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Faith and the Lottery leads to my Farewell.

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Posted: October 16, 2008, 12:34 am - IP Logged

There is nothing wrong with playing the lottery within your means.  If you have let what you spend on anything get out of control, then yes you need to stop cold turkey. 

The lottery is a recreation that provides hope in the future.  That ticket in your pocket could be the way out of all your financal problems for the cost of a single well played dollar per draw.  If god wanted you to win, how else would you want the money sent to you, by a loved one dying?

If a religion is telling you lottery is a sin, no way no how!!!  Gambling is only a sin when it comes before your obligations, not after.

Don't let the nonsense on tv sway your thinking.  Before the depression was able to grind the economy to a halt because the flow of money stopped.  Today billions of dollars flow out every month in social security payments, disability payments, etc.  keeping the pump primed. 

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    Bob, You couldn't have said it any better!!

    religion and government don't go together

    but walk around your local courthouse

    keep an eye out and you'll see different.

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      Posted: October 16, 2008, 2:35 pm - IP Logged

      There is nothing wrong with playing the lottery within your means.  If you have let what you spend on anything get out of control, then yes you need to stop cold turkey. 

      The lottery is a recreation that provides hope in the future.  That ticket in your pocket could be the way out of all your financal problems for the cost of a single well played dollar per draw.  If god wanted you to win, how else would you want the money sent to you, by a loved one dying?

      If a religion is telling you lottery is a sin, no way no how!!!  Gambling is only a sin when it comes before your obligations, not after.

      Don't let the nonsense on tv sway your thinking.  Before the depression was able to grind the economy to a halt because the flow of money stopped.  Today billions of dollars flow out every month in social security payments, disability payments, etc.  keeping the pump primed. 

      BobP

       

      I Agree!

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        Posted: October 20, 2008, 9:50 pm - IP Logged

        Most churches  will pray and still take money from lottrey winner. Pc nut if you believe that your faith do not encourage you to play the lottrey you should have never play the lottrey to begin with.  Lottrey is not your friend is just a game. Best wishes to you.   

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          Posted: October 21, 2008, 10:42 am - IP Logged

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          i just always feel so terribly sad for those that allow their church to dictate something as simple as playing the lottery - where it was NEVER spoken of in the bible, rather men has dissected and interpreted what god must have meant, possibly because of their own addictions - i believe it would have been touched on if it was a 'sin' - yet these same churches continue with their church raffles and bingo games .. what can you do? oh well, hope all you christians finally find 'peace' and rest by no longer gambling [even if it's $1 that will be part of the educational program for your area] i doubt it but whatever keeps you sane right?


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            Posted: October 21, 2008, 11:12 am - IP Logged

            pcnut,you will be missed,by us who have gone through th same things you're going through,but sense it as part of life,testing us,and how we respond.i think lottery is an escape just like sports,activities,movies,etc.a lot of us are in search of answers,such as what will duplicating the big bang show us.take care.

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              Posted: October 21, 2008, 1:56 pm - IP Logged

              I see it this way pcnut! God made this earth and put us on it. I have yet to see the bible say we have to worship God in a brick and mortar building! Where does it say we as Gods children have to tithe our hard earned money to some preacher in that building? Why have we been conditioned to believe that the man of the cloth knows what's best for us? Who knows why it's been that way for centuries, but it doesn't have to be that way any-longer if we don't want it to be.

              All that's needed for us as humans to worship our God in our own way, is to be able to do it without outside interference of any kind! And that means without some person in some sort of costume parading around in a brick and mortar building quoting words from a book and demanding money for such services!

              I worship God and Jesus Christ everyday, everywhere I go on this earth! And how is that you may ask? It's because I believe with all of my heart in God and his only begotten son Jesus Christ that gave his life for me and my sins so I may go to heaven as long as I believe in him.

              Remember this people of all faiths; As long as you believe with all of your heart in God and Jesus Christ, you are worshiping them at all times! "God made this universe and the earth we live on, just for us, his children". And that's how I worship and live in Gods house 24/7, 365 days a year and no body is going to tell me any differently! 

              I honestly don't believe that anyone needs to go to a brick and mortar building to show/prove their faith.

