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Posted: November 2, 2008, 12:29 pm - IP Logged

Wheeled 3 colds ..2 hots  and 3 of the most recent base pairs posted by astr8today.Want to try for 2 draws

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    Posted: November 2, 2008, 12:31 pm - IP Logged

    Wheeled 3 colds ..2 hots  and 3 of the most recent base pairs posted by astr8today.Want to try for 2 draws

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    I goofed...I forgot you were from GA and I did NY by mistake.Worth a shot anyhow

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      Posted: November 2, 2008, 5:11 pm - IP Logged

      I goofed...I forgot you were from GA and I did NY by mistake.Worth a shot anyhow

      That's ok. This method works for GA really well. 70% of the time.

      I usually get free tickets from it, and 3 numbers, but have not gotten a 4 or even a jackpot hit yet. The base numbers are the ones I need to work on now.

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        Hi guys,

          I am kind of doing a similar workout with the Fantasy 5 here in FL. Last night, I got 3 out of 5 but I should have got 4 out of 5 as I had 4 numbers selected but the wheel I used didnt allow for that 4th number!  I won $10.50 for my 3 #'s instead of $129 for 4 digits. I used Gail Howard's Interactive 52225 Pick 5 wheel. I should have used the 3003 Pick 5 wheel.

           Have you guys tried wheeling your cold numbers with the hottest numbers ? That's what I did and had 4 numbers chosen correctly despite the wheeling error.

        Good luck on your system. I'll keep an eye out and see if I notice any patterns/trends in the FL Fantasy 5 here.

        Omniscient

        P.S. I've included the wheel I used as well as the other one I should have used (and will use from now on). Hope it helps.

        52225 wheel  http://www.smartluck.com/free-lotto-wheel-52225js.htm - no more than 3 of any particular number would be in wheel. (13 total #'s in this wheel to play)

        SYSTEM 52225
        (Times in Wheel)
        A-3
        B-3
        C-2
        D-2
        E-3
        F-3
        G-3
        H-3
        I-2
        J-3
        K-3
        L-2
        M-2
        N-3
        O-3
        P-2
        Q-3
        R-2
        S-2
        T-3
        U-2
        V-3
        W-3
        X-3
        Y-2

         

        Wheel 3003  http://www.smartluck.com/free-lotto-wheel-3003js.htm - As you can see, each number has been entered more times into the wheel giving you a better shot at a 4# win or 5. (10 total #'s in this wheel to play)

        SYSTEM 3003
        (Times in Wheel)
        A-4
        B-4
        C-6
        D-5
        E-5
        F-4
        G-5
        H-4
        I-4
        J-4
        K-5

         See full size image                                               

         Don't Play more, Play Smarter!

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          Posted: November 2, 2008, 8:55 pm - IP Logged

          10/29 results: 05 11 19 21 23


          Current cold numbers: 

          02     04     06     10     12     14     

          27     28     32     33     35     36

           

          Predictions for next draw (10/30):

          Cold (5/12):4 12 28 32 35

          Base (10/39): 03 08 09 16 17 18 20 21 26 34      

           

          odds: 1 in 3003

          08 - 09 - 16 - 21 - 35

          03 - 08 - 17 - 32 - 34

          09 - 12 - 16 -  18-  21

          03 - 04 - 21 - 26 - 34

          09 - 16 - 17 - 20 - 28

          Disclaimer:  The following represents only my views and not those of anyone else.  I may be right or I may be wrong.  They are still my views and not subject to alteration until more evidence is uncovered.

          STATEMENT:

          We need to dig a bit deeper.  What has been written so far is good and I certainly do not advocate throwing it away.  But we need to dig a bit deeper.

          Having identified Cold Numbers and Base Numbers, and developed a way of tracking the results using only two numbers, zero and one, what else can we do without destroying the concept?

          We could add the five winning numbers together and determine if the sum is odd or even.  Making another column in our spreadsheet to accomodate the new information, we could note the result with a zero if the sum is odd and a one if the result is even.

          If anyone, besides myself, is doing this, you will notice that you will soon have a series of ones and zeros.  What number system uses ones and zeros?  Binary of course.  Converting the binary to decimal, we get decimal numbers which allow us to manipulate with addition, subtraction, multiplication and/or division.

          Where this will lead us is anyone's guess at this point.  But let's try it and see what we get.  What have we to lose?  We are losing now so what would be different?

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            Disclaimer:  The following represents only my views and not those of anyone else.  I may be right or I may be wrong.  They are still my views and not subject to alteration until more evidence is uncovered.

            STATEMENT:

            We need to dig a bit deeper.  What has been written so far is good and I certainly do not advocate throwing it away.  But we need to dig a bit deeper.

            Having identified Cold Numbers and Base Numbers, and developed a way of tracking the results using only two numbers, zero and one, what else can we do without destroying the concept?

            We could add the five winning numbers together and determine if the sum is odd or even.  Making another column in our spreadsheet to accomodate the new information, we could note the result with a zero if the sum is odd and a one if the result is even.

