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Why is keno so hard to win?

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hennybogan's avatar - DiscoBallGlowing
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Posted: October 24, 2008, 1:50 am - IP Logged

All numbers should show within approximately 16 to 21 games (statistical given).

One approach that can be successful is to request afrequency number ticket first for the last 15 or 16 games (meaning acomputerized ticket showing how frequently numbers have appeared in theprevious 15/16 games) then play the remaining sleeping numbers (usually3 to 5) with a negative progression for about six times (10 max). Wager each number as a King number (individual) with this 10 level negative progression:

1 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 5 - 8 - 12 - 18 - 27 - 41

Nothingfancy but usually (97%) all numbers come out in 20/21 trials butcandidly I really hate awaiting the outcomes on those heart poundingmushrooming progressions

SETTING LOSS LEVEL LIMITS-
Letssay you have 3 sleepers, you can play all 3 on one card, by circlingeach one they become a king and in effect its like playing 3 separatecards so the card costs $3 on the first level. In the past I usuallydon't chase more then 6 or 7 progressions which means that the numberhasn't appeared in 20 or 21 games (extreme but possible). Also byplaying say all 3 numbers together as well as individually you have astrong chance of 3 numbers coming in together. So separate numbers payout 3 to 1 but there are no real wagering table limits so the muchabused Martingale can go on its virtual death march unimpeded. Meantimeif 3 numbers hit together you collect both on the separate $3 each hits=$9 plus $42 for three out of three. Also say one number hits, then thenext play would be two numbers play with the possibility of a twonumber hit or either one individually. Additionally one could playadditional sleepers as they arrive up to 15/16 non-hits on a separatecards.

Trying to outrun the statistical extreme is alwayschallenging in any game but the sleepers seem to do better in keno ( Idon't have any supporting evidence) and there is no helpful housedealer interceding on the side of the casino treasury

  Ephesians 3:20


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    Posted: October 24, 2008, 1:07 pm - IP Logged

    FYI - the numbers behind the game.

    http://www.johnph77.com/math/kenocomp.html

    All common matrices covered - 20/90, 22/80, 20/70 and more.

    No ads, nothing to sell, for informational purposes only.

    Blessed Saint Leibowitz, keep 'em dreamin' down there..... 

    Next week's convention for Psychics and Prognosticators has been cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances.

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      Posted: October 24, 2008, 4:20 pm - IP Logged

      Heck, look at the Michigan nightly Keno.  The odds are listed as 2,546,000 to 1 or something close to that.  Very few people have won since Michigan switched the drawings from ball drawings to computer drawings.  Every winner,  who has sent a private message to me on LP,  won their top Michigan Keno prize back when actuall ball drawings were held.

      Thinking of...I Think I agree w/U & Vicko!o

      when electron's flow ball winning's gooeie!

      LOL

      PSYKOMO

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        Posted: October 24, 2008, 7:29 pm - IP Logged

        rolling with these Oct 24 2008, Ontario Keno

         

         

        6162148555667
        6162544535865
        6212544565865
        6485355586567
        16214853565865
        16254455586567
        21254448535556
        21254448535667
        481024375051
        481423243950
        481427424651
        482324394650
        4102327373942
        8102327373942
        10142337394651
        10142427424650
        14242737424650
        23242739425051
        24263133374464

        Yes Nod

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          Posted: October 26, 2008, 5:39 pm - IP Logged

          try these for Oct 26 2008

           

          4    13    21    53    52    67               
          6    11    23    51    54    65               
          47    65    68    1                       
          49    63    70    69                       
          6    14    21                           
          8    12    23                           
          70    12    13    18    40    52    59    63    64   
          2    10    15    16    42    50    61    61    66   
          17    36    55                           
          19    34    57                           
          1    11    23    27    30    34    36    45    49    54
          3    9    25    25    32    32    38    43    51    52
          47    51    60                           
          49    49    62                           
          70    3    2    11    19    51    50    65    65   
          2    1    4    9    21    49    52    63    67   
          70    5    10    22    48    52    51    66    69   
          2    3    12    20    50    50    53    64    1   
                                             
          1    11    14    17    41    51    60    62    65    = $2

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            Posted: October 28, 2008, 5:17 pm - IP Logged

            Rolling with these for Oct 28

             

            31    44                   
            33    42                   
            6    42    47    63           
            8    40    49    61           
            6    41                   
            8    39                   
            25    40    59               
            27    38    61               
            4    8    7    10    19    49    69
            6    6    9    8    21    47    1
            11    33    60               
            13    31    62               
                                   
            5    17    24    57    64       
            7    15    26    55    66       
            26    36    38    47    51       
            28    34    40    45    53       
            18    32    45    52           
            20    30    47    50           
            18    42    55               
            20    40    57               
            2    31    41    45    52       
            4    29    43    43    54       

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              Posted: October 28, 2008, 5:38 pm - IP Logged

              Rolling with these for Oct 28

               

              31    44                   
              33    42                   
              6    42    47    63           
              8    40    49    61           
              6    41                   
              8    39                   
              25    40    59               
              27    38    61               
              4    8    7    10    19    49    69
              6    6    9    8    21    47    1
              11    33    60               
              13    31    62               
                                     
              5    17    24    57    64       
              7    15    26    55    66       
              26    36    38    47    51       
              28    34    40    45    53       
              18    32    45    52           
              20    30    47    50           
              18    42    55               
              20    40    57               
              2    31    41    45    52       
              4    29    43    43    54       

              you been having any luck vick?