              Keep dreaming the impossible dream, it just may come true! Thumbs Up

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                Posted: October 21, 2008, 2:10 pm - IP Logged

                I have come to a realization, with my much enjoyed interests in finding, researching, or participating in the lottery in any form, such as personal gambling or helping others with the 3 Pair Strategy Forecast, has now put me in conflict with myself in becoming a reborn Christian. Things are changing so rapidly in our world, now in crisis, such as U.S.  banking and overseas conflicts, one has to wonder, is it time. In my heart, I feel the answer is yes.

                I'm just wondering, I'm I the only one, or are there others who may have a change in their feelings, just here recently, with the knowledge of knowing that any participation in the lottery, (helping or participating) is a conflict with one's faith?

                With my dad's recent death, my mother fight with re-occurring cancer and a world in worsening conflict. This has certainly been an eye opener with the convictions of my faith.

                With that said, I bid a fond heartfelt farewell to my LP family, Thank you for all the support you have proved me and my family.

                I wish you well and a blessed future.

                CBR

                pcnut

                It's what you feel in your heart that matters most and with that said, you must do what you feel is right. I am happy for you, but I will miss your post. Stay blessed and GOD speed!!

                 Angel Glitter 

                I am a money magnet. 

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                  Posted: October 21, 2008, 2:24 pm - IP Logged

                  yeah,sometimes when i get at a low point,i question my religion,like where did god come from,where was he/she before the earth was made,so many unanserwed questions.magma think tank i agree with you politically,it's time for the 250,000 dollar/year to belly up to the bar,and pay the fiddler,as when times get tough economically,the rich hoard their money,no trickle down,as we've seen.

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                    Posted: October 21, 2008, 2:46 pm - IP Logged

                    It's what you feel in your heart that matters most and with that said, you must do what you feel is right. I am happy for you, but I will miss your post. Stay blessed and GOD speed!!

                     Angel Glitter 

                    Pcnut,

                    I echo the words of NBey6 above which  was presented so perfectly! 

                    You do have to follow the promptings of the Holy Spirit in matters of the heart and where Jesus Christ is concerned.  I do feel many people in this world are going through what you are experiencing in making decisions regarding their lives and their habits, whether it is gambling, overeating, drugs, adultery, and the list goes on.   Only the person involved knows where God is directing them.  Perhaps your message was meant for me today.  I was sitting here contemplating and going through our finances to see if hubby and I could go to the casino to celebrate our wedding anniversary!!!   However, if we pull money out of our accounts and don't win, we're going to have a poor start on our next month's budget.  We're already stressed enough just paying our school taxes this month!  We just can't afford to lose the kind of money we enjoy playing at the casino.  We were fortunate enough in Feb to hit for 5K in the lottery and pay our taxes then.  However, that doesn't mean the lottery is the source of our supply and will always be there to help us.    You perhaps stopped me (I want to go more than he does lol) from suffering a loss.   God works in mysterious ways for sure.  I'm going to go and read now instead of going to the casino!  I must pay the snowman and call the garage door people to unstick our door!!!  Money well spent for sure.

                    Continue seeking God's approval for your decisions and not rely on the opinions of men.  We as people can give you our advice/counsel, but you're asking for many many opinions here and confusion will arise.   I go to the Rock of my Salvation when I have problems that I can't solve and He knows my weaknesses and my desires.   I have to leave it in His hands and trust Him for the direction and the courage to follow the path He wants me to go to. 

                    I love numbers!  Always have and accounting is my forte as well.  Playing the lottery is fun to me.  Of course I would be lying if I said I don't care if I win or not, cause I have bills like everyone else!  However, my belief is moderation is the key.  Then again it may not be biblical.  I know Christ knows where my heart is and what I will do if I am blessed with $.  I do believe He can bless me and has blessed me in any way that He chooses unless I am perpetuating a crime.   

                    God bless and by all means "follow your heart" like NBey says.   

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                      Posted: October 21, 2008, 2:58 pm - IP Logged

                      very good 345,we expect some snow tomorrow.also we love to go to nj,see our grand daughter,and visit the casinos,after saving a little extra for 3 months.i think we all should be educated,even if no jobs except at jiffy stops here.that's one of the few things about obama,is the education property taxes might go up some.


