottery States  5+15+0  Jackpot  5+0  Total
          name  HitsHits  $$$  $$$  $$$
          Mega Million  8494  $967,000,000  $119,235,562  $1,086,235,562
          Power Ball  7422  $789,000,000  $84,400,000  $873,400,000
          Totals 2008 to date    15916  $1,756,000,000  $203,635,562  $1,959,635,562
          totals 2007 finish  281223  $2,951,800,000  $276,900,000  $3,228,700,000

        "Everybody has to believe in something...I believe I'll have another beer!"   = W.C.Fields                      

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          Yep, I feel the same way,,,Once you get into the 9 digit jackpots, its like a sense of urgency to win, because you know its going to hit.  Although I don't feel bad when it gets hit, I know another run is coming. 

          "Everybody has to believe in something...I believe I'll have another beer!"   = W.C.Fields                      

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            Just goes to show you how difficult it is to hit that thing, especially since the volume of dollars generated in New York is in great disproportion to the number of  NY winning tickets. Obviously the quick pick generators are more effective in the smaller states.

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              The only  two times I came close to being bummed out was when I had all six winning numbers on a $5 ticket and the best I could do was match 3+1 and 2+0 for $150 and match 2+1 and 3+0 for $17 but I was happy to just win anything at all. 

              I was using a system that uses a pool of 25 numbers for the core combinations and a pool of 10 numbers for the bonus numbers.  The odds of all six winning numbers being in those pools are about 1:600 and I did it twice in one year.  I always thought if I ever got that close I would get a 4+0 or better with 10 lines since I had done as well with less of the winning numbers in the pool.

              It just showed me that I still got to be lucky even when things seems to be going the way I hoped.  I've since enlarged my pools of numbers and I'm depending more on getting lucky.   

               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                 
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                When MegaMillions (the only game I play) gets up to the 9-digit range then someone wins it. Using what I view an "unorthodox" drawing combination too.

                It's back to the $12 million base but still, I alway get bummed when someone wins the jackpot. It's like you wait and wait and as long as nobody else wins it, it's ok for me to lose.

                Also, has someone noticed the annoying tendency for the JPs to be picked in Georgia? Far disproportionate to their population. And the drawing is in Georgia...

                I Agree!>>>>>>>>JHLTT:

                Even tho PSYKO can read tea leafs>>coffee grounds>>card decks>> and

                BUMP's on the GULL's emphange>>>PSYKO alway's LO$E$ his BUTT>>>

                when it cums to the BIG JACKPOT'$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

                LOL

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                  When MegaMillions (the only game I play) gets up to the 9-digit range then someone wins it. Using what I view an "unorthodox" drawing combination too.

                  It's back to the $12 million base but still, I alway get bummed when someone wins the jackpot. It's like you wait and wait and as long as nobody else wins it, it's ok for me to lose.

                  Also, has someone noticed the annoying tendency for the JPs to be picked in Georgia? Far disproportionate to their population. And the drawing is in Georgia...

                  Sounds to me like you are 'expecting' to win the JP.

                  You should consider another game before you go broke.   Tennis maybe ?

                  What is 'unorthodox' to YOU is perfectly within reason to someone else: it comes back to charting, and you will see the 'unorthodox' combos that hit DO hit from time-to-time, and sometimes you must plan for it, a few of your games, anyway.

                  Anymore, I play 6 games per drawing, and either all 6 will be what *I* consider to be 'normal' choices based on my own theories, sometimes I go off the deep end and play 2 or 3 games somewhat the opposite of what I 'should'.  So far, it has not panned out.

                  I don't 'expect' to win - BUT - you cannot win if you do not play.

                  Wayne Gretzky said 'you miss 100% of the shots you don't take'.

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                    Sounds to me like you are 'expecting' to win the JP.

                    You should consider another game before you go broke.   Tennis maybe ?

                    What is 'unorthodox' to YOU is perfectly within reason to someone else: it comes back to charting, and you will see the 'unorthodox' combos that hit DO hit from time-to-time, and sometimes you must plan for it, a few of your games, anyway.

                    Anymore, I play 6 games per drawing, and either all 6 will be what *I* consider to be 'normal' choices based on my own theories, sometimes I go off the deep end and play 2 or 3 games somewhat the opposite of what I 'should'.  So far, it has not panned out.

                    I don't 'expect' to win - BUT - you cannot win if you do not play.

                    Wayne Gretzky said 'you miss 100% of the shots you don't take'.