              "No matter how bad things may get, I'd like to thank my middle finger

              for always sticking up for me.."

               


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                Posted: October 29, 2008, 12:21 am - IP Logged

                not lately it seems Chair

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                  Posted: October 29, 2008, 2:15 am - IP Logged

                  i think you are on to something here, today i played about 12 games straight here in GA, i only pick 5 numbers because for me $400 is enough and i don't have to worry about going to the lottery office to pick the larger prizes or deal with taxes and you get the money instantly.

                  by about the 8th game i noticed that as soon as they post the cold numbers they start showing up in the next games so alternating using a couple of cold and a couple of hot and randomly picking a number that i see constantly showing up every other game or so i started finally hitting 3 numbers consistently but had to go back to work because i was on my lunch hour.

                   

                  i am going to follow up on this tomorrow, keno looks on the surface so easy to win but once you start playing

                  its so hard its frustrating.

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                    Posted: October 29, 2008, 3:15 am - IP Logged

                    one more thing that i constantly think when it comes to the large prize, how is it does anyone

                    know for the state lotteries to rig the video games so it maybe only allows a someone to pick say 10 numbers of of the 80 once every 4 months or so. i know its harder with the ball games to rig but it sure seems strange that so many play and no one came come up with 10 numbers in keno over such a long period of time.

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                      Posted: October 30, 2008, 1:04 am - IP Logged

                      i think you are on to something here, today i played about 12 games straight here in GA, i only pick 5 numbers because for me $400 is enough and i don't have to worry about going to the lottery office to pick the larger prizes or deal with taxes and you get the money instantly.

                      by about the 8th game i noticed that as soon as they post the cold numbers they start showing up in the next games so alternating using a couple of cold and a couple of hot and randomly picking a number that i see constantly showing up every other game or so i started finally hitting 3 numbers consistently but had to go back to work because i was on my lunch hour.

                       

                      i am going to follow up on this tomorrow, keno looks on the surface so easy to win but once you start playing

                      its so hard its frustrating.

                      5 numbers here is $800.

                      I avoid all COLD numbers, and only play HOT numbers sparingly.

                      If I watch 10 games, I generally pick the numbers that have hit between 3 and 6 times.

                      (COLD - a number that has not hit, or only hit once or twice in 10-12 games)

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                        Posted: October 31, 2008, 1:53 am - IP Logged

                        5 numbers here is $800.

                        I avoid all COLD numbers, and only play HOT numbers sparingly.

                        If I watch 10 games, I generally pick the numbers that have hit between 3 and 6 times.

                        (COLD - a number that has not hit, or only hit once or twice in 10-12 games)

                        Right. The term I use is Luke-Warm.  I find in many games/draws, these always make up the majority of winning numbers....as I'm sure many of you have found as well.

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                          Posted: October 31, 2008, 6:04 pm - IP Logged

                          let's see what can happen for Oct 31 - Bat

                           

                           

                          1721424552616264
                          151216204455
                          231927303132404148
                          2633496668
                          115760
                          164858
                          364344
                          172161
                          1932354855
                          17354361
                          54448
                          5444832
                          35364361304151
                          35364361
                          203544
                          532444648
                          163248
                          520364358
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                            Posted: October 31, 2008, 11:18 pm - IP Logged

                            The one thing Keno players MUST do but seldom do is - watch.

                            Don't play, just watch.

                            Keep track of about 10-12 games - OR - if you walk into a place that plays Keno, and if you can get the results of the last 10 or so games, look at them.    What you are watching for - what you are looking for - is combinations that you may think you want to play, but have recently hit. So you can avoid playing them.

                            This is so you don't walk in a place and play (for example) 3-4-31-59-71 - when it just hit two games ago. It's unlikely to hit again for a few days.

                            You can apply that to about any combination, I'm not crazy about playing any two sequential numbers together that hit recently, for example, such as 9-10, 22-23, 34-35, 66-67, you get my drift.  They DO recur - but the odds are not good enough for me.

                            After you have WATCHED or looked up info on the prior 10 games, THEN you play.  Unless you MUST play something you 'feel' when you walk in. Use your own judgement.

                            I also don't play too many games on one ticket.    Imagine if you have picked a 5-spot for 20 games, and on the second game 4 of your 5 numbers hit - the chances of all 5 hitting in the next 18 games is pretty low. I learned this the hard way.

                            That said, I WILL pick a 5-spot for 24 games if I am heading out the door, but that's a whole 'nuther issue.

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                              Posted: October 31, 2008, 11:45 pm - IP Logged

                              Do you mean the Keno that is played every 5 minutes or the PICK 10 in New York which is a daily game? Is the Keno game drawn naturally (ball machine) or computerized? Computerized games are extremely difficult to systemize unless their programming is flawed. The upside is due to such a huge matrix your system only needs a slight advantage to reach breakeven.