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                        I have come to a realization, with my much enjoyed interests in finding, researching, or participating in the lottery in any form, such as personal gambling or helping others with the 3 Pair Strategy Forecast, has now put me in conflict with myself in becoming a reborn Christian. Things are changing so rapidly in our world, now in crisis, such as U.S.  banking and overseas conflicts, one has to wonder, is it time. In my heart, I feel the answer is yes.

                        I'm just wondering, I'm I the only one, or are there others who may have a change in their feelings, just here recently, with the knowledge of knowing that any participation in the lottery, (helping or participating) is a conflict with one's faith?

                        With my dad's recent death, my mother fight with re-occurring cancer and a world in worsening conflict. This has certainly been an eye opener with the convictions of my faith.

                        With that said, I bid a fond heartfelt farewell to my LP family, Thank you for all the support you have proved me and my family.

                        I wish you well and a blessed future.

                        CBR

                        pcnut

                        Sorry about your dad, and hope your mom will get better soon. 

                        It does seem like a cruel world sometimes. But there is no room for failure. The best part about being a human being is that most of us fight back when we're cornered by all the forces around us. And when we look back and see how we won once again after a good fight, it's a good feeling.

                        The one thing that keeps me going on confidently is this................................That I'm still standing.

                        Only you know what's best, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

                        Like the rock group "Police" wrote in a song once. The line was......"When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around."

                        We can't change our world, but we can refine our lives to fit.

                        Best wishes to your new found wealth of wisdom and prudence. 

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbirjVeI_Pk

                        Below....when the world is running down....by the police...

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyOghZum-Io

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                          Posted: October 24, 2008, 6:10 pm - IP Logged

                          we>>I respect ur decision

                          butttt,>remember>"UR"!!

                          that "SPECIAL PERSON"!!!

                          >remember> {someone LUV's >>>UUUUU}!

                          YOY HAVE DONE NOTHING"$$$$$$$ WRONG my FRIEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                          YOY HAVE DONE NOTHING"$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$"<<WRONG>>!!!

                          PSYKOMO

                          THANK-YOU>>>>>>FRIEND 4-ALL UR post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                          LIFE must be like the mustard seed...................

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                          life must be like the lottery..........................................

                          life must be created by a WINNER>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

                          LIFE MUST be FAITH in a HIGHER POWER>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

                          FREEDOM to choise is OUR BEST CHANCE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

                          translation:

                          if UR reading this post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                          U MUST still be free 2 READ!!!!!!!!!!!

                          U MUST still be free 2 choose!!!!!!!!!

                          CNN took ted turner DOWN 2 DE DEEP 6 !

                          KEEP UR BOAT>>>>>>>>AFOLTING!!

                          LOL

                          psykomo

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                            Posted: October 24, 2008, 6:39 pm - IP Logged

                            THANK-YOU>>>>>>FRIEND 4-ALL UR post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                            LIFE must be like the mustard seed...................

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                            life must be like the lottery..........................................

                            life must be created by a WINNER>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

                            LIFE MUST be FAITH in a HIGHER POWER>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

                            FREEDOM to choise is OUR BEST CHANCE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

                            translation:

                            if UR reading this post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                            U MUST still be free 2 READ!!!!!!!!!!!

                            U MUST still be free 2 choose!!!!!!!!!

                            CNN took ted turner DOWN 2 DE DEEP 6 !

                            KEEP UR BOAT>>>>>>>>AFOLTING!!

                            LOL

                            psykomo

                            Dear Friend in FAITH:

                            My friend Ted will never give-up!

                            I said he was in New Orlean's>>>!

                            that was several month's ago & even most

                            of his staff never know's where TED>>>>IS!

                            TED love's (PEOPLE)>>>>> TED love's U2 &

                            TED does play JACKPOT>>> game'$$$$$$$$$$$

                            stop in @ MONTANNAA>>>>GRILL>>>>

                            $@@N>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

                            psykomo


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                              Posted: October 25, 2008, 6:15 am - IP Logged

                              Good luck for your future life. See Ya! you are doing what's right for you, we can only respect that and wish you well :)

                              "Depend on the rabbit's foot if you will, but remember it didn't work for the rabbit." - R. E. Shay.