                    I don't think I need to switch to tennis. My expectations are set into force by the fact that I break even playing the lottery. My numbers, (if you want to call them charted, go ahead, it's a great deal more complicated than that) are picked for a reason, and as a result my picks pay for themselves. I defy you to match that. If you can, great. Other than that, thanks for the suggestion, but I'll keep playing.


                    BTW I spend $10 a week on MegaMillions (which is the only form of gambling I engage in), hardly a dent in my salary.

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                      I don't think I need to switch to tennis. My expectations are set into force by the fact that I break even playing the lottery. My numbers, (if you want to call them charted, go ahead, it's a great deal more complicated than that) are picked for a reason, and as a result my picks pay for themselves. I defy you to match that. If you can, great. Other than that, thanks for the suggestion, but I'll keep playing.


                      BTW I spend $10 a week on MegaMillions (which is the only form of gambling I engage in), hardly a dent in my salary.

                      I'll be damned! If I'm reading what you have said correctly, You're saying that you break even playing the lottery spending only $10 dollars a week. "DAMN" That's one hell of a system you have there and I salute you.... But on the other hand that is one big huge claim too..... Hmmm how can we get this out in the light for all to see if your claim is true or if it's nothing more than a bunch of hot air escaping a lower body orifice (that may have just overloaded your mouth).

                      "I got it" Jimhowlett, you can start posting your numbers in Maddogs MM challenge and that will tell us all if your the real deal or nothing more than another person with claims they can't back up! You Game? And if not..... it just means you're nothing more than a blow hard like all the others before you, making the same claims that you are making!

                      Now remember you're the one who made the claim above Jimhowlett. So don't even think about jumping on me for calling you out on it, lets see some action by you to prove your BOLD claim (and I quote) "my picks pay for themselves" (unquote).

                      I'm going to be one BOLD S.O.B. and make a prediction here..... Jimhowlett is going to jump all in my a** for calling him on his claim and proceed to show us all he's exactly like all the others before him (all talk, no action) another words "A Freaking BLOW HARD!"   

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                        I'll be damned! If I'm reading what you have said correctly, You're saying that you break even playing the lottery spending only $10 dollars a week. "DAMN" That's one hell of a system you have there and I salute you.... But on the other hand that is one big huge claim too..... Hmmm how can we get this out in the light for all to see if your claim is true or if it's nothing more than a bunch of hot air escaping a lower body orifice (that may have just overloaded your mouth).

                        "I got it" Jimhowlett, you can start posting your numbers in Maddogs MM challenge and that will tell us all if your the real deal or nothing more than another person with claims they can't back up! You Game? And if not..... it just means you're nothing more than a blow hard like all the others before you, making the same claims that you are making!

                        Now remember you're the one who made the claim above Jimhowlett. So don't even think about jumping on me for calling you out on it, lets see some action by you to prove your BOLD claim (and I quote) "my picks pay for themselves" (unquote).

                        I'm going to be one BOLD S.O.B. and make a prediction here..... Jimhowlett is going to jump all in my a** for calling him on his claim and proceed to show us all he's exactly like all the others before him (all talk, no action) another words "A Freaking BLOW HARD!"   

                        Not at all. In fact, that post was in answer to Guesser, who for some reason unknown to me, comes across as condescending and nigh-omnescient. He also brought up "research" without posting the facts.

                        As for Maddogs' MM challenge, I already won once and hit 2+0 (almost made it) twice I believe (I've only played a few times so far (missed last week's).

                        Also, the Challenge is not necessarily a good indicator of how much players win. When I hit the 2+1 on my very first play, I actually hit 3+1 in real life (the difference is $140). The point? I spend $10 a week and in the process pick a total of 60 numbers, about only five which are picked twice. The secret is in the MegaBall. I don't believe it's the hardest to pick. I sometimes only pick five different MegaBalls over two drawings over the week, and if the one drawn is one that was picked twice that's $4 right there, not including any WBs matched; and the picks are a product of my system. Mostly, I pick 8 different MBs.

                        As a final note, breaking even in the lottery isn't hard especially once you hit the pattern of the MegaBall. Keep in mind winning $150 on one drawing then failing to win anything the next several weeks is still breaking even. Although I get 0+1 and 1+1 far more often.

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                          Not at all. In fact, that post was in answer to Guesser, who for some reason unknown to me, comes across as condescending and nigh-omnescient. He also brought up "research" without posting the facts.

