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Why is keno so hard to win?

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Posted: November 13, 2008, 8:45 pm - IP Logged

hi Vick..........i just read about this delta system......this system is actually counting spaces between draw numbers....for example......

if draw was.........1 4 6 11 12 25 27 34 ........delta of  these number will  be

                            3  2  5  1  13  2   7.............so u counting spaces between the numbers of the same draw......but what if u counting spaces between

two draws example..............1 draw..........1 4 6 11 12 25 27 34

                                             2 draw..........2 3 9 15 18 21 29 32

               so delta of these 2 draws..........1 5 3   4  6   4   2  ...................i wish i have more time and energy.......but still fighting the flu.....

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    Posted: November 14, 2008, 5:41 pm - IP Logged

    hi guesser.........in GH software u can track cold numbers.........at least in ON......u get max 3 numbers from the last 7 cold numbers....so as u said above people should try it first before they spent money........

    Why on earth anyone would need software to track cold numbers in Keno is beyond me.

    For the Keno I described, software will do you no better than just sitting there, tracking, and I have found that 'cold' one day means absolutely nothing the next day. Even 'cold' in a 2 hour span means nothing, as the ebb and flow of the game changes dynamics about every 60 games or so.

    I tested it yesterday: I tracks numbers for 90 minutes, then I left, and I came back 7 hours later: what was 'hot' when I was there at Noon was 'hot' when I came back later.    TODAY, I looked at all of yesterday's games, and sure enough, most of the 'hot' numbers that hit when I was there the first time cooled off, and then warmed up later, about an hour before I came back.     When I came back I played 5 Pick-4's 4x each and won $90 total.

    If I continue to do as well as I have with Pick-4's, I will drop playing Pick-5's, although if I would have played the one 'extra' number I had on my list, I would have hit one pick-5 and that's it. $200.  But I am hitting enough Pick-4's to cover a Pick-5, I like the odds better.

    The only 'system' I am adhering to right now is to AVOID combinations that have hit recently, other than that, about anything goes.  I am currently testing other theories, I will keep you posted.

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      Posted: November 14, 2008, 6:06 pm - IP Logged

      You folks that play ball-draw 20/80 or 20/70 keno, I want you to try something:  Sit and track EVERY game, put an 'X' by every number that hits, and when it gets down to 7 numbers that have NO hits, play some pick-4's using your own combos of those 7 numbers.  Tell me if your luck in doing that is as good as mine is.

      Beware - possibly 2-3 of those 7 numbers MAY continue to NOT get hit for another 5-6 games.   You need luck to help you pick combos of those 7 numbers.  1 or 2 MAY go another 8 games or so.

      PS - you CANNOT get down to just 4 numbers and play just those 4 - it won't work, or at least it has not here, in 2 months.

      hi guesser.........i was comenting on your post above..........i don't have to do it by hand......Gh software do this for u........

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        Posted: November 15, 2008, 1:27 am - IP Logged

        How on earth can GH software track it for you AND be worthy ?

        1) You still have to key it in, and I don't see folks taking the immense amout of time to key in data AND run it thru software AND be able to have 'results' before the next game, and that is VERY important.       My entire matrixes change EVERY game - numbers I want to match up - based on prior games. There is no real 'set' matrix, it always changes.  And what was 'hot' 3 days ago means nothing today, and vice verse' for cold numbers.  But you have to keep in mind we play a new game every 5 minutes. Lotsa games to watch, to track, to note tendencies in.

        2) Numbers go extremely hot and cold - or not.   Just like Powerball and Mega.

        Playing 'all hot because they are hot' doesn't work, and playing 'all cold because they are overdue' doesn't work.

        Now, if it was Powerball or Mega, where they draw twice a week - I MIGHT 'see it', but not for Keno..

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          Posted: November 15, 2008, 6:51 pm - IP Logged

          A good set of numbers should contain the usual criteria some hot digits repeating digits, a couple of cold digits, a few consecutive digits an even balance of even and odd numbers. Problem is the trends in this game are always shifting making it a basic crapshoot as to which way its gonna go. Tiancas observation of the number of skips between drawings looks interesting, but how do we apply that to finding the winning combination??

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            Posted: November 16, 2008, 2:20 am - IP Logged

            A good set of numbers should contain the usual criteria some hot digits repeating digits, a couple of cold digits, a few consecutive digits an even balance of even and odd numbers. Problem is the trends in this game are always shifting making it a basic crapshoot as to which way its gonna go. Tiancas observation of the number of skips between drawings looks interesting, but how do we apply that to finding the winning combination??

            Beats me...

            You are correct in your hypothesis in how to pick numbers, all I can say is: I use my 'research' to help develop theories on what NOT to play, combination-wise, but for the most part, those are no-brainers, ie if 52-53-54-55 just hit, you don't want to play 52-53-54-55 anytime soon.

            I do know one thing - I can develop a GREAT 'system' on what to pick looking at the results of the prior day - and that system is useless the following day, but that in itself helps me AVOID scenarios - whatever my system says to pick - I pick the opposite.   I'm still way ahead, I'm playing with 'house  money' for a long, long time.

