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What Would You do If You Knew The Lotteries were Cheating and You Could Prove It?

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What would you do if you knew the lotteries were cheating the public

Sceam it out Loud from the Highest Mountain Top [ 25 ]  [55.56%]
Do Nothing at All? [ 7 ]  [15.56%]
Would You be afraid of Retaliation [ 0 ]  [0.00%]
What if programs helped by lottery were lost [ 0 ]  [0.00%]
Would you ask for Refund for all tickets Bought [ 7 ]  [15.56%]
They come out and say ..'We didnt Know' [ 6 ]  [13.33%]
Total Valid Votes [ 45 ]  
Discarded Votes [ 9 ]  
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Posted: September 5, 2008, 6:50 pm - IP Logged

I wish this site had video capabilities and I actually had a video camera BECAUSE I WOULD show you and everyone that this is A   FALSE STATEMENT...no offense intended...

 

YOU AND EVERYONE would be SIMPLY AMAZED to see what I could show you and everyone else..

 

 

REMEMBER THIS..THIS IS VERY VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!

what they do..and they do it intentionally..is TO CHANGE THE FUTURE...among a few other things as well

Oh, I'm not offended.

I just take it as a difference of opinion, as my comment wasn't based on "theory", but on actual results from different games and several years worth of data.

If your results show something else, then that's what you have to go by.

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    Posted: September 5, 2008, 7:05 pm - IP Logged

    Front and back pair are not pick2 they may seem that way nor is 2by2 a pick2...Anyways i wasn't reffering to a permutation pick2 i was refering to a combination pick2 and even if i was refering to a permutation pick2 i was referring to a game that should cost if you look at the payouts of pick4 and pick3 each according/respectively this pick2 should cost 25 cents and pay a straight payout of 50 dollars...And yes i was also refering to a Pick2 stand alone...

    In Pick3 1 dollar can give you 500 dollars, so 1 dollar is what percent of 500? exactly 0.2%....

    what is 25 cents (0.25) percent of 50 dollars? Exactly 0.5% which i think is fair considering that it should be 125 dollars that should be the payout for pick2 because 0.25 is 0.2% of 125 dollars...

    And 1 dollar of 50 is 2% without any dot, so it will be too much...

    Again the lottery thinks of itself as smart and say they research their games before starting them, but they don't something i've said for a long time, because they should have known this...They just say, ohh today we are going to start a game (without researching it) and they say oh we are also going to add to it 10 balls without its implication...Like how i said, they don't research their games and think of the consequences...

    I am putting this in my blog because i want the whole world to see it...

    Definition of pick2: lottery game where 2 balls are drawn, not 3, from a selected range...The name says it "Pick2, in other words Select 2" not 3...And once you select a pick2, there is a permutation pick2 and a combination pick2 and of course the hybrids but that's another story...There is 2 types of everything if there is a pick6 then there is a permutation pick6 and a combination pick6...What you commonly play is a combination pick6....

    The Forex trades: 1.6 Trillion dollars EVERY day, that´s more than the GDP of the Carribbean Central America, COMBINED. Enough to feed every crook out there for centuries...To all Geniuses & Powers Countries of the World the Planet needs breakthroughs in all Medicine, Veterinary, Biology related fields, Psychology, Population Psychology/Sociology..They need to genetically ingeneer new plants species/types to give more variety of plants and thus have more resources for combating diseases¨


     


     


     

     



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      Posted: September 5, 2008, 9:36 pm - IP Logged

      Just because you don't see a need for it doesn't make it cheating. Even if we can prove that there's absolutely no reason to do pre-tests or change machines, it still isn't cheating. None of that does a single thing to change the odds, much less slant them in the favor of the lotteries.

      You may not understand it, but it's really very simple. They're going to have an unknown number of drawings, and only one of them is going to count. As long as we know ahead of time which drawing will count, and we do know that, there's absolutely no problem with it.

      You may have no problem with it, but I do. Very simple.

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        Posted: September 5, 2008, 10:58 pm - IP Logged

        i discarded, it would depend on if i could exploit the cheat. like if the was some way share the jackpot with the cheaters.

        id win enough to retire on, then retire, then publish memoirs,

         

        "memoirs of a lotto cheat"

        and as long as the cheat continued, i might inform a favored nephew or neice. to pass on the family business.

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          Posted: September 6, 2008, 3:01 pm - IP Logged

          I'd act like I didn't know because with the risk of the state losing that much income...there is NO question you'd be killed...

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            Posted: September 6, 2008, 3:18 pm - IP Logged

            Just out of Curiosity..what would you do If you could prove that the Lotteries were cheating the Public on Every draw..what would you do?

            Nothing at all.  Like some of the others, I would reverse engineer it so I would win more.  IMO that is the only logical thing to do.  It is a business like everything else.  They are entitled to their own tactics to stay on top.  Besides, have you ever been to a casino and actually believed that the tables weren't rigged to keep the house rolling in it?