            If anyone, besides myself, is doing this, you will notice that you will soon have a series of ones and zeros.  What number system uses ones and zeros?  Binary of course.  Converting the binary to decimal, we get decimal numbers which allow us to manipulate with addition, subtraction, multiplication and/or division.

            Where this will lead us is anyone's guess at this point.  But let's try it and see what we get.  What have we to lose?  We are losing now so what would be different?

            That's an interesting idea. With the sum being odd or even, represented by 0 and 1 how will be know how many selections goes into getting the odd or even sum? Are there a tool allowing us to see the amount of numbers adds up to 20 vs 40 sum?

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              Thanks Omniscient for the link. Yes, I've been wheeling the cold numbers with hot and mild numbers for the best results.

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                That's an interesting idea. With the sum being odd or even, represented by 0 and 1 how will be know how many selections goes into getting the odd or even sum? Are there a tool allowing us to see the amount of numbers adds up to 20 vs 40 sum?

                I think I see your confusion.   Allow me to elucidate.

                By tracking four (or more) patterns with either zero or one and then converting those two digits from left to right into decimal, we get a number.  Something like the following

                 

                Cold         Base         Odd/Even            Decimal

                   0              1                   1           =         3

                   1               1                   1          =         6

                   1               0                   1           =        4

                and so on.  Having gathered lots of these binary/decimal  numbers we can get a feel for what will come next or what will not come next.

                What this allows us to do is get above the numbers.  We don't care what the numbers might be.   All we care about is the resulting decimal number. 

                After collecting data for several draws we might see that no decimal number repeats.  Knowing this, we can eliminate all number sets that result in decimal number 3 or test a number set that we wish to play against the resulting decimal number of that set.  If the numbers we wish to play goes against what has historically ocurred, then we know not to play that number set; go find another one.

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                  Interesting. Can you provide the decimal chart and how it goes along with 39 numbers?

                  Please set some samples with actual results to get the full idea. Let me know how I can help.

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                    Interesting. Can you provide the decimal chart and how it goes along with 39 numbers?

                    Please set some samples with actual results to get the full idea. Let me know how I can help.

                    The best I can do is provide some insight.

                    Right now we have three patterns.  That is not enough.  We will need about 12 such patterns. 

                    Even with 12 patterns I have found that the winning binary to decimal number has anywhere from 80 to 700 possibilities.  Once there was 2500 possibilities. 

                    The problem lies in the patterns.  Most that I have found result in a fifty-fifty ratio of zeros to ones.   What would be ideal is a pattern that results in a 70-30 ratio.  Either 70% zeros or 70% ones.  It makes no difference.

                    We need those kind of patterns.  Your Cold Numbers and the Base Numbers might give that lopsided ratio; I don't know.  I haven't been tracking Tennessee's Pick 5 numbers that way.

                    I would be more than willing to do the VBA programming which would incorporate any patterns we can imagine.  I would also be willing to share this program with any and all LP members that contribute meaningfully to this thread, that contribute to the patterns we need.  That is why I asked if you possessed a copy of Excel.

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                      Yes, I have a copy of Excel.

                      You can create the layout and myself and other willing members can help track it.

                      Let's win pick 5! Stretch

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                        The best I can do is provide some insight.

                        Right now we have three patterns.  That is not enough.  We will need about 12 such patterns. 

                        Even with 12 patterns I have found that the winning binary to decimal number has anywhere from 80 to 700 possibilities.  Once there was 2500 possibilities. 

                        The problem lies in the patterns.  Most that I have found result in a fifty-fifty ratio of zeros to ones.   What would be ideal is a pattern that results in a 70-30 ratio.  Either 70% zeros or 70% ones.  It makes no difference.

                        We need those kind of patterns.  Your Cold Numbers and the Base Numbers might give that lopsided ratio; I don't know.  I haven't been tracking Tennessee's Pick 5 numbers that way.

                        I would be more than willing to do the VBA programming which would incorporate any patterns we can imagine.  I would also be willing to share this program with any and all LP members that contribute meaningfully to this thread, that contribute to the patterns we need.  That is why I asked if you possessed a copy of Excel.

                        The performance ratio can be shifted by changing (among other things) how 'cold' and 'base' numbers are defined. Lurking

                        80 to 700~2,500 is quite a range. Did you get many 3/5 & 4/5 matches along with your 5/5?

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                          I found Diamondpalace's defintion of cold number a whole lot better than what I was using.  That is why I jumped into this thread. 

                          I think I need to change most of my patterns.  I am hoping this thread provides the insight needed to find the right definition for the right pattern.

                          I never even had a thought about base numbers.  I am glad the idea was re-posted. 

                          So join in time*treat and give us what you can.  We need new patterns with newer defintions.

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                            Very good thread. I follow the Fla Fantasy also, and used the standard filters, Sums, Adjacent,O/E, Lastd Digit Sum. This is what I show for Fla using last 10 draws. As you can see there aren't too many cold number hits. I use 0 as cold, 1-2 average, 3+ hot.

                             

                             

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                              Carbob, welcome to the thread. I have not looked at other states pick 5 games to know if cold fusion applied. Nevertheless, we have one adgenda, it is to WIN! With your chart here shows good tracking of the history. How do you use it to determind what may come up next?