                          As for Maddogs' MM challenge, I already won once and hit 2+0 (almost made it) twice I believe (I've only played a few times so far (missed last week's).

                          Also, the Challenge is not necessarily a good indicator of how much players win. When I hit the 2+1 on my very first play, I actually hit 3+1 in real life (the difference is $140). The point? I spend $10 a week and in the process pick a total of 60 numbers, about only five which are picked twice. The secret is in the MegaBall. I don't believe it's the hardest to pick. I sometimes only pick five different MegaBalls over two drawings over the week, and if the one drawn is one that was picked twice that's $4 right there, not including any WBs matched; and the picks are a product of my system. Mostly, I pick 8 different MBs.

                          As a final note, breaking even in the lottery isn't hard especially once you hit the pattern of the MegaBall. Keep in mind winning $150 on one drawing then failing to win anything the next several weeks is still breaking even. Although I get 0+1 and 1+1 far more often.

                          I don't see it that way.... The game is the game and each game is of it's self. Each game/draw is it's own! It doesn't carry over! OK you made 150 on a drawing.... that's just it you made the money on that one drawing! Yes you now have a bank roll to keep playing, but it's still a whole another game/drawing.. each time the numbers are to be drawn..... So each game/drawing is it's own game at the time of said game/drawing! I will not argue you won or you didn't.... if you caught 3+1 for 150 good for you. But now the next game/drawing is a whole another game/drawing and your back to square one... bet 5.00 dollars on that game/drawing and beat the odds and come out ahead again! Like you said (and I quote) "my picks pay for themselves" (unquote) and took it that they do that each and every week! I only went by what I read and the way it was stated, nothing more...... 

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                            I don't see it that way.... The game is the game and each game is of it's self. Each game/draw is it's own! It doesn't carry over! OK you made 150 on a drawing.... that's just it you made the money on that one drawing! Yes you now have a bank roll to keep playing, but it's still a whole another game/drawing.. each time the numbers are to be drawn..... So each game/drawing is it's own game at the time of said game/drawing! I will not argue you won or you didn't.... if you caught 3+1 for 150 good for you. But now the next game/drawing is a whole another game/drawing and your back to square one... bet 5.00 dollars on that game/drawing and beat the odds and come out ahead again! Like you said (and I quote) "my picks pay for themselves" (unquote) and took it that they do that each and every week! I only went by what I read and the way it was stated, nothing more...... 

                            I agree that every drawing is a drawing unto itself and has no bearing on the drawing before or after it. But probability does not work that way.

                            Consider this:

                            You flip a coin (and providing there are no crazy variables like variable air pressure, uneven weight to the coin, etc...in other words, all factors being equal) four times. Each time it is tails. Now, all factors being equal, there is a 50/50 chance it will land on tails each flip. And if you made an infinite number of flips, exactly half the time it would be tails. But in any number N not infinite (that is N=finite) the number of hits on tails will be 50% plus or minus X% points (the more flips, that is the bigger the sample pool, the closer the +/- gets to exactly 50%, asymptotically).

                            But I digress.

                            So you flip four times, and each time it lands on tails. Now on the fifth flip. what are the chances it will be heads? The answer is 50% because previous flips have no bearing on it. In other words, on just that flip, the odds remain the same. But take the whole sample (the 4 previous flips, plus the impending fifth flip) the Law of Averages is tidally pulling for a "heads" result. What are you going to bet on? Remember, strung out on any sized sample, the Law of Averages states the results must approach 50% +/- a certain percentage point (based on the size of the sampling pool) meaning the best bet is heads for the fifth flip.

                            Of course the MegaMillions drawing is a bit more complicated. For starters, imagine a 56-sided coin, then a 55-sided coin for the next toss, then a 54 sided coin, etc.

                            This is just one of the many fundamental factors to be overcome when playing this game. Of course it can't be overcome in the traditional sense, but you can get closer and closer to it (asymptotically, of course) every time the sample increases, that is, after every drawing.

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                              Yeah, yeah, yada, yada, yada, that's all good and it's old hat to boot..... hell everyone knows what you said... I'm talking about the fact each draw is one unto it's self and you making the statement that you break even each and every draw! Lets go on that FACT ONLY, your statement! And I will quote it one more time (since you seem to have forgotten it) "my picks pay for themselves" (unquote). Show us all here on LP that your statement holds true, otherwise forget it and then we will all know that your nothing more than a blow hard like all of the others before you that have made that same statement here on the LP!

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