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              Posted: September 6, 2008, 8:08 pm - IP Logged

              I'd act like I didn't know because with the risk of the state losing that much income...there is NO question you'd be killed...

              you are right you probably be killed...I am affraid that the State Lottery is above the law..

              For losing 1 billion dollars the state Lottery will kill you...Anyways let them continue the way they are, it just prove the Bible was right...It just proves that the state has never cared about the Poor...

              The rich can enjoy their stock market and the poor suck it up with Powerball...

              And you know what this is called? Is called "OPRESSION"...And you know how the poor reacts to it? by violent means...

              The Forex trades: 1.6 Trillion dollars EVERY day, that´s more than the GDP of the Carribbean Central America, COMBINED. Enough to feed every crook out there for centuries...To all Geniuses & Powers Countries of the World the Planet needs breakthroughs in all Medicine, Veterinary, Biology related fields, Psychology, Population Psychology/Sociology..They need to genetically ingeneer new plants species/types to give more variety of plants and thus have more resources for combating diseases¨


               


               


               

               


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                Posted: September 6, 2008, 9:31 pm - IP Logged

                I'd go to FOX 5 News with whatever evidence I had. I've been quoted on there before so I have no doubt they'd be interested! Of course that evidence had better be very good so as not to falsely accuse them, that is key!

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                  Posted: September 8, 2008, 8:41 pm - IP Logged

                  I doubt if anyone other than an insider could ever prove the lotteries were cheating the public and in that case they would be part of the problem.

                  BUTT what is the PROBLEM 2 this ????????????

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                    Posted: September 30, 2008, 8:04 pm - IP Logged

                    This is going nowhere if you think lottery is fixed, don't play. As long as it's legislated into law it will continue.  911 couldn't even stop it.

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                      Posted: October 2, 2008, 12:35 am - IP Logged

                      I discarded my vote as lotteries do not cheat.  I have sat in on many lottery draws and know that nothing but random chance alone determines the winning numbers.   As you know the odds of winning the combination(s) exactly is astronomical ... even lottery draws coordinators play the games and lose. 

                      "Together We're Making Good Things Happen,  Ontario's Lotteries...WE ALL WIN"

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                        Posted: October 2, 2008, 1:28 pm - IP Logged

                        you are right you probably be killed...I am affraid that the State Lottery is above the law..

                        For losing 1 billion dollars the state Lottery will kill you...Anyways let them continue the way they are, it just prove the Bible was right...It just proves that the state has never cared about the Poor...

                        The rich can enjoy their stock market and the poor suck it up with Powerball...

                        And you know what this is called? Is called "OPRESSION"...And you know how the poor reacts to it? by violent means...

                        I Agree! Just look at the smart people at the stock market 2day. What don't come out in the wash will come out in the rinse and all good things must come to an end. For any 1, 2 really believe that in some states the lottery isn't rigged needs 2 come back 2 the world of reality. Reality is that you would b crazy not 2 play every now and again just 2 try your luck but I would advise anyone not 2 play heavily if they have not done their research on whatever state lottery they decide 2 play. Can anyone explain 2 me a few yrs after 911, 911 fell in NY on the what I think 2 B the 2nd Anniversary. I mean come on people who don't believe that any lottery isn't rigged. I'm not going to say all state's and that they do it all the time.  I know that MI is and we still had balls last I knew and 2 top it off untelevised. I mean how much more proof do u need outside of a 6 may turn in2 a 9 or a 2 may turn into a 5. I watch all the little rigged mind games that they play. In and outside the mirrior. LOL I do know that there is a saying "You never know where the balls may fall" but here in MI they sure do. LOL.

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                          Posted: October 2, 2008, 4:49 pm - IP Logged

                          I'd wait until there was a good jackpot then win the lottery using the method I discovered they were using. I'd then start singing like a canary!Guitar oh, and I'd sue for all the money I have pee'd away  over the years in good faith.

                          "Depend on the rabbit's foot if you will, but remember it didn't work for the rabbit." - R. E. Shay.

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                            Posted: October 12, 2008, 8:36 pm - IP Logged

                            The lottery really doesn't need to cheat, they actually go out of thier way to make sure its ligitimate, but there will always be a contingent of folks who believe otherwise. i c numbers mentioned that 911 was drawn on the second anniversary of 911. Why would NY lottery want to pay out the maximum liability of 5 million? If the lottery were "rigged" wouldn't they try to post a different result so they wouldn't pay the 5 million?? All this paranoia about the lottery being rigged is ridiculous- Do you really think that mega million with odds of winning the jackpot over 140 million to one needs to be fixed?? Just do the math if in a 60 million jackpot drawing they take in well over 60 million in cash, then they pay the winner the annuity value which is half of 60 million paid out over 26 years the money doubles for the lottery not the jackpot winner.Ironicially in these tough economic times the lottery is prospering!