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              Posted: November 16, 2008, 3:33 pm - IP Logged

              Although it does not narrow things down that much; you can always delete the numbers (20) that came out the prior day and always have enough (10) left over to win the jackpot.

              As said earlier, one of the only ways I have found to reduce the total universe to 40 numbers, guaranteed every day;  is to play all odd/even.

              Problem is, this approach requires a separate analysis procedure(I've not completely developed yet...anyone want to help/partner?).  I'm convinced that if I had, say....100 lines to play ($100) I would probably land a second or third place prize, which would more than pay for the plays.

              I've said it many times, I confident that many of the folks who are winning big consistently are also playing big as well.  In theory, I have no problem risking a larger amount if I know I worked hard (analyzing/strategizing) to play the numbers picked(vs. buying 100 quick picks and "hoping I get lucky")

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                Posted: November 16, 2008, 7:42 pm - IP Logged

                Nov 16 Ont Keno

                62    54    41    14                       
                40    70                               
                1    4    6    7    12    17    21    41    46    54
                1    7    12    25    31    43    54           
                4    6    17    21    41    46    62    64       
                1    7    12    41    54    62               
                4    6    17    21    41    46    62    64    54    14
                4    6    17    21    41    46    62    64    40    70
                1    7    12    25    31    43    54    41    62   
                62    54    41    14    40    70               
                62    54    41    14    1    7    12    25    31    43
                1    7    12    25    31    43    54    40    70   

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                  Posted: November 17, 2008, 4:28 pm - IP Logged

                  Hey guesser,   Question:

                     I've  been folling this thread for a minute,  ( I've been gone for a week or so)

                         uuummm,  when your at the keno parlor, or wherever,  and you watch the games, 

                    do you play that day, after 7 or 8 games?  or the next day?  and do you write down the numbers per play.

                             The only place to play keno around here is the casino's.

                    I do agree that you would have to sit, and watch for a bit,  before jumping right in.

                                                                                                   just wondering   

                                                                                         and good keno-ing  to ya.

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                    Posted: November 17, 2008, 6:48 pm - IP Logged

                    TOOOOOOOOOOOOO many number to pick  i never win.  I usually just get

                    a couple of easy picks.    Good Luck with that game.

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                      Posted: November 17, 2008, 7:43 pm - IP Logged

                      I remember watching one of those Vegas shows on TV, this guy installed the random number generator into the keno machines. He said he had a pretty good idea how they worked, and anyone could learn about it and use that knowlege to pick number patterns. Since he's not allowed to play any casino games, I remember him recommending picking patterns off the screen that contains three or four consecutive numbers on one line or the corners or a combination of both. That's what Im gonna do now. I'm going to make a grid of eight rows of ten, mark the results and compare the grids and look for repeating patterns.

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                        I remember watching one of those Vegas shows on TV, this guy installed the random number generator into the keno machines. He said he had a pretty good idea how they worked, and anyone could learn about it and use that knowlege to pick number patterns. Since he's not allowed to play any casino games, I remember him recommending picking patterns off the screen that contains three or four consecutive numbers on one line or the corners or a combination of both. That's what Im gonna do now. I'm going to make a grid of eight rows of ten, mark the results and compare the grids and look for repeating patterns.

                        This is one of the ways I am analyzing an odd/even approach.  For me it's eight rows of five (one set for odds .....and one for evens).

                        Patterns of three or four consecutive numbers on one line?  I can't recall if I have ever seen that in NY at least.

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                          Posted: November 18, 2008, 6:25 pm - IP Logged

                          I went to this bar/restaurant that my sister likes, and it has the computerized keno game. I thought I'll play a 3 spot for ten dollars for five games 78-79-80. Wouldnt you know it the sucker comes in and more than covers the check. But I just won't play computerized drawings. But I suspect paying attentio to the grid patterns is the way to go. Ironically Pick-10 is a mechanical drawing but since it's not televised we have to take thier word for it.

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                            Posted: November 18, 2008, 10:40 pm - IP Logged

                            Usually 13-16 of the numbers are below 56, we don't have it in Va but I do look at different Keno Drawing from different States and thats just one thing I noticed, Just trying for you Keno Players to get the upper Hand. Go ahead and Look at your State and see if this is true in your State Let me know if this is true or not. Hope you win

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                              Posted: November 19, 2008, 12:15 am - IP Logged

                              Hey guesser,   Question:

                                 I've  been folling this thread for a minute,  ( I've been gone for a week or so)

                                     uuummm,  when your at the keno parlor, or wherever,  and you watch the games, 

                                do you play that day, after 7 or 8 games?  or the next day?  and do you write down the numbers per play.

                                         The only place to play keno around here is the casino's.

                                I do agree that you would have to sit, and watch for a bit,  before jumping right in.

                                                                                                               just wondering   

                                                                                                     and good keno-ing  to ya.

                              I watch, then I play - most of the time, but not all of the time.  Some days I just don't 'feel' it, ya know what I mean Vern ?

                              One thing I have noticed is the patterns and the 'hot' numbers from the prior day don't 'work', but the ones from 2 days' prior SEEM to, patterns anyway.

                              I can tell you all the same thing I preached about Powerball - you may be better off developing a 'system' to help you ELIMINATE numerical choices as opposed to helping you make